Dv8's Legend (Chronicles and Articles) - Page 12

Stratoknight · 12-31-03, 10:01 AM

He told us it was from Spoon. He doesn't back it up though. He just claims to have it. I don't believe him until he can substantiate his claims.

legend4life · 12-31-03, 03:27 PM

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Originally posted by LegendaryPerformance
where can i get a real LSD like spoonLegend's???

I don't know what he had or didn't have but alot of his claims were hard to beleive. However for a real LSD I would contact Quaife about an automatic torque biasing differential (Quaife ATB). http://quaifeamerica.com Maybe they will make one for us, that would be great. Another alternative may be the Race Logic traction control system, found here http://www.racelogic.co.uk/traction.htm . There was just another group buy for it on the Supra Forums, ended today I beleive! You might still be able to get in if you act quick. http://www.supraforums.com/forum/sho...l&pagenumber=1

The Supra guys really love this system...I wonder what would be better for a high hp Legend, an LSD, or the Race Logic Traction control..........obviously both would be best, but that's alot of money.

*Dv8* · 12-31-03, 06:19 PM

A real LSD or not the Phantom grip provides the exact same result with less money. ITs perfect for cars with lower HP such as our legends. the basic Phantom grip is rated at 600lbs of pressure, most stock dif part would rupture at 400.

spend 300 bucks its well worth it, im ripping all over town and most of these rice cars cant belive how i just take off, and when they hear me shifting they think im shifting the auto. Ill be visiting the track soon enough.

~Tru Hybrid

*Dv8* · 12-31-03, 06:51 PM

More......

Well i competed the eletrical. The 5spd ECU seems to be working just fine with the six speeds. Finding certain wires was a pain but as long as i had my trusty service manual and haynes it all worked out.

I still think first gear is a little slugish for what i expected, but second, third and foruth make up for it.

I suspect the heavy dual mass flywheel is the culprit. I didnt want surprizes so i stuck with all original 6spd parts. If i were to do it all over again i would of used a 5spd flywheel and clutch instead, they weighed less and whey bolt up just the same+ i could of had the 5spd flywheel lightened.

I cant wait to have the manual ecu chipped by bayou, it will give more torque to help in 1st gear and even more topened that seems so plentiful already.

track soon i hope.

Questions, concerns?

~TRu Hybrid

**Mike Diaz** · 01-01-04, 12:28 AM

I thought the 5 speed and 6 speed flywheels were totally different. Damn, you could have saved yourself some money by just going with the cheap 5 speed flywheel and clutch setup.

newowner92LS · 01-01-04, 01:00 AM

wouldn't using the five speed ecu give the wrong fuel map for sixth gear, or is it not a big enough difference to be noticable?

ScotcH · 01-01-04, 01:42 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Dv8
A real LSD or not the Phantom grip provides the exact same result with less money. ITs perfect for cars with lower HP such as our legends. the basic Phantom grip is rated at 600lbs of pressure, most stock dif part would rupture at 400.

spend 300 bucks its well worth it, im ripping all over town and most of these rice cars cant belive how i just take off, and when they hear me shifting they think im shifting the auto. Ill be visiting the track soon enough.

~Tru Hybrid

From some reading on racing boards, the Phantom LSD is great for street, and probably good for drag, but cannot stand up in a track race environment (with lot's of turns). Let us know how it performs at the strip ... sounds like a bargin, if it holds up for a couple of years anyway.

Apparently it can shatter your spider gears which were not realy meant to hold constant presure ... this is all second hand info, so take it with a grain of salt!

*Dv8* · 01-01-04, 02:54 AM

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Originally posted by Mike Diaz
I thought the 5 speed and 6 speed flywheels were totally different. Damn, you could have saved yourself some money by just going with the cheap 5 speed flywheel and clutch setup.

They are, but as far as i saw bolt up the same.

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Originally posted by newowner92LS
wouldn't using the five speed ecu give the wrong fuel map for sixth gear, or is it not a big enough difference to be noticable?

I would assume so, but i really dont think its anything to important.

~TRu Hybrid

**B+O** · 01-01-04, 02:59 AM

the ecu doesn't read gears. it reads loads. so in effect it has nothing to do with the transmission. all it does is try to keep the engine running (thats for manual transmissioned cars) auto is a different story since the trans controller is built into the Electronic Control Unit (ECU) or in the case of Automatic cars the "PCU" or Powertrain Control Unit. but it's really not that important.

Octane · 01-01-04, 03:02 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by LEgEnD4LiFe
I don't know what he had or didn't have but alot of his claims were hard to beleive. However for a real LSD I would contact Quaife about an automatic torque biasing differential (Quaife ATB). http://quaifeamerica.com Maybe they will make one for us, that would be great. Another alternative may be the Race Logic traction control system, found here http://www.racelogic.co.uk/traction.htm . There was just another group buy for it on the Supra Forums, ended today I beleive! You might still be able to get in if you act quick. http://www.supraforums.com/forum/sho...l&pagenumber=1

The Supra guys really love this system...I wonder what would be better for a high hp Legend, an LSD, or the Race Logic Traction control..........obviously both would be best, but that's alot of money.

Is this aftermarket traction control better than the oem traction control that came on the newer legends (94/95)??

ScotcH · 01-01-04, 05:26 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Octane
Is this aftermarket traction control better than the oem traction control that came on the newer legends (94/95)??

Well, considering the OEM one is only a throttle blocker, I'd guess it's better. However, unless the ABS gets involved, I don't see a point (I didn't visit the site, so I don't know).

Any traction control kinds sucks except on ice ... on pavement it really just slows you down.

Octane · 01-01-04, 05:35 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by ScotcH
Any traction control kinds sucks except on ice ... on pavement it really just slows you down.

Ahhh, you're just saying that because you're jealous that I have traction control and you don't!!

Don't be a hater!!

Jokes

legend4life · 01-01-04, 03:47 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by ScotcH
Well, considering the OEM one is only a throttle blocker, I'd guess it's better. However, unless the ABS gets involved, I don't see a point (I didn't visit the site, so I don't know).

Any traction control kinds sucks except on ice ... on pavement it really just slows you down.

It's many times better than the OEM tcs system for both bad weather conditions and racing. Actually the Race Logic isn't really a traction control system or only meant for help on ice, water, etc.. It's more of a traction assist system and it's meant to maximize traction in all situations and conditions, including dry pavement, and it is proven to benefit in 1/4 mile, drag, road course, whatever. Read the links in my previous post to the Race Logic website and the thread on Supra Forums for some good info on it.

ScotcH · 01-02-04, 09:08 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Octane
Ahhh, you're just saying that because you're jealous that I have traction control and you don't!!

Don't be a hater!!

Jokes

Except that the joke is on you ... I do have TCS ;-)

SLEEPNL · 01-02-04, 10:27 AM

DV8,

The 901-gold seems designed for a TL or Integra GSR. Were any mods required to fit this unit in your legend or is it a direct fit for Gen II's?

SLEEPNL

12-31-03, 10:01 AM	#166 (permalink)
Stratoknight Yúgí Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Lakewood WA Posts: 1,736 Car 1: 1991 Black Sedan iTrader: (0)	He told us it was from Spoon. He doesn't back it up though. He just claims to have it. I don't believe him until he can substantiate his claims. __________________ Miss Greek in support of Fred Hutching Cancer Research Center University of Washington Delts Stage6 Acura Legend Channel

12-31-03, 06:19 PM	#168 (permalink)
Dv8 Banned Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: CA Posts: 4,870 Car 1: 91' 3.5lt Extreme DV8ED Hybrid 6spd Car 2: 03' G35c Blk on Blk Car 3: 92'Yukon/06'Trailer iTrader: (11)	A real LSD or not the Phantom grip provides the exact same result with less money. ITs perfect for cars with lower HP such as our legends. the basic Phantom grip is rated at 600lbs of pressure, most stock dif part would rupture at 400. spend 300 bucks its well worth it, im ripping all over town and most of these rice cars cant belive how i just take off, and when they hear me shifting they think im shifting the auto. Ill be visiting the track soon enough. ~Tru Hybrid __________________ AEM EMS Powered. 9 yrs and counting. Results, Where are yours? 12.953@107.865MPH 95 deg. Jun. 07' 3.5 6spd-#55 jet Nitrous 316WHP@5500RPM 345Lb-ft@4100RPM NOS 06-07'N/A 234WHP@5700RPM 229lb-ft@4600RPM 06-07' 13.782@99.135MPH N/A 95 deg. Jun 07' 03' G35c Auto Vortech Supercharged pshhhh 311WHP 274WTQ13.1@102MPH-on the brakes(108MPH) Hand fabbed Go-Kart 18whp 24wtq 8 page spread Honda Tuning 09-06' issue PM or Email only. Respect that! My Legends Website www.2slik4u.com

12-31-03, 06:51 PM	#169 (permalink)
Dv8 Banned Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: CA Posts: 4,870 Car 1: 91' 3.5lt Extreme DV8ED Hybrid 6spd Car 2: 03' G35c Blk on Blk Car 3: 92'Yukon/06'Trailer iTrader: (11)	More...... Well i competed the eletrical. The 5spd ECU seems to be working just fine with the six speeds. Finding certain wires was a pain but as long as i had my trusty service manual and haynes it all worked out. I still think first gear is a little slugish for what i expected, but second, third and foruth make up for it. I suspect the heavy dual mass flywheel is the culprit. I didnt want surprizes so i stuck with all original 6spd parts. If i were to do it all over again i would of used a 5spd flywheel and clutch instead, they weighed less and whey bolt up just the same+ i could of had the 5spd flywheel lightened. I cant wait to have the manual ecu chipped by bayou, it will give more torque to help in 1st gear and even more topened that seems so plentiful already. track soon i hope. Questions, concerns? ~TRu Hybrid __________________ AEM EMS Powered. 9 yrs and counting. Results, Where are yours? 12.953@107.865MPH 95 deg. Jun. 07' 3.5 6spd-#55 jet Nitrous 316WHP@5500RPM 345Lb-ft@4100RPM NOS 06-07'N/A 234WHP@5700RPM 229lb-ft@4600RPM 06-07' 13.782@99.135MPH N/A 95 deg. Jun 07' 03' G35c Auto Vortech Supercharged pshhhh 311WHP 274WTQ13.1@102MPH-on the brakes(108MPH) Hand fabbed Go-Kart 18whp 24wtq 8 page spread Honda Tuning 09-06' issue PM or Email only. Respect that! My Legends Website www.2slik4u.com

01-01-04, 12:28 AM	#170 (permalink)
Mike Diaz WHAAAAAH! Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: N Canton, Ohio Posts: 10,986 Car 1: 3.5L 1991 LS Coupe 5 Spd Blk/Blk Car 2: 1994 Civic EG Hatch Car 3: 03 Honda TRX400EX iTrader: (2)	I thought the 5 speed and 6 speed flywheels were totally different. Damn, you could have saved yourself some money by just going with the cheap 5 speed flywheel and clutch setup. __________________ 2nd Gen FAQ \| Newbie FAQ \| Bleeding Coolant DIY \| Manual Trans Flush DIY 3.5L DIY \| Crank-No Start Diagnosis \| How I built My Legend

01-01-04, 01:00 AM	#171 (permalink)
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01-01-04, 02:59 AM	#174 (permalink)
B+O The Mac vs. The Mack Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: VSC Moderator Posts: 12,394 Car 1: why? iTrader: (1)	the ecu doesn't read gears. it reads loads. so in effect it has nothing to do with the transmission. all it does is try to keep the engine running (thats for manual transmissioned cars) auto is a different story since the trans controller is built into the Electronic Control Unit (ECU) or in the case of Automatic cars the "PCU" or Powertrain Control Unit. but it's really not that important. __________________ "Untainted by Concept of Limitation" -BozzSpeed -Reiko my baby -The MAIN person Thank you Leon. Your words help God said it, and it was so. Forum Rules *flossin,* breakin off the intersection crossin RL'in, ackin a iz-ass on them bosses

01-02-04, 10:27 AM	#180 (permalink)
SLEEPNL Registered User Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Maryland Posts: 116 Car 1: 1991 L Coupe / 2000 Dinan 7 iTrader: (0)	DV8, The 901-gold seems designed for a TL or Integra GSR. Were any mods required to fit this unit in your legend or is it a direct fit for Gen II's? SLEEPNL __________________ 1991 Cobalt Blue "SLEEPNL" Legend http://memimage.cardomain.com/member...32_11_full.jpg