Car 1: 92/95Legends, 88/89 CRXs
Car 2: 91 civic, 90 Integra
Car 3: 71T-bird, 95Explorer
iTrader Score: 6 reviews
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Originally Posted by dog2525
lol, first of all, somehow vtec didn't wanna work for me. It needed a new solenoid. Plus my brother wanted to buy it off of me. He got a 99 si with no head. and third, had a stock ls head that had no home. So everyone is happy. I will miss the torque though. Saving up for a real vtec swap.
Whats the difference between a 1.8 gsr head/vtec and a full vtec/swap? I thought it was the same? I also see there is a 1.7L i didnt even know about. I had no idea Honda had made so many completely damn different 1.5-2.2L engines. Which series rotates counter clockwise?
Bad news for me. I was test fitting the civic alternator and it doesnt work. Its very close but the pulley would have to be shimmed. I guess ill grab that alternator from the yard if its still there. I had already taken the transmission, and I had to drop the engine after that to get the intake off, so someone may have grabbed it since it was so easy to remove now.
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the non vtec motors have longer stroke. They get a bit of more torque.(lower redline though) If you do it right, a lsvtec has the power of vtec and torque of the ls block. the 1.7l was the 92-93 integra gsr.(rare) 94-01 gsr is 1.8l. The K series rotates the other way.
Car 1: 92/95Legends, 88/89 CRXs
Car 2: 91 civic, 90 Integra
Car 3: 71T-bird, 95Explorer
iTrader Score: 6 reviews
Yay! I was awake during some good daylight hours so i worked on the car a little bit. Heres the view from my door first thing in the morning. I find it glorious.
I work on the engine and trans in my parents garage, because mine is not attached to the house, and gets cold. Its to the far right of the above photo. I've decided that rather than bring the engine and tranny to my house, Ill just finish everything else and then tow the civic to my parents house with my explorer.
Heres a pic of the car in full redneck mode. Its not 100% redneck because its on jackstands instead of cinderblocks, but its still in the frontyard.
Heres a pic of the old rear springs/shocks
and heres all 4 springs/shocks after i put on the $50 lowering kit I got. It makes them coilovers. The ride is harsher than a true coilover because the damping of the shock is not adjusted with the raising/lowering, but the stocks were completely shot anyways, so $50 to be able to adjust ride height is less ghetto than usual.
Heres what it looks like after install:
Next, I decided to go ahead and run my new tranny and ECU wiring. I found a good plug on the passenger firewall and found it made great access. I still need to get a grommet for it though. I also mounted one of the new control boxes I have to use on the passenger shock tower. Its probably not its final resting place but it works for now. I also taped up the harnesses in different colors to make it easier for later.
Heres the wires inside the cabin. The big white plug on the left is one of the ECU plugs, the wires are from the new ECU->engine wiring, and the legend style obd1 plug hanging in the top right is the tranny harness wiring that will go to the TCU.
Heres the wires starting to get spliced to the ECU. I got mostly done and realized I would need some more ECU pins so i went to the junkyard to get them and grabbed some parts for some people.
I actually finished it up when I got back, but the lighting was such that a picture was not possible.
__________________ Fixing legends is easier than fixing lolcats, but the parts are way more expensive
Car 1: 92/95Legends, 88/89 CRXs
Car 2: 91 civic, 90 Integra
Car 3: 71T-bird, 95Explorer
iTrader Score: 6 reviews
Honestly, thats why I put up with Knoxville. Its the only decent sized/ fairly big city I know of that is entirely sprawling. Everyone has a good yard, but its not rural. There is still a Walmart and a mall every 5-7 miles.. NYTIMES calls it the laziest city in the US.
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Honestly, thats why I put up with Knoxville. Its the only decent sized/ fairly big city I know of that is entirely sprawling. Everyone has a good yard, but its not rural. There is still a Walmart and a mall every 5-7 miles.. NYTIMES calls it the laziest city in the US.
lol. nice. If I had so much space, it would be filled with cars.
Car 1: 92/95Legends, 88/89 CRXs
Car 2: 91 civic, 90 Integra
Car 3: 71T-bird, 95Explorer
iTrader Score: 6 reviews
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Originally Posted by Telion
looks like some good progress, I have a question though, how come you didn't go with the OBD1 ECU?
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A few reasons. First, I actually am able to get way more help here than on any honda/integra site. The minute i say "Auto" i've committed blasphemy and the flames begin. I never really got a reason to use OBD1 over OBD0
second, my car is OBD0, and the ECU wires already don't actually match up. I finished changing/splicing ECU wires last night, and I had to add 5 or 6 other wires to engine bay that I wasnt aware of yet. FPR cutoff, EGR lift, EGR solenoid, fast idle solenoid,etc etc
Since i redid the harnesses, I am at just over 500m of wire used. Thats 1/3 of a mile hehe
finally, I took the old OBD0 civic ECU, and took it apart. Then i desoldered the Connectors from the board, and im in the process of soldering up OBD1 terminals to the old connectors. Basically making my own OBD1 conversion harness.
Ive probably put close to 50 hours in the wiring of this car when you count the heat shrinking and ohm testing of every wire. There will be no open circuits causing crazy drivability problems.
On the negative side, The Acura OBD0 ECU did not line up with the civic OBD0 threads that hold the ecu to the car. They do match up but it puts the connector on the wrong side, near the door instead of near the center. So i had to cut off two of them last night so it would fit.
__________________ Fixing legends is easier than fixing lolcats, but the parts are way more expensive
Car 1: 92/95Legends, 88/89 CRXs
Car 2: 91 civic, 90 Integra
Car 3: 71T-bird, 95Explorer
iTrader Score: 6 reviews
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Originally Posted by dog2525
The reason i don't like auto is because of the wires egr, and this extra crap. But props to you for doing this.
Thanks. I had 3 reasons for going auto really. 1. To piss off normal honda guys 2. there werent already a million builds to copy so i had to learn it. I just wanted to learn Hondas for cheap. Ive come a long way in 4 pages of thread from not even knowing what engines would fit, luckily you and businessman gave me enough info to get started. this one is miserly- 3. it was A LOT cheaper to buy an auto trans and ecu and tcu then shell out for the freakin clutch for the Integra.
Heres my update, and some Zany ideas ive been having lately but they may be from lack of sleep and in poor taste. I need opinions on this Ill probaby have to ask it again since im burying it here
Heres the car, finished the suspension and bakes, didnt really lower it to much because the eingine and tranny will cause it to sink a lot, so im waiting. Also finished the wiring and such and its all ready to drag to my parents house.
Soooo Im starting to think I want to weld shut the back doors and shave the handles and fill in the gaps. Make it a two door. Then put nice seats in the front as the back seat folds down to the trunk. Kinda like making it a redneck prelude if you will. Or like a Mini Ka8 Is this a terrible Idea or kind of a neat one?
Heres the harness from the gear selector switch. Rather than cut into wires i just tinned the new wires with a bit of solder than pushed them into the solder points actually showing on the switch. Then I put liquid tape over it all.
As I mentioned earlier I ran into some problems when I switched the ECU and having to add a bunch of new wires for FPR cutoff EGR lift Fast Idle etc etc.
Heres the finished ECU. its a freaking mess but im not gonna tie it up all nice until im sure everything is working. I kept using different tape to run harnesses as not to get confused. Now there is a green blue an yellow harness runninth through that hole and if I have to run any more wires im going to have to drill another one.
Then finally It was time time to plug the TCU in. It felt nice to get to just plug in a bunch of connectors instead of having to wire. I do still have to mount the ground wire but i havent decided on final placement yet. Heres two pics of the whole thing.
So finally, time to drop in a motor.
__________________ Fixing legends is easier than fixing lolcats, but the parts are way more expensive
Car 1: 92/95Legends, 88/89 CRXs
Car 2: 91 civic, 90 Integra
Car 3: 71T-bird, 95Explorer
iTrader Score: 6 reviews
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Originally Posted by sap
Heh, the console is great! All things told the ECU isn't too bad.
As funny as I think turning it into a coupe would be, what you really need to do is to weld the front and rear doors into hella-long front doors!
I also think this car is screaming for a junkyard turbo job
Hah I thought about just welding all the doors shut and taking the glass out.. Then it would be General Lee- Dukes of Hazard style..
Oh the junkyard turbo is definitely the first thing on my list. I gotta figure out what stock factory turbos from Saabs Volvos and Eclipses will be a good fit/size for this application. I love going to the junkyard and just walking around through 2000 cars taking what I like.. Its like a big easter egg hunt.
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looks good man. Crazy wire stuff you got there. Hope everything works good. I would never go through so much wires and be successful. I say you want a legend, get a legend, keep the civic a civic. It would look to funny. Love the center console idea, though.
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Saving up for a real vtec swap.
I also see there is a 1.7L i didnt even know about. I had no idea Honda had made so many completely damn different 1.5-2.2L engines. Which series rotates counter clockwise?
Fixing legends is easier than fixing lolcats, but the parts are way more expensive
Is this a terrible Idea or kind of a neat one?
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