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Originally Posted by aww-shiet
wow dude, i never said anything to you, now your saying like you know everything. at one point in my life, i learn everything. that point hasnt reached its time. so when i say what i THINK is best, then people correct me and we all move on. but your like one of the few that just go back and push people around because they said something stupid.
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Seriously no offense was intended. You are saying it was your opinion, but let me put it back into perspective for you and hopefully put this issue to rest.
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ahh your wrong. a turbo will kill a auto tranny. why do you think most supercharged cars are auto except the cobalt. because autos have traction control, manuals dont. a turbo is good for a manual, because it takes time to spool up turbos so you dont have a jumpy car off the line. all gtp pontiacs are auto and supercharged and are really fast.
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You presented all that as fact. Nowhere did you add that any of that was simply a thought that you had. Obviously my problem is that you said that I was wrong about turbocharging being excellent for automatics...but you had no legitimate reason to say such a thing. How is that even a little helpful to anyone? You were corrected, then we all moved on, and then you chimed back in after we've already moved past the fact that you didn't really know what you were talking about on this subject.
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i know RLs man, owned one. so when i say the engine bay is too crowded and rear end turbos are better (because there is little room for a s/c) that means i know its not going to work.
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I'm not saying you don't know anything, but I am saying you shouldn't offer your opinions without making it obvious that they are just that. I've been all over my 2004 3.5RL today. I have decided it would be possible to route the plumbing so as to put the turbo itself where the airbox is. PERSONALLY I've done a similarly laid out single turbo install on a '95 Mustang 5.0 and it worked out just fine.
Here is the kit itself. Of course it had to be modified to fit the different bodystyle, but it was pretty straightforward.
FOR THE RL (My answer to the rear-mounted turbo)
I would pull air from the fenderwell, compressed air outlet straight down through the sheetmetal to the intercooler, mounted behind the lower grille. I'd flip over the TCS throttle body if fitted and intake intercooled air from the driver's side. I would mount the external wastegate on the crossover pipe and dump towards the drivers side. Turbine inlet doglegged from factory manifolds forward, Turbine outlet 90 degrees out and down in front of accessories and back, maybe a little clearancing would be needed, but then route exhaust through the factory Y-pipe location back. No oil pump needed. No exposure of sensitive parts to the underside of the car and road hazards. Virtually zero chance of water entering the turbo inlet.
My suggestions aren't limited to "Do this it is the best/only way." Even if they were, there would be a solid reason for offering such a statement.
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a rear end turbo will be the best for a legend. using a bigger turbo, piping isnt a problem. theres no lag.
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The rear end turbo is not BEST for anything, but I've said that is my opinion. Sadly, this is where I must tell you again that you are wrong. Using a bigger turbo means MORE lag, not less, let alone none at all. This is due to the increased rotational mass (inertia of a physically larger i.e. heavier turbine/compressor wheels), a larger turbine housing (higher peak flow but reduced boost response due to the larger cross sectional area), or a higher flowing/clipped turbine wheel (trading total flow for 'leverage' against turbine vanes). Compressor housings alone have little effect of spool time.
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buddy im not flipping off at you, but i dont have time for research. other people do, i dont.
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This isn't about me being angry or upset at you at all. This is about presenting honest and complete information. If you don't have time for research, then maybe you should reconsider posting about stuff you haven't had time to learn yet. Take that time to research. You could find some information in that 30 seconds that is worth sharing and then you might decide when you find the extra time to write a well thought-out post and really help somebody.
This was never personal for me. This is the internet, the most impersonal backwards social vacuum ever created, where a nobody can be a real somebody, and a real somebody might not even know how to check their email. I truly believe that and yet I'm still here.
GSM