DYNO NUMBERS: For the G2 Cpe/Sdn Modded/Unmodded - Page 4

SquaL · 08-21-05, 07:04 PM

Dv8, thanks for the headsup/advice. The guy who did the dyno said something about intake as well, but I was not paying much attention (too shocked by low torque). Exhaust is on the way, intake to be ordered tomorrow, and been in touch with Willie about bayou, which I should have in September. will post new dyno then.

swift · 08-21-05, 07:44 PM

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Originally Posted by SquaL

Dv8, thanks for the headsup/advice. The guy who did the dyno said something about intake as well, but I was not paying much attention (too shocked by low torque). Exhaust is on the way, intake to be ordered tomorrow, and been in touch with Willie about bayou, which I should have in September. will post new dyno then.

Not to burst your bubble. I don't think people deal with willie anymore....

Also since you have a standard tranny.....the chip really does nothing but at more fuel...So just spend $200 less and get a APEXI-SAFC.

just my two cents.

Kenso · 08-21-05, 07:49 PM

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Originally Posted by swift

Not to burst your bubble. I don't think people deal with willie anymore....

Also since you have a standard tranny.....the chip really does nothing but at more fuel...So just spend $200 less and get a APEXI-SAFC.

just my two cents.

The Bayou raises the rev limiter and alters the ignition timing as well.

*Dv8* · 08-22-05, 12:19 PM

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Originally Posted by swift

Not to burst your bubble. I don't think people deal with willie anymore....

Also since you have a standard tranny.....the chip really does nothing but at more fuel...So just spend $200 less and get a APEXI-SAFC.

just my two cents.

The Bayou performance stage 2 ECU for the Acura Legend is one of the highest HP/TQ yeilding mods for the Legend. That alone should make you deal with willy.
If you are into performance for your legend and you dont have it, chances are you're an idiot.

~TRu Hybrid

swift · 08-22-05, 04:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Dv8

The Bayou performance stage 2 ECU for the Acura Legend is one of the highest HP/TQ yeilding mods for the Legend. That alone should make you deal with willy.
If you are into performance for your legend and you dont have it, chances are you're an idiot.

~TRu Hybrid

yeah, but he doesn't really make them for standards....and if he still does, doesn't it just add more fuel to compensate for the intake and exhaust. I know people who have gained 10hp with the apexi....

I know for an auto i would buy one in a heartbeat, but i have heard how willie treats people once and a while.

latta

EDIT----thanks kenso...i dont care about the rev limiter really, but the ignition timing may interest me....but how much does it retard or advance.???

Kenso · 08-22-05, 07:32 PM

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Originally Posted by swift

yeah, but he doesn't really make them for standards....and if he still does, doesn't it just add more fuel to compensate for the intake and exhaust. I know people who have gained 10hp with the apexi....

I know for an auto i would buy one in a heartbeat, but i have heard how willie treats people once and a while.

latta

EDIT----thanks kenso...i dont care about the rev limiter really, but the ignition timing may interest me....but how much does it retard or advance.???

I'm not sure how many degrees the chip advances the timing. I think that the timing alterations have as much to do with the hp/tq gains from the chip as the fueling changes do. BTW, Willie does actually make chips for the 5/6 spds. I got mine from him last summer. It was Got2lovme that only sold auto chips. $400 is a lot, but your next option is dropping 3 times that on an AEM EMS.

swift · 08-23-05, 12:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Kenso

I'm not sure how many degrees the chip advances the timing. I think that the timing alterations have as much to do with the hp/tq gains from the chip as the fueling changes do. BTW, Willie does actually make chips for the 5/6 spds. I got mine from him last summer. It was Got2lovme that only sold auto chips. $400 is a lot, but your next option is dropping 3 times that on an AEM EMS.

thanks kenso....you do have a point there on the AEM.

But if i had $400 i myself would invest in getting another block.My engine isn't worth anymore upgrades and i might as well get another block.

Ps-if you are wondering what this has to do with the chip....if i do get another block....i wont be able to use a stock ECU after i am done with it. hehehe

thanks again for clarifying things guys.

*Dv8* · 08-23-05, 01:56 PM

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Originally Posted by swift

thanks kenso....you do have a point there on the AEM.

But if i had $400 i myself would invest in getting another block.My engine isn't worth anymore upgrades and i might as well get another block.

Ps-if you are wondering what this has to do with the chip....if i do get another block....i wont be able to use a stock ECU after i am done with it. hehehe

thanks again for clarifying things guys.

Swift,
Dude are you brain dead? We have an Acura Tech telling you whats up and you have me telling you. The Bayou is the way to go no matter what mods you do its a nessesity, unless you go full managment. I've delt with Willy on 4 different occations, one was a group buy and he always treated me very well. The last chip i bought he gave me $75 off just because ive bought so many from him in the past. I know the chip is expensive, but so what, I dynoed 7WHP and 7LBFT back in the day with the chip. Worth it? YES. The bayou is the only legend mod that advances timing, along with fuel and air. Like Kenso says the timing degrees is unkown because its their secret. The apexi in no way can yeild over 5WHP in the legend unless it has the bayou because the SAFC doesnt do timing advances. The SAFC is a great fine tuning adjustment tool after all the mods are in place. The last time I had it tuned i gain 3WHP from it, sucks when you can advance the timing more.

Im getting tired of you questioning us; a legend novice questioning the people that know tried and true. The ASP pully for example, sucks balls. However you still continue to argue that it works wonders. I told you to get the before and after dynos to prove it to yourself, you did the after dyno but where's the before dyno? Ask the question, get your answer and leave it at that.

~TRu Hybrid

swift · 08-23-05, 03:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Dv8

Swift,
Dude are you brain dead? We have an Acura Tech telling you whats up and you have me telling you. The Bayou is the way to go no matter what mods you do its a nessesity, unless you go full managment. I've delt with Willy on 4 different occations, one was a group buy and he always treated me very well. The last chip i bought he gave me $75 off just because ive bought so many from him in the past. I know the chip is expensive, but so what, I dynoed 7WHP and 7LBFT back in the day with the chip. Worth it? YES. The bayou is the only legend mod that advances timing, along with fuel and air. Like Kenso says the timing degrees is unkown because its their secret. The apexi in no way can yeild over 5WHP in the legend unless it has the bayou because the SAFC doesnt do timing advances. The SAFC is a great fine tuning adjustment tool after all the mods are in place. The last time I had it tuned i gain 3WHP from it, sucks when you can advance the timing more.

Im getting tired of you questioning us; a legend novice questioning the people that know tried and true. The ASP pully for example, sucks balls. However you still continue to argue that it works wonders. I told you to get the before and after dynos to prove it to yourself, you did the after dyno but where's the before dyno? Ask the question, get your answer and leave it at that.

~TRu Hybrid

whoa dude, calm down christian....reread what i wrote. I thanked you for clarifying what it did exactly. Then stated that if i were to have $400 i would invest it in another block...why, because my oil rings are shot!! And i don't mean dropping in a stock type 1 or type 2....i mean something where i would need autotronic. So unless you can come up with a reason why i should spend $400 on a chip that adds that much to an engine that is burning oil be my pleasure.

Also about the pulley, our cars need torque!! If i lose top end, well i will gain it back. I was going to throw on the old one or the one labrat's making but the two dyno shops i talked to in the chicago area i moved to are charging $60 per run!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I am going to the track in september..to post better times.

latta

Ps- i will always respect you guys in everything you do...

*Dv8* · 08-23-05, 06:37 PM

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Originally Posted by swift

whoa dude, calm down christian....reread what i wrote. I thanked you for clarifying what it did exactly. Then stated that if i were to have $400 i would invest it in another block...why, because my oil rings are shot!! And i don't mean dropping in a stock type 1 or type 2....i mean something where i would need autotronic. So unless you can come up with a reason why i should spend $400 on a chip that adds that much to an engine that is burning oil be my pleasure.

Also about the pulley, our cars need torque!! If i lose top end, well i will gain it back. I was going to throw on the old one or the one labrat's making but the two dyno shops i talked to in the chicago area i moved to are charging $60 per run!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I am going to the track in september..to post better times.

latta

Ps- i will always respect you guys in everything you do...

My point is in respect to engine managment. The bayou is as close as to what your going to get considering the alternative costs thousands more and needs a custom install. 400 aint looking so bad. What i want you and everyone else here to understand is that willy can charge upto 1k if he wanted because, assuming your car is in good working order, the more air mods you install on the legend, i.e intake, headers, exhaust, Y pipe, straight pipe,TB, P&P, displacment increase, turbo etc. The more instant HP/FTLB once you put the bayou in. The timming increase really makes a big difference, especially if your car can breathe.
Untill we have a comparable choice to willy's ecu(formally dinan) whatever he charges and the pain of dealing with him, will have to be tolerated if you want to remain competitive.

~TRu Hybrid

swift · 08-23-05, 06:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Dv8

My point is in respect to engine managment. The bayou is as close as to what your going to get considering the alternative costs thousands more and needs a custom install. 400 aint looking so bad. What i want you and everyone else here to understand is that willy can charge upto 1k if he wanted because, assuming your car is in good working order, the more air mods you install on the legend, i.e intake, headers, exhaust, Y pipe, straight pipe,TB, P&P, displacment increase, turbo etc. The more instant HP/FTLB once you put the bayou in. The timming increase really makes a big difference, especially if your car can breathe.
Untill we have a comparable choice to willy's ecu(formally dinan) whatever he charges and the pain of dealing with him, will have to be tolerated if you want to remain competitive.

~TRu Hybrid

thanks christian. I hope you understand that at this point i could purchase..like today...and i would but with my oil rings the way they are. I understand Willie could do whatever he wanted in pricing also....and i am glad it isn't more than $400. Plus i still have to replace my clutch and you know i am going stage 2 spec

So first things first.

And i just got a job today as a part time mechanic again, so i might throw my old pulley back on for ya.....it is a paper weight right now.

later guys!

Kenso · 09-24-05, 05:31 PM

New dyno results...finally broke 200 whp.

sr79labrat · 11-18-05, 03:51 PM

Hey guys, got an updated run for you!
257.03whp
262.14w ft lbs
I am not sure of the psi....
I had the 5.8 psi spring in the wastegate
3psi of boost from the manifold on a mech. gauge
and an extreemly high output from from what I thought was only 5.8psi
I will test it tonight, but something is off.
Anyhow those are my new numbers.
The sheet will be up soon!
Thanks, Kyle

Dethred · 11-18-05, 04:20 PM

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Originally Posted by sr79labrat

Hey guys, got an updated run for you!
257.03whp
262.14w ft lbs
I am not sure of the psi....
I had the 5.8 psi spring in the wastegate
3psi of boost from the manifold on a mech. gauge
and an extreemly high output from from what I thought was only 5.8psi
I will test it tonight, but something is off.
Anyhow those are my new numbers.
The sheet will be up soon!
Thanks, Kyle

Where did you make the power? Spooling gettng any better?

sr79labrat · 11-18-05, 04:34 PM

It looks exactly like a stock curve after the boost hits.
5500RPM is peak hp
Over the entire range my hp and tq cream the old setup by 15-42 hp& tq
You will be amazed at the difference!
KTW

09-24-05, 05:31 PM	#57 (permalink)
Kenso Registered User Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: NC Posts: 2,859 Car 1: 91 L Coupe 6 spd Car 2: 95 FZJ 80 Car 3: ITR 00-106 iTrader: (19)	New dyno results...finally broke 200 whp. __________________ ITR 00-106 91 6spd coupe 95 FZJ-80 George Carlin on the American Dream (NWS)

11-18-05, 03:51 PM	#58 (permalink)
sr79labrat SR79 Labrat Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: CO-Springs Posts: 1,177 Car 1: Acura Legend iTrader: (7)	Hey guys, got an updated run for you! 257.03whp 262.14w ft lbs I am not sure of the psi.... I had the 5.8 psi spring in the wastegate 3psi of boost from the manifold on a mech. gauge and an extreemly high output from from what I thought was only 5.8psi I will test it tonight, but something is off. Anyhow those are my new numbers. The sheet will be up soon! Thanks, Kyle __________________ Turbo Legend Parts & Project Updates!!! Myspace- http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm...id=246 854652

11-18-05, 04:34 PM	#60 (permalink)
sr79labrat SR79 Labrat Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: CO-Springs Posts: 1,177 Car 1: Acura Legend iTrader: (7)	It looks exactly like a stock curve after the boost hits. 5500RPM is peak hp Over the entire range my hp and tq cream the old setup by 15-42 hp& tq You will be amazed at the difference! KTW __________________ Turbo Legend Parts & Project Updates!!! Myspace- http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm...id=246 854652

08-21-05, 07:04 PM	#46 (permalink)
SquaL Registered User Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Canada Posts: 120 Car 1: 1993 LS coupe 6spd iTrader: (1)	Dv8, thanks for the headsup/advice. The guy who did the dyno said something about intake as well, but I was not paying much attention (too shocked by low torque). Exhaust is on the way, intake to be ordered tomorrow, and been in touch with Willie about bayou, which I should have in September. will post new dyno then.

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