Custom Headgasket - Page 2

soulman · 01-30-05, 11:37 AM

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Also Legends 91-93 in paticular have the internal cooling system do a lot of extra stuff thats not needed, eventually causeing heat to build up in case of an air bubble or loss of coolant. the early 2nd gen legends ran coolant to the oil cooler and DIff of all things.Great idea but, it would build up heat, beacuse it made the system more prone to air pockets or loss of coolant, that heat eventually takes a toll on the composite HG. The new legend engines have it all capped off and the oil pump cooler is removed. same with the RL block. Speaking of excessive, they put a cooler for the power steering.

~TRu Hybrid

So is it OK if I bypassed the oil cooler, the diff cooler and the extra places the coolant goes through ( which like u say is capped off on the latter versions of the c32 ) ? Wouldn;t the diff overheat though?
I guess u guys have a good point, a properly maintained car has no reason to get a BHG.. And when mine does go eventually, I'll get aftermarket ones ( i found a place that sells them for $45 each) and slightly overtorque the head bolts as mike D suggested. I wouldnt mind trying the copper ones DV8 mentioned, 85 bucks per side?

KeithQNguyen · 01-30-05, 02:07 PM

I have a '95 and my HG went.

But then again i have 195k on it and some old lady drove it before me.... I belive the radiator went at 75k according to the acura service records... Any way, like i said before, I wish i owned this car from day one, I suffer from OCD when it comes to preventitive maintenance. --=Keith

BUZZARD · 01-30-05, 03:39 PM

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Originally Posted by sr79labrat

Eventually I will blow my hg then I will have some made...it is only a matter of time until the boost gets to high. Machine shops can make them for us also. If some one sent me a pair- I would have them made in a couple of months and we could prob. get a good price. How much are a factory set?

Thx, K

We use a standard head gasket and o-ring the block. Works for us.

Chris

sr79labrat · 01-31-05, 02:22 PM

Maybe if I get a rebuild I will do that.....dont I need to pull the engine for that though?

Thx, KTW

BUZZARD · 02-01-05, 02:10 AM

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Originally Posted by sr79labrat

Maybe if I get a rebuild I will do that.....dont I need to pull the engine for that though?

Thx, KTW

We have a hand operated cutter that can be used with just the heads off, probably in a legend it would be easier to pull the engine.

Chris

Shaylord · 11-15-05, 11:09 AM

Isnt the RL c35a and c32a us the same head gaskets? I found this online : http://www.scegaskets.com/pdf/pg%2047-51.pdf by SCE Gaskets they have a copper head gasket for the RL this might be an option

lgnd · 11-15-05, 11:42 AM

http://www.ajusa.es/ingles/catalogo/catalogo.htm

LS92Sedan · 11-15-05, 07:15 PM

I've been working with cometic gaskets to get a set of Multi Layer Steel gaskets made, I know several people that have had gaskets made by them with great results. I am replacing a buddies HG on his coupe, I have his car sittin in my driveway, as soon as I get these gaskets I will be posting pictures. I also tried getting some headstuds from ARP, I tried 3 different studs, the threads fit, but the length was too short, so with any luck maybe ARP will make a set that will fit.
http://www.cometic.com/

hotlavaflow · 12-16-05, 09:26 AM

I didn't realize we were back on the aftermarket head gasket issue. It'll be interesting to see how it pans out this time.

Rumnarv · 12-18-05, 12:24 PM

Multi Layer Steel (or MLS) gaskets will work. Most of the Honda 4 cyl use them and they do not blow like the composit gaskets, so I know they will work with the deck design. Just got to have someone to make them. The Mitsubishi Eclipse has torque specs for a standard composit or MLS gasket. the MLS gaskets specs are like 20 to 30 lbs tighter, so if we do have a set made then they will need to be installed with a torque spec similar to the honda 4 cyl w/ an MLS gasket.

Another route that can be taken is to find out where Jasper Engines gets their graphite head gasket that they use when they rebuild a C32A. That company does an amazing job at researching an engines fault and find a way to fix them and make their rebuilds better than OEM. Research their site.

What make them a few steps above the rest is that they give you a 75k 3 year no questions asked nation wide parts and labor warranty. Usually when something happens to one of their motors they just send you a new one.

Shaylord · 01-15-06, 03:27 PM

ls92sedan anything ever happen with the MLS head gaskets?

swift · 01-15-06, 09:05 PM

guys,

C35 gasket looks exactly the same(everything), but the part #s are different..even if they were the same..then they WOULD have same part number through Honda. So i would say the makeup of the gasket has slightly different materials. I used C35 gaskets and over torqued studs by 2lbs each.

PS_ do the 93-95 coupes have a different diff cooler etc....my lines run to the lower part of radiator...just curious. Havent really looked into it.

1_Hot_Legend_LS · 01-15-06, 11:17 PM

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Originally Posted by tnelson

The copper one we have had made have had no success. the only two guys who tried them gave up because they had problems and would not seat properly. No one has tried steel headgaskets, but if you want to get them cut, more power to you.

I have had copper HGs done on both my G1 and my G2. I've had no problem with either one. The problem people may be running into is seating improperly. Copper headgaskets shoul be heated up in boiling water for 5 min before install, this aids in making the gaskets pliable for installation. The copper HGs hold up great on my 91 Sedan. I have had it overheat twice since I installed the new gaskets. Once cause the fans stopped working and the other time because of a crack in the radiator. Still, the headgaskets are holding up!

Soulman: $85 per side is about right for copper HGs. That's what my friend would charge outsiders for them. He only charged me waht it cost for the copper sheets. He used 3 sheets for each side. I guess if you were to use the same kinda term for these gaskets as the Multi Layered Steel gaskets, these would be MLC gaskets. I'd rather use copper than steel because copper disipates heat a lot faster than steel does.

Later!
Lenny

Shaylord · 01-16-06, 02:45 AM

where did u get ur headgasket from?

1_Hot_Legend_LS · 01-16-06, 03:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Shaylord

where did u get ur headgasket from?

My bestfriend owns a machine shop in Cambridge, MA. He made them for me!

01-30-05, 02:07 PM	#17 (permalink)
KeithQNguyen Registered User Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Irvine, CA Posts: 1,915 Car 1: 1995 Black on Black 6 speed LS Coupe iTrader: (0)	I have a '95 and my HG went. But then again i have 195k on it and some old lady drove it before me.... I belive the radiator went at 75k according to the acura service records... Any way, like i said before, I wish i owned this car from day one, I suffer from OCD when it comes to preventitive maintenance. --=Keith __________________ Some of the most beautiful things in nature have been shaped by the wind - The Acura Legend Coupe

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sr79labrat SR79 Labrat Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: CO-Springs Posts: 1,184 Car 1: Acura Legend iTrader: (7)	Maybe if I get a rebuild I will do that.....dont I need to pull the engine for that though? Thx, KTW __________________ Turbo Legend Parts & Project Updates!!! Myspace- http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm...id=246 854652

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hotlavaflow 'hood Garage Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: cough up a lung, where I'm from, Bklyn son Posts: 3,257 Car 1: '91 Twin Turbo 5/6 spd Panda/Type C Car 2: KA24DE-T S13 iTrader: (3)	I didn't realize we were back on the aftermarket head gasket issue. It'll be interesting to see how it pans out this time. __________________ AEM powered Twin Turbo KA7 since Feb'07

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Rumnarv Domesticated Redneck Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Pensacola, Florida Posts: 1,801 Car 1: 2004 TL 6-Speed iTrader: (0)	Multi Layer Steel (or MLS) gaskets will work. Most of the Honda 4 cyl use them and they do not blow like the composit gaskets, so I know they will work with the deck design. Just got to have someone to make them. The Mitsubishi Eclipse has torque specs for a standard composit or MLS gasket. the MLS gaskets specs are like 20 to 30 lbs tighter, so if we do have a set made then they will need to be installed with a torque spec similar to the honda 4 cyl w/ an MLS gasket. Another route that can be taken is to find out where Jasper Engines gets their graphite head gasket that they use when they rebuild a C32A. That company does an amazing job at researching an engines fault and find a way to fix them and make their rebuilds better than OEM. Research their site. What make them a few steps above the rest is that they give you a 75k 3 year no questions asked nation wide parts and labor warranty. Usually when something happens to one of their motors they just send you a new one. __________________ No Mods

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11-15-05, 11:09 AM	#21 (permalink)
Shaylord Fre OG Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Claremont, New Hampshire Posts: 1,301 Car 1: 1994 LS Coupe Dark green iTrader: (3)	Isnt the RL c35a and c32a us the same head gaskets? I found this online : http://www.scegaskets.com/pdf/pg%2047-51.pdf by SCE Gaskets they have a copper head gasket for the RL this might be an option

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LS92Sedan Registered User Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Brew City Posts: 1,789 Car 1: 94 L Sedan Canterbury Green Car 2: 94 L Sedan White Car 3: (RIP) 92 L Sedan iTrader: (0)	I've been working with cometic gaskets to get a set of Multi Layer Steel gaskets made, I know several people that have had gaskets made by them with great results. I am replacing a buddies HG on his coupe, I have his car sittin in my driveway, as soon as I get these gaskets I will be posting pictures. I also tried getting some headstuds from ARP, I tried 3 different studs, the threads fit, but the length was too short, so with any luck maybe ARP will make a set that will fit. http://www.cometic.com/

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swift Banned Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Northern,WI/Chicago,IL Posts: 4,291 Car 1: 92' legend coupe 5spd Car 2: 94' coupe auto Car 3: 91' Smacura iTrader: (8)	guys, C35 gasket looks exactly the same(everything), but the part #s are different..even if they were the same..then they WOULD have same part number through Honda. So i would say the makeup of the gasket has slightly different materials. I used C35 gaskets and over torqued studs by 2lbs each. PS_ do the 93-95 coupes have a different diff cooler etc....my lines run to the lower part of radiator...just curious. Havent really looked into it.

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