DIY: 3.2L to 3.5L engine swap (+ Type II Swap, Hybrid, and JDM Information) - Page 12

djcarbon93 · 05-11-09, 06:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Socol

No, you don't see what I mean. I'll say it again: First look into the difference between wheel horse power (WHP) and crank horse power.

OH! lmao, nah i actually did know what you meant but i didnt think about it right, wasnt thinking straight. sorry guys my fault. thanks for explaining it.

weezleberger · 06-13-09, 01:57 AM

I am going to do this swap but I am curious how the motor mount needs to be modded for a 94-95....The only info on this thread pertains to 91-93. Anyone have info/pictures for a mount for the 94-95? Anyone have one for sale possibly?

DIABLO NEGRO · 08-12-09, 12:18 AM

my wife wants me to get rid of my legend but I want to do the 3.5 swap... this car has been sitting for about a year and a half.... so I am gonna do the swap!! ne1 use the craig moates set up to tune the ECM??

sap · 08-12-09, 01:40 AM

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Originally Posted by DIABLO NEGRO

my wife wants me to get rid of my legend but I want to do the 3.5 swap... this car has been sitting for about a year and a half.... so I am gonna do the swap!! ne1 use the craig moates set up to tune the ECM??

You can use the moates burner to burn chips, but you'd need to socket the ECU to be able to change chips. I don't think anyone's tried an ostrich or anything yet.

Easiest solution is to get a socketed/chipped ECU from Telion

DIABLO NEGRO · 08-14-09, 12:27 AM

ok ill look into that but I need the mount, how much do they go for ne1 know?

chase103 · 10-05-09, 08:38 AM

im all about the swap, but ive got an auto car and wanna go 6 speed tranny. Havent found a tranny yet, will the TL 6 speed work? I know it can be made to work, but is it a drop in, bolt in, drive off sort of deal. All the shops here want over a grand to do the timing belt/water pump on my 93 legend...and im like hell with it, its got 230g on the ticker anyway, ill just let it go and get an upgraded motor/tranny when its done. and to expand, I have been looking into a turbo setup, have a solution, but how do you guys tune these motors??

Dv8 · 10-06-09, 12:27 PM

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Originally Posted by chase103

will the TL 6 speed work?

but how do you guys tune these motors??

No and Yes.

Look around chase.

~Dv8

killaswa6 · 10-22-09, 05:44 AM

im performing a 3.5 swap but im a little confused with the vacume lines...Do i sue the RL Controll box or the legend controll box. also wud i need to use the solenoids and hoses that come attached to the bracket on the rear of the RL intake Manifold

Thanks for any help and/or input

Talrude · 11-03-09, 10:06 AM

All 3.2L to 3.5L questions to ME are asked and answered. I have not even attempted it yet but just search the fourm using the search feature or Advance search feature and you will find an answer.

L3GDKANG/JDMKANG · 12-10-09, 08:55 PM

bump this up

jonatbaylor · 02-04-10, 06:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Talrude

All 3.2L to 3.5L questions to ME are asked and answered. I have not even attempted it yet but just search the fourm using the search feature or Advance search feature and you will find an answer.

Why even do this swap?

Right now, I have a 1995 Legend Coupe w/Type II motor, 6ps Manual that has 230 HP and 210lb/tq. 1996-2001 RL motors are 210hp/220lbtq. Yeah, they did kick the torgue up a bit, maybe by 20lb by 2002 and added another 15hp...but at least for a straight motor swap I'm not seeing the benefits.

Unless there is something I'm not thinking of?

Quaraxkad · 02-07-10, 03:57 PM

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Originally Posted by jonatbaylor

Why even do this swap?

Right now, I have a 1995 Legend Coupe w/Type II motor, 6ps Manual that has 230 HP and 210lb/tq. 1996-2001 RL motors are 210hp/220lbtq. Yeah, they did kick the torgue up a bit, maybe by 20lb by 2002 and added another 15hp...but at least for a straight motor swap I'm not seeing the benefits.

Unless there is something I'm not thinking of?

Short answer: It's not the peak torque and horsepower that matters, it's the curve.

jonatbaylor · 02-07-10, 05:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Quaraxkad

Short answer: It's not the peak torque and horsepower that matters, it's the curve.

How different can the curves be? I mean, it seems like a ton of work for little improvement. The car isn't going to go from 0-60 or 0-100 any faster, or not noticeably enough for such a small improvement that would cost somewhere between 3-4k dollars.

By the way I'm playing devils advocate here. I was really gung-ho about this swap for a while but after looking at the numbers, I'm not so gung ho anymore.

if I'm getting a jdm low mileage motor and doing all the rewiring and install and stuff, I mind as well put a turbo in the damn thing and spend 4-5k that way and get a lot more results.

what do you think?

Quaraxkad · 02-07-10, 05:13 PM

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Originally Posted by jonatbaylor

what do you think?

I haven't done the swap myself, so I don't have any first-hand experience with the results, but everyone who's done it has been thrilled. Read through some of the build threads on this forum and on the other, you'll see their reactions and opinions on the difference in power.

jonatbaylor · 02-07-10, 06:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Quaraxkad

I haven't done the swap myself, so I don't have any first-hand experience with the results, but everyone who's done it has been thrilled. Read through some of the build threads on this forum and on the other, you'll see their reactions and opinions on the difference in power.

well, I have been doing a lot of that. I have gone through all of the swap posts, the power band posts, the dino's and they aren't impressive from the stock 3.2 vs. the 3.5. In fact they are nominal. I guess I'm looking for more improvement for 2-3k dollars worth of spending.

Now, for example, DV8's power bands and what-not on his nitrous and turbo charged applications, those show improvement and especially the turbo application. His WHP and TQ gains are massive.