DIY: 3.2L to 3.5L engine swap (+ Type II Swap, Hybrid, and JDM Information) - Page 2

whats77inaname · 11-06-06, 12:20 AM

Diaz, have you dyno'ed yet?

Mike Diaz · 11-06-06, 09:50 AM

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Originally Posted by whats77inaname

Diaz, have you dyno'ed yet?

Nope. Not yet. I haven't had time. The car has been sitting in my garage for almost a month now.

emaculate94GS · 11-06-06, 11:38 AM

Great write up mike! Would you say that there is a significant increase in power over the Type II? I am about to swap the Type I for the Type II but have been debating whether or not I should go with the 3.5L. If there is a world of difference than I may try to go with the 3.5L.

Thanks

Mike Diaz · 11-06-06, 11:52 AM

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Originally Posted by emaculate91ls

Great write up mike! Would you say that there is a significant increase in power over the Type II? I am about to swap the Type I for the Type II but have been debating whether or not I should go with the 3.5L. If there is a world of difference than I may try to go with the 3.5L.

Thanks

I would definitely call the power increase significant. Go 3.5 and never look back.

Mike Diaz · 11-07-06, 11:26 AM

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Originally Posted by blkonblkcpe

YESSSSSSS, GB on motor mounts!

Lets hear it!!!!!!

Anybody can get this done. The mount was one of the easiest things to have done.

ATLfoKuS · 11-07-06, 12:29 PM

how much deniro are we talkin about for the whole conversion

Mike Diaz · 11-07-06, 12:59 PM

To DIY, I spent about $1085 just on the engine conversion. That's not including installing a new clutch, slave cylinder, 2 front engine mounts, radiator, and heater hoses.

I spent
$300 on the block with mounts
$300 on the heads and exhaust manifolds
$75 on the intake manifold
$250 on the timing belt, water pump, balance shaft belt, and tb tensioner
$160 on intake manifold gaskets, head gaskets, Intake plenum gaskets, and exhaust manifold gaskets.

That comes out to $1085, but I'm sure there's a bit more in fluids and other small things.

Kenso · 11-07-06, 01:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Mike Diaz

Anybody can get this done. The mount was one of the easiest things to have done.

I wouldn't think so for most of the people here (as far as the mount). Other than the mount, the swap could be done with simple hand tools in a garage.

Mike Diaz · 11-07-06, 01:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Kenso

I wouldn't think so for most of the people here (as far as the mount). Other than the mount, the swap could be done with simple hand tools in a garage.

I'm saying, taking the mounts to a welder and giving him a few of the pictures in this thread and telling him to cut and weld them together. I used Christian's picture and handed it to my welder and he got it done.

Fran · 11-09-06, 09:01 PM

Damn.. This is some good ish! If yous do decide to do a group buy for the mount im in.

Dv8 · 11-10-06, 01:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Fran

Damn.. This is some good ish! If yous do decide to do a group buy for the mount im in.

Maybe Kyles pulley connection can whip a mount up if one is sent off in that direction. I vote Kens mount mines a lot more modified since its inception.

Mike,
careful with the angle of the mounts leg. If it doesnt sit flat on the mount or if its pulling the rubber mount more to one side, the top of the rubber mount will rip off after some time. You'll know when you see the oil thats in the mount on the floor. Mine was not perfect and ripped two rubber mounts. Those are not easy to find in good condition and new ones are 150 each.

It looks like there is some strain on the rubber going south-east direction of the picture. the Leg doesnt seem flat against the mounts top metal surface.

This is my newest rock solid revision.

~Dv8

Mike Diaz · 11-10-06, 08:20 AM

We had to cut the mount again because it wasn't sitting flat the first time. It's definitely flat this time. Those are new mounts, just dirty.

Mike Diaz · 11-14-06, 09:30 PM

I added new links to the first thread.

Kenso · 11-14-06, 11:13 PM

Here's how I made my 3.5 mount, figured I'd share the method I used to help out anyone else planning this swap at a later date. You need both blocks to do this, and both brackets. Probably not practical for most, but might give someone some ideas along the way.

Made a jig from some angle iron. Bolts up along the bottom of the 3.2 block using 2 of the oil pan bolt holes on that side. The holes in the angle iron need to be as precise as possible. If the holes are noticeably bigger than the bolts being used, the excess "play" will make for unreliable results when the jig is transferred to the RL block.

Bolted another piece of angle iron up to the "leg" on the Legend mount bracket. Must be bolted up very securely, if the leg moves around before it is welded back in place, the new mount may not fit correctly. Welded in a couple pieces of angle iron to connect it all.

Once everything is bolted up, cut parallel/flush with the lower bolt hole in the bracket.

Made a cut on the RL bracket in the same location.

Unbolt the jig from the 3.2 block and transfer it and the "leg" from the Legend bracket over to the RL block. Check for proper alignment.

Weld the 2 pieces securely together. Your new custom bracket is complete.

I had the aluminum brackets welded together at a machine shop for $45. Made the angle iron jig with a friend from work who has a mig welder at home (cost=free).

whats77inaname · 11-20-06, 01:12 AM

Mike, RL axles?