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Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: Greensboro, NC
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Any thoughts about using a DC boost converter to get the voltage up?
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Join Date: Feb 2008
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YouTube - Hydrogen Cell HHO 5 Plates Lowes/Home Depot ( Baking Soda )
YouTube - #33 Hydrogen HHO Zero Cell 1st MILEAGE TESTS!! 2007/08/31 Check out these HHO videos......there are heaps more on youtube... the ones by the HOAX dude are pretty damn good. I like the guy who has converted his honda too.... I think my prelude would make a great test car. I need to find a local group that meets up and is discussing HHO and doing experiments, and tinkering with their cars.... There has got to be some people who are getting together to solve this energy problem. I went to the auto museum in Sacramento, and I saw this little 1970's japanese car there, and it was ALL ELECTRIC. during the oil crisis of the early seventies this guy converted his car and made it all electric. The other crazy thing there was a 1908 Stanley Steamer... this car ran off of water..... it reached over 200mph before it lifted off of the ground and crashed!!!!!!!!!!!! now thats some HP.... this car was crazy, I couldn't imagine doing 200mph in it, it basically had COVERED WAGON WHEELS made of WOOD! |
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haha dude i didnt even know we had an auto museum up here
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Join Date: Oct 2004
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Alrighty... so after reading through 5 pages has anyone on this forum actually tried this? Does it actually work? I cant find much information on what causes the temperature to rise. Is it the coolant temperature that rises or just the air intake temperature? Im thinking anyone that uses this kit on their car should invest in an EGT meter to make sure they're not risking a hole in their pistons.
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I haven't tried it yet (SHG has thwarted me) but I will later this summer. I believe the intake air temp is raised, and not by a lot. Heating the HHO (by routing it through copper tubing before introducing into the intake) helps raise combustion efficiency (so the theory says). Is EGT for measuring exhaust temp? That's a good idea because (even though my app is in an N/A motor) I do fear it might run way too lean...
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built a prototype and ran it until the electrodes became too corroded to effeciently produce enough HHO gas to make it worthwhile(about a couple days). didnt cook the motor in that time. did appear i used less gas but i didnt really measure my mpg. ive since upgraded to SS for my electrodes and just finished my 2nd proto. the p-tex is drying right now. once i have a permanent install and results to show ill post again.
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Join Date: Feb 2008
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You are the bomb..I'm on the edge of my seat awaiting your news.........
I was reading that the HHO actually makes your exhaust cleaner....and your O2 sensor will think that you are running too lean, and tell your engine to use more fuel..... which will counter the mpg gains.... Did you do anything to get around this issue? |
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Alright, I have a 1979 toyota pickup (heavily modified) that I put a new engine into last year: 22r motor, with weber 38 DGES carb, thick intake manifold to match, with a tri-y header. The problem I have with it is that to get the street power I want from it, I have to run the fuel/air mixture lean. But now that I've read a bit about HHO, it sounds like I could essentially run the mixture normally if i had HHO running into the line. I also have a high-output alternator that i was going to hook up to the overhead lights (haven't yet), and a battery that puts regular car batteries to shame (I took it out of an excavator). I was going to rewire the whole thing anyways...
and I realize I just brought this thread back from the dead, so if there is no other feedback then I'll just throw in an update when it's finished. I also have a friend (the one who told me about HHO) who is willing to try on his 1991 toyota corolla. We don't intend to just give in to these rediculous gas prices, or to wait for car companies and oil industries to REALLY do something about it. Stick it to the man!!! Last edited by Daemo : 06-02-08 at 03:39 AM. |
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Join Date: Apr 2002
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I'm glad to see this thread still kicking, I real hope to see one of you guys get a system working in something.
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Join Date: Jun 2008
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"If your vehicle has a oxygen sensor and you use the AIR-INTAKE system you need to install a lambda (EFIE) control otherwise no fuel savings at all. (Make sure that the fuel to air mixture is at 14 to 1. An Lamda / EFIE module so you can fool the CO2 sensor and it will give you much better gas mileage. *** For petrol engines it is possible (new discovery May 2008) to add it directly into the fuel line. expect MUCH better savings. You won't be needing the lambda control or efie system anymore! More details June 2008." try eagle-research.com for more info about EFIE device I just bought an HHO kit off ebay and will attempt to install it in my 2000 Honda crv. |
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Find Em Fuck Em Forget Em
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: Greensboro, NC
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Since you are altering the A/F ratio by adding hydrogen (and oxygen) to the intake, the 02 sensor is actually your friend IMO. As opposed to your right foot being the strict governing factor for fuel savings with carbs.
Saying the 02 sensor would negate the gains of HHO is like saying changing the spark plugs wouldn't give any gain (combustion efficiency)...because of the 02 sensor. I looked at the research site, but nothing they had there convinced me otherwise.
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