Ground Control too stiff? -->solution. New koni suspension!

KTD · 12-07-04, 01:31 PM

Just wanted to let those, who feel that ground controls + konis are a bit too stiff for their taste, know that they can soften up the ride by changing springs. Ground control had refused to offer an alternative to the spring rate of 450lb fronts and ~275(?) lb rears. So a spring tech calculated a different rate for me (275 fronts and 175 rears) using eibach race springs (ERS). I am now riding on 19" and must say that it is now a lot more comfortable when I had my 18" w/ the gc spring rates. Hope this help others.

BTW if no one heard, there is a new KONI 1130 SPORT KIT for the legend. It has 30 mm of adjustability. The part number is 1130-1001. It'll include the koni red struts and a matching spring together for around $600. Since they were engineered together, I think ride comfort improved too. http://www.koni-na.com/konisport/

Kev

frantinez63 · 12-07-04, 02:53 PM

Very cool write up. I wasn't aware of the new koni spring/shock combo.

Maybe I will have to invest.

-Eric

Gerald · 12-07-04, 03:04 PM

Thanks for the info man. I'll look into that down the road. Do you know excatly what our stock spring rates are? This is too cool

94LCoupe · 12-07-04, 03:06 PM

The Legend year is from 91-97. Hmm.

Gerald · 12-07-04, 03:12 PM

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Originally Posted by 94LCoupe

The Legend year is from 91-97. Hmm.

The only reason I can think of them listing '91-'97 is because the jdms went 'til '96 and 1997 is a typo

I want more info!!!!

Jsn350Z · 12-07-04, 04:30 PM

I wouldnt describe them as too stiff, but too bouncy, WAY TO BOUNCY!

94LCoupe · 12-07-04, 04:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Jsn350Z

I wouldnt describe them as too stiff, but too bouncy, WAY TO BOUNCY!

Increase the dampening on your Koni's. That will fix your bounce issue.

GSteg · 12-07-04, 04:43 PM

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Originally Posted by KTD

BTW if no one heard, there is a new KONI 1130 SPORT KIT for the legend. It has 30 mm of adjustability. The part number is 1130-1001. It'll include the koni red struts and a matching spring together for around $600. Since they were engineered together, I think ride comfort improved too. http://www.koni-na.com/konisport/

Kev

is it internally adjustable or externally?

$600 isn't bad considering most red koni goes for that much alone.

Gerald · 12-07-04, 05:48 PM

Since I already have koni reds, all I need to do is buy the new set of springs with the custom rates, right? Or will I have to buy another set of reds?

ScotcH · 12-08-04, 02:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Blue_Raspberry

Since I already have koni reds, all I need to do is buy the new set of springs with the custom rates, right? Or will I have to buy another set of reds?

I haven't looked at the kit, but usually, the shock body is threaded for the adjustable spring perch, so you would need a new one.

ScotcH · 12-08-04, 02:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Blue_Raspberry

Thanks for the info man. I'll look into that down the road. Do you know excatly what our stock spring rates are? This is too cool

They are progressive, so it varies, but the info I got is about 200 front, 150 rear.

Gerald · 12-08-04, 02:18 AM

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Originally Posted by KTD

So a spring tech calculated a different rate for me (275 fronts and 175 rears) using eibach race springs (ERS).

Kev

Now that I think about it, aren't those ratings the regular spring rates for eibachs? I think there's another thread discussing spring rates and that rate was mentioned. I could be wrong though.

KTD · 12-08-04, 11:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Blue_Raspberry

Since I already have koni reds, all I need to do is buy the new set of springs with the custom rates, right? Or will I have to buy another set of reds?

Are you currently using the stock springs w/ your koni reds? If so, I believe you can buy the new matching springs if they are sold separately. I believe the new package by koni uses the same koni reds.

kev

Just_blaze · 12-08-04, 11:37 AM

what does the 30mm of adjustability mean? is that how much u can lower it?

Gerald · 12-08-04, 03:40 PM

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Originally Posted by KTD

Are you currently using the stock springs w/ your koni reds? If so, I believe you can buy the new matching springs if they are sold separately. I believe the new package by koni uses the same koni reds.

kev

Yes, I am running stock springs with the reds. I'll check with koni and see what's up

Also, how low are you dropped? What perches are you on and do you have them adjusted so the car sits even? Or is it even all around without any adjustments to the perches?

12-07-04, 01:31 PM	#1 (permalink)
KTD Registered User Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Yay Area Posts: 228 Car 1: Type II coupe iTrader: (0)	Ground Control too stiff? -->solution. New koni suspension! Just wanted to let those, who feel that ground controls + konis are a bit too stiff for their taste, know that they can soften up the ride by changing springs. Ground control had refused to offer an alternative to the spring rate of 450lb fronts and ~275(?) lb rears. So a spring tech calculated a different rate for me (275 fronts and 175 rears) using eibach race springs (ERS). I am now riding on 19" and must say that it is now a lot more comfortable when I had my 18" w/ the gc spring rates. Hope this help others. BTW if no one heard, there is a new KONI 1130 SPORT KIT for the legend. It has 30 mm of adjustability. The part number is 1130-1001. It'll include the koni red struts and a matching spring together for around $600. Since they were engineered together, I think ride comfort improved too. http://www.koni-na.com/konisport/ Kev __________________

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frantinez63 NY Member Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: NYC--the toughest place to keep a Legend mint. Posts: 3,356 Car 1: Type I, KA8, Auto iTrader: (0)	Very cool write up. I wasn't aware of the new koni spring/shock combo. Maybe I will have to invest. -Eric __________________ http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e7...sigs/sig-1.jpg TL-S wheels, Specific Remus, Koni Reds on low, Two-Tone Leather, EDM corners, PIAA fogs, more to come.......

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Gerald Registered User Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Tallahassee, Florida Posts: 2,368 Car 1: 1991 Cobalt Blue KA8 Car 2: 1998 Kouki (sold) iTrader: (0)	Thanks for the info man. I'll look into that down the road. Do you know excatly what our stock spring rates are? This is too cool __________________ Help Me Find White/Black KA8

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94LCoupe Vrooom Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Plano, Texas Posts: 1,755 Car 1: 1994 L Coupe iTrader: (0)	The Legend year is from 91-97. Hmm. __________________ -Brian

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Gerald Registered User Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Tallahassee, Florida Posts: 2,368 Car 1: 1991 Cobalt Blue KA8 Car 2: 1998 Kouki (sold) iTrader: (0)	Since I already have koni reds, all I need to do is buy the new set of springs with the custom rates, right? Or will I have to buy another set of reds? __________________ Help Me Find White/Black KA8

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