just got nitrous!!!!!WOOT! WOOT!

i<3mylegend · 03-11-08, 01:06 AM

i am so friken pumped!!!

i just bought a zex fogger kit with a 50 and 75 shot nozzles. i was really bumbed about not being able to get headers so i decided to go big and go for a little juice. i can't wait to get it installed this weekend. i know there are a few guys that have it on here, so anyone want to share there experience? i have had nitro on a few cars but onlt 4 cyl. so what can i expect?

Double Glow · 03-11-08, 01:22 AM

the earths rotation stops and you melt the ice caps

mellofelow · 03-11-08, 01:23 AM

Dude... you're my hero if you get this working right. Otherwise you're gonna toast the new Stromungs you just got.

Don't you have to pump more fuel through the injectors?

91TYPII · 03-12-08, 11:02 PM

Not if he runs the 55 shot, if he goes 75-100 i would get injectors, SAFC, FPR, and fuel pump, and tune the SAFC.
I'm running a 65 Shot and my car runs just fine

Still need to track and dyno it but i wanna get my headers and full exhaust before i do that.

BigRand · 03-13-08, 10:39 AM

if you have a wet kit, and the proper control box (like the zex kits offer) then you you should have enough fuel.

If your running a dry kit, thats when you need to start calculating how much extra fuel you'll need to support the shot that your running.

My rule of thumb is that if something requires bigger injectors then its probably going to require a bigger fuel pump, just to be on the safe side....good luck

mktng · 03-13-08, 10:42 AM

nos eh? hmmm.. can our engines handle it stock? wont you melt the car? teheheh

now your car qualifies for the new Fast and Furious movie ^__^

music2bmurderedby · 03-13-08, 11:58 AM

not knockin you buddy that's cool if you're having fun, but i would've used that money towards building my engine up a bit first. you would've got less power but power that would have helped your engine last a nice long time & then be able to handle the nos later on & you would've at that time (of later installing nos) then even had more power. good luck as to how long the engine lasts - especially if you're hittin that 75. but you say you've had it on other cars so maybe you know what you're doing.

Johnny Kim · 03-16-08, 09:00 AM

dont spray on low rpms. i forgot who had problems. (could be tnelson)

uPnoRthACme · 03-18-08, 08:18 PM

Don't spray below 2500 rpm!
These motors are near bulletproof. As long as you dont have a remapped ecu with advanced timing you should be all set.
Even with a dry kit, you will not need any fuel mod's. The Ecu will add the correct amount of fuel, not to mention, these cars run on the rich side as it is.
And for those of you calling it NOS, IT'S NITROUS. Get it right, NOS is a brand!
There is much to say, but I'm too lazy and tired. Good luck.

i<3mylegend · 03-19-08, 12:19 AM

as far as building the engine , i am not sure what they offer for forged internals and studs and whatnot so i am not sure what all you can do. maybe if someone made a block gaurd and headstuds i could "build the motor". a dry kit like i have should be ok and longevity shouldn't be a problem cause its not like i am going to be fogging it all the time.
thanks for the tip on not fogging it before 2500. i was courious about that. i really wasn't planning on flipping the switch until 4k when the butterflies open anyway though.
i plan on getting the ecu chipped by telion this month and also getting a safc and a dyno tune once i get everything the way i want it. i am not some newb who hasn't messed with this kind of stuff before. i was just asking experience with it like gains and how noticable it was. like on single cams 4 cylanders i know you really can't even tell the difference. thanks for the advice guys.

uPnoRthACme · 03-19-08, 07:41 PM

If you are getting your ecu chipped by telion, I highly suggest a moats two timer.
This will allow you to run two maps on the ecu. One for N/A, and one for Nitrous. THere is a wire that comes from the two timer. You wire this up to your nitrous switch. When the nitrous switch is flipped to activate the nitrous, it will switch over to the F/I map.

THe N/a map has advanced timing with fuel taken out.
THe F/I map will have retarded timing and added fuel depending on the size shot you're going to use, 75 in your case. With a 75 shot, 2 degrees retarded should be what you want it programmed at.

Forevralegend · 03-19-08, 08:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by uPnoRthACme

If you are getting your ecu chipped by telion, I highly suggest a moats two timer.
This will allow you to run two maps on the ecu. One for N/A, and one for Nitrous. THere is a wire that comes from the two timer. You wire this up to your nitrous switch. When the nitrous switch is flipped to activate the nitrous, it will switch over to the F/I map.

THe N/a map has advanced timing with fuel taken out.
THe F/I map will have retarded timing and added fuel depending on the size shot you're going to use, 75 in your case. With a 75 shot, 2 degrees retarded should be what you want it programmed at.

thats actually exactly what im doing haha

uPnoRthACme · 03-20-08, 02:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Forevralegend

thats actually exactly what im doing haha

That makes two of us

I just finished paying for my porting & polish work this week

I should have the motor completely finished by May with a dry 100 shot running. Can't wait to laydown some runs at the track. The strip in my area doesn't open till around the 20th of April. I'm gunnin for ya!

Forevralegend · 03-20-08, 03:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by uPnoRthACme

That makes two of us

I just finished paying for my porting & polish work this week

I should have the motor completely finished by May with a dry 100 shot running. Can't wait to laydown some runs at the track. The strip in my area doesn't open till around the 20th of April. I'm gunnin for ya!

100 shot? damn thats quite a bit of nitrous, can our engines take that much??

uPnoRthACme · 03-20-08, 04:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Forevralegend

100 shot? damn thats quite a bit of nitrous, can our engines take that much??

It shouldn't have any problem after properly tuning and adjusting the A/F. My set up is almost identical to yours, plus a few other mods. From my experience with these motors and using nitrous, I'm not the least bit concerned.

I ran a .36 jet with the bayou chip(advanced timing) a few years back, no safc to correct the a/f ratio, using stock injectors/FP, and close to 200,000 miles on the stock motor. I'd think a fully modded, properly tuned motor should be in clear to step it up another 25hp.

I'm pretty sure Dv8 has run a larger jet on the dyno along with a few other members in the past with minimal mods.

I'll be using a close to fresh stock block with just over 45,000 miles.

03-11-08, 01:06 AM	#1 (permalink)
i<3mylegend Registered User Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: muskegon mi Posts: 120 Car 1: 91 legend sedan Car 2: 2001 focus Car 3: 94 gsr (just sold):( iTrader: (2)	just got nitrous!!!!!WOOT! WOOT! i am so friken pumped!!! i just bought a zex fogger kit with a 50 and 75 shot nozzles. i was really bumbed about not being able to get headers so i decided to go big and go for a little juice. i can't wait to get it installed this weekend. i know there are a few guys that have it on here, so anyone want to share there experience? i have had nitro on a few cars but onlt 4 cyl. so what can i expect?

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mellofelow Registered User Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 415 Car 1: 94 L coupe 6 spd iTrader: (10)	Dude... you're my hero if you get this working right. Otherwise you're gonna toast the new Stromungs you just got. Don't you have to pump more fuel through the injectors? __________________ Mellow Legend Gallery Link Stromung Exhaust Feb 2008 special!!! Buy Count Final: Muffler = 27 B-Pipe = 18

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91TYPII ¿HöNdÄ LëGëNd¿ Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Taylorsville, Utah Posts: 905 Car 1: 91 LeGeNd Car 2: 93 Accord-wifes car iTrader: (1)	Not if he runs the 55 shot, if he goes 75-100 i would get injectors, SAFC, FPR, and fuel pump, and tune the SAFC. I'm running a 65 Shot and my car runs just fine Still need to track and dyno it but i wanna get my headers and full exhaust before i do that. __________________ Not much yet but, Type II Swap *Custom CAI* 18 in enkei evo 5 rims *Koni/GC Suspension* Blacked Out JDM headlights *Blacked out bumper sigs* Brembo Xdrilled/Slotted Rotors *JDM grille* Telion Chipped ECU *JDM h4h 6000k HID KIT*

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BigRand Registered User Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: seattle Posts: 99 Car 1: 1993 Acura Legend L Car 2: 99 Mitsu Eclipse iTrader: (1)	if you have a wet kit, and the proper control box (like the zex kits offer) then you you should have enough fuel. If your running a dry kit, thats when you need to start calculating how much extra fuel you'll need to support the shot that your running. My rule of thumb is that if something requires bigger injectors then its probably going to require a bigger fuel pump, just to be on the safe side....good luck __________________ Kings & Legends The Daily 93 Acura Legend L Sedan JDM Type 1 Motor 18x7.5 Privat Netz Rims 225x45x18 Kumho Ecsta SPT Tires 15% Window Tint Euro Bumper & turn signal lights 6000K H.I.D.'s K&N Short Ram Intake Stromung Exhaust Goodridge SS Brakelines

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03-13-08, 10:42 AM	#6 (permalink)
mktng Matthew is THE USER! Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Ottawa, Ontario, Canada Posts: 917 Car 1: 91 KA7 iTrader: (3)	nos eh? hmmm.. can our engines handle it stock? wont you melt the car? teheheh now your car qualifies for the new Fast and Furious movie ^__^

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music2bmurderedby absconds using pump gas Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: stockton, ca Posts: 478 Car 1: 91' legend ls sedan Car 2: 2000 odyssey van Car 3: 96' rl iTrader: (0)	not knockin you buddy that's cool if you're having fun, but i would've used that money towards building my engine up a bit first. you would've got less power but power that would have helped your engine last a nice long time & then be able to handle the nos later on & you would've at that time (of later installing nos) then even had more power. good luck as to how long the engine lasts - especially if you're hittin that 75. but you say you've had it on other cars so maybe you know what you're doing. __________________

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uPnoRthACme Registered User Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Haverhell, Massholechusetts/NH/VT Posts: 761 Car 2: 94 L coupe 6-spd Car 3: 240 Zenki iTrader: (11)	Don't spray below 2500 rpm! These motors are near bulletproof. As long as you dont have a remapped ecu with advanced timing you should be all set. Even with a dry kit, you will not need any fuel mod's. The Ecu will add the correct amount of fuel, not to mention, these cars run on the rich side as it is. And for those of you calling it NOS, IT'S NITROUS. Get it right, NOS is a brand! There is much to say, but I'm too lazy and tired. Good luck. __________________ ____________________________________________ Sent off to the crazy man with a torch and too many idea's . . AWD prospect. Held the 3.2 N/A 1/4 mile record for 2 years & 4 months with this pile. 9/30/05: This N/A Type II Auto Sedan ripped a 14.509 @ 96.1 Mph on street tire's.

03-19-08, 12:19 AM	#10 (permalink)
i<3mylegend Registered User Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: muskegon mi Posts: 120 Car 1: 91 legend sedan Car 2: 2001 focus Car 3: 94 gsr (just sold):( iTrader: (2)	as far as building the engine , i am not sure what they offer for forged internals and studs and whatnot so i am not sure what all you can do. maybe if someone made a block gaurd and headstuds i could "build the motor". a dry kit like i have should be ok and longevity shouldn't be a problem cause its not like i am going to be fogging it all the time. thanks for the tip on not fogging it before 2500. i was courious about that. i really wasn't planning on flipping the switch until 4k when the butterflies open anyway though. i plan on getting the ecu chipped by telion this month and also getting a safc and a dyno tune once i get everything the way i want it. i am not some newb who hasn't messed with this kind of stuff before. i was just asking experience with it like gains and how noticable it was. like on single cams 4 cylanders i know you really can't even tell the difference. thanks for the advice guys.

03-19-08, 07:41 PM	#11 (permalink)
uPnoRthACme Registered User Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Haverhell, Massholechusetts/NH/VT Posts: 761 Car 2: 94 L coupe 6-spd Car 3: 240 Zenki iTrader: (11)	If you are getting your ecu chipped by telion, I highly suggest a moats two timer. This will allow you to run two maps on the ecu. One for N/A, and one for Nitrous. THere is a wire that comes from the two timer. You wire this up to your nitrous switch. When the nitrous switch is flipped to activate the nitrous, it will switch over to the F/I map. THe N/a map has advanced timing with fuel taken out. THe F/I map will have retarded timing and added fuel depending on the size shot you're going to use, 75 in your case. With a 75 shot, 2 degrees retarded should be what you want it programmed at.

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