3.2 VS 3.5!! - Page 4

Forevralegend · 10-23-07, 05:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Dv8

My EMS pwns you!

Telion was experiencing snapping bolts too.

Power falls off before 7k anyway. N/A better springs aren't really needed and eric's dynos prove that.

better safe then sorry, especially since with cams i was very veryyyy near coil bind

sr5guy · 10-23-07, 06:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dv8

My EMS pwns you!

Telion was experiencing snapping bolts too.

Power falls off before 7k anyway. N/A better springs aren't really needed and eric's dynos prove that.

About all your EMS is good for ......drum roll....... is your ego

Speaking of.....

Where's hotlavaflow's turbo EMS cal file??? Details on setup? Did he pay someone to do it for him or something?

-Matt

*Dv8* · 10-23-07, 07:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Forevralegend

better safe then sorry, especially since with cams i was very veryyyy near coil bind

True for 3.2, 3.5's don't ever expect to rev that high. I will certainly make sure to check my springs for bind during the rebuild.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bob Marley

About all your EMS is good for ......drum roll....... is your ego

Speaking of.....

Where's hotlavaflow's turbo EMS cal file??? Details on setup? Did he pay someone to do it for him or something?

-Matt

Well we all know about my ego and the ems compliments it quite divine.

Look in the photo gallery for hotlava's setup. His EMS isn't fully tuned on the new kit so theres nothing to share.

~Dv8

BUZZARD · 10-23-07, 11:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Bob Marley

The stock 91-92 automatic type I pulley weighs in at 5 1/2lbs, the question in my head is what horsepower gain does the labrat crank pulley have over using the lighter OEM one.

I would like to see an expert comment on what the suggested upper RPM limits would be for the 3.5 heads.

-Matt

The lightweight pulleys give a power gain on an accelerating engine. At steady rpm they give no power gain. (Polar moment of inertia)On a decelerating engine they will show less power. This can be proved by a simple ramp up/ramp down dyno test.

We run the 3.5 heads to 7200 rpm with upgraded springs, solid lifters and solid spacers.

Also for the guys snapping bolts you might want to consider using a vise with aluminum jaws do "bleed down" your lifters. I have probably swapped more cams than anyone and am yet to break a bolt.Also the torque spec is 12nm/22nm. Buy a nice 1/4 drive torque wrench.

Chris

Telion · 10-23-07, 11:26 PM

Yes I do have TII springs and they do make a difference!

thein · 10-24-07, 08:00 PM

so telion do you do a similar stage II stage III and stage IV chip since sr5's not doing it anymore? What affect do the different stages have on mpg? I know a sacrifice needs to be made but I'm sure most will agree I don't want 13 mpg for 8hp.

Forevralegend · 10-24-07, 09:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by thein

so telion do you do a similar stage II stage III and stage IV chip since sr5's not doing it anymore? What affect do the different stages have on mpg? I know a sacrifice needs to be made but I'm sure most will agree I don't want 13 mpg for 8hp.

the chips im using dont effect your mpg, and if it does.. its so minuscule that i can even notice

Telion · 10-25-07, 12:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BUZZARD

The lightweight pulleys give a power gain on an accelerating engine. At steady rpm they give no power gain. (Polar moment of inertia)On a decelerating engine they will show less power. This can be proved by a simple ramp up/ramp down dyno test.

We run the 3.5 heads to 7200 rpm with upgraded springs, solid lifters and solid spacers.

Also for the guys snapping bolts you might want to consider using a vise with aluminum jaws do "bleed down" your lifters. I have probably swapped more cams than anyone and am yet to break a bolt.Also the torque spec is 12nm/22nm. Buy a nice 1/4 drive torque wrench.

Chris

^ and a little lock tight works great and I have been running my car to 7k to see if it can handle that high of a rev limit it has done fine so far. It is not that I want to abuse my car it is that I would prefer to have something go wrong within a mile of my house than on a track. And I think that in the quarter if it is close the further you can make power vs your competitor the greater your odds are of finishing first.

JonnyBlaze · 10-25-07, 01:44 AM

Great work guys! I enjoyed the knowledge.

Telion · 10-25-07, 02:09 AM

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Originally Posted by thein

so telion do you do a similar stage II stage III and stage IV chip since sr5's not doing it anymore? What affect do the different stages have on mpg? I know a sacrifice needs to be made but I'm sure most will agree I don't want 13 mpg for 8hp.

Sorry missed this but PM me I don't want to deviate from the content of this thread.

nyARISTO · 10-25-07, 02:46 PM

great thread extremely helpful...

**B+O** · 10-25-07, 03:16 PM

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Originally Posted by BUZZARD

We run the 3.5 heads to 7200 rpm with upgraded springs, solid lifters and solid spacers.

Also for the guys snapping bolts you might want to consider using a vise with aluminum jaws do "bleed down" your lifters. I have probably swapped more cams than anyone and am yet to break a bolt.Also the torque spec is 12nm/22nm. Buy a nice 1/4 drive torque wrench.

Chris

that's what i was looking for. This is good information

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thein Registered User Join Date: Apr 2002 Posts: 92 iTrader: (0)	so telion do you do a similar stage II stage III and stage IV chip since sr5's not doing it anymore? What affect do the different stages have on mpg? I know a sacrifice needs to be made but I'm sure most will agree I don't want 13 mpg for 8hp.

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