50 available on ebay for $1400 shipped each. (link)
We really should organize a group buy. Try to get them for $1000 each. XD
not a huge difference, but I found an AEM dealer who will sell them for $1350 shipped. I am going to contact him to see if there's any wiggle room with more buyers
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I know a warehouse distributor and got mine new 2-3 years ago for $1150, but they have gone up in price alot. Last price I heard I could get them for was $1300 or so.
AEM can fully control automatic transmissions as well, but it is very difficult to setup and tune, much moreso than tuning an engine.
There is an option in AEMPro to configure how long the fuel pump primes for, not sure if this was tried and it still didn't work. While tuning and downloading logs, uploading new cals, etc you do need to often sit with the motor off and ignition on, otherwise you can't access the EMS. AEM recommends not leaving it always on at ignition due to fire hazard in certain situations.
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I believe you need the 91-95 ems for OBD1.
50 available on ebay for $1400 shipped each. (link)
We really should organize a group buy. Try to get them for $1000 each. XD
I would def be interested in picking up a unit, my only problem would be locateing a Tuner to get it functioning for me.
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I know a warehouse distributor and got mine new 2-3 years ago for $1150, but they have gone up in price alot. Last price I heard I could get them for was $1300 or so.
AEM can fully control automatic transmissions as well, but it is very difficult to setup and tune, much moreso than tuning an engine.
There is an option in AEMPro to configure how long the fuel pump primes for, not sure if this was tried and it still didn't work. While tuning and downloading logs, uploading new cals, etc you do need to often sit with the motor off and ignition on, otherwise you can't access the EMS. AEM recommends not leaving it always on at ignition due to fire hazard in certain situations.
You have been running this setup since 2005? Why is it that it is such a break through all of a sudden now that DV8 did it? I dont understand.
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I would def be interested in picking up a unit, my only problem would be locateing a Tuner to get it functioning for me.
You have been running this setup since 2005? Why is it that it is such a break through all of a sudden now that DV8 did it? I dont understand.
Anyone that can tune another EMS type box can tune this one. A good A/F sensor and guage is required.
Imran figured it out in 05' on his Legend. He got it running and tuned it himself the best he knew how but then hit a road block when his motor gave up( I think it was bottomend failure). Due to time constraints with school and life in general he hasnt been able to finish the whole project.
With his help and a few others I did the same thing, had it tuned by a tuner because I didnt know jack about it nor did I want to screw anything up myself. Dynoed it and tracked it. The benefits are endless and its what Ive been preaching that is nessasary before going to F/I for years.
So the difference is that its now been proven on a Legend. Ability to change anything including timing. It gained siginifigant amount of HP(10whp na me) and the door is wide open for any type of F/I. Not to mention all the cool features it has built in.
~Dv8
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While tuning and downloading logs, uploading new cals, etc you do need to often sit with the motor off and ignition on, otherwise you can't access the EMS. AEM recommends not leaving it always on at ignition due to fire hazard in certain situations.
Are you sure about that? Man, what a shitbox, can download, upload and datalog an Autronic under any operating conditions. You could leave the key on until the battery goes flat.
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Anyone that can tune another EMS type box can tune this one. A good A/F sensor and guage is required.
Imran figured it out in 05' on his Legend. He got it running and tuned it himself the best he knew how but then hit a road block when his motor gave up( I think it was bottomend failure). Due to time constraints with school and life in general he hasnt been able to finish the whole project.
With his help and a few others I did the same thing, had it tuned by a tuner because I didnt know jack about it nor did I want to screw anything up myself. Dynoed it and tracked it. The benefits are endless and its what Ive been preaching that is nessasary before going to F/I for years.
So the difference is that its now been proven on a Legend. Ability to change anything including timing. It gained siginifigant amount of HP(10whp na me) and the door is wide open for any type of F/I. Not to mention all the cool features it has built in.
~Dv8
Thanks for the explanation. I am in the same boat as you once was in regards to knowing jack about the unit and how to tune it. I have read most of your findings but I def agree I will need to consult with a professional. I am more than likely going to pick this unit up and use it along with my def 6 speed swap and the maybe 3.5 swap. If I go with the 3.5 I plan on having the cylinders bored for more power and displacement along with a bunch of other stuff.
Once again thanks for your help!
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It used to be a sticky, I guess it was taken off and this one was stickied instead.
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Imran figured it out in 05' on his Legend. He got it running and tuned it himself the best he knew how but then hit a road block when his motor gave up( I think it was bottomend failure). Due to time constraints with school and life in general he hasnt been able to finish the whole project.
So the difference is that its now been proven on a Legend. Ability to change anything including timing. It gained siginifigant amount of HP(10whp na me) and the door is wide open for any type of F/I. Not to mention all the cool features it has built in.
~Dv8
Wow where do people pull this kind of bullshit out of? My motor is in the exact same condition now as it was before I put on the EMS and tuned it, and it still runs great to this day. I gained a significant amount of power with the EMS and hit no road block with it, my car is torn down for another major project. It was proven back in '05, reputable people have seen my datalogs. There is no difference now, besides Dv8 posted dyno charts.
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Are you sure about that? Man, what a shitbox, can download, upload and datalog an Autronic under any operating conditions. You could leave the key on until the battery goes flat.
Chris
lol Chris, I know you hate the AEM, but actually I wasn't clear on what I said. There is no problem with leaving the EMS on at ignition, what is not recommended is to have the fuel pump run constantly, like was previously described here.
It used to be a sticky, I guess it was taken off and this one was stickied instead.
Wow where do people pull this kind of bullshit out of? My motor is in the exact same condition now as it was before I put on the EMS and tuned it, and it still runs great to this day. I gained a significant amount of power with the EMS and hit no road block with it, my car is torn down for another major project. It was proven back in '05, reputable people have seen my datalogs. There is no difference now, besides Dv8 posted dyno charts.
No reason to get defensive, or imply im spreading BS.
I must had misunderstood when you said you used a boost compensation method of tuning and thought you may had hurt your bottomend by doing so hence the tear down. My appologies.
Proven here is more than saying somethings done.
People here want hard results(dyno-track) and I continued what you started to provide those and some calibrations to start off with.
~Dv8
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Are you sure about that? Man, what a shitbox, can download, upload and datalog an Autronic under any operating conditions. You could leave the key on until the battery goes flat.
Chris
The fuel pump stays on at ignition because the NSX main relay and the Legend are different with how they apply power to the pump. I believe they are two different relays in the NSX as opposed to one main relay in the Legend. In an NSX, the pump would prime and shut off like the Legends.
I get the fact your a hardcore Autronic guy, and respect it. If we had a plug and play Autronic unit here like the NSX ems is, Im sure we'd all be on it. To take shots at the AEM EMS everytime something negative comes up doesnt really do any of us any good. We run on streetable Legend chassis', far different than wiring up a race buggy.
~Dv8
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The fuel pump stays on at ignition because the NSX main relay and the Legend are different with how they apply power to the pump. I believe they are two different relays in the NSX as opposed to one main relay in the Legend. In an NSX, the pump would prime and shut off like the Legends.
I get the fact your a hardcore Autronic guy, and respect it. If we had a plug and play Autronic unit here like the NSX ems is, Im sure we'd all be on it. To take shots at the AEM EMS everytime something negative comes up doesnt really do any of us any good. We run on streetable Legend chassis', far different than wiring up a race buggy.
~Dv8
That is an extremely unsafe situation. Fuel pump time out is a major safety factor for vehicles equipped with high pressure fuel pump/s.For your own safety I ask that you rectify the situation.
If you read the absolute anti Autronic shit storm that one of the AEM technical guys started on Supra.com before the introduction of the AEM units you might understand why I dont like them. He must have been ex-CIA (start with big lies and move up)
In fact I was just generally commenting on the way the AEM works. For a guy like yourself small issues like having to shut down the engine to link the the ecu is no big deal. Do it all day every day and you will start to see the drawbacks.
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For a guy like yourself small issues like having to shut down the engine to link the the ecu is no big deal. Do it all day every day and you will start to see the drawbacks.
Chris
I can see where your coming from. I may just wire up a simple toggle switch connected to the relay's fuel pump power. If I hide it well enough it can double as my Anti-theft kill switch as well.
Good deal! You got me thinking
~Dv8
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I can see where your coming from. I may just wire up a simple toggle switch connected to the relay's fuel pump power. If I hide it well enough it can double as my Anti-theft kill switch as well.
Good deal! You got me thinking
~Dv8
Really you want the ecu timeout.In the event of a major crash that ruptures the high pressure fuel line you have no safety shutoff.I implore you and other users to fully consider the implications.If you can give me a link to both wiring diagrams I can find a solution.
Relink time for an Autronic after ignition off-on cycle is 1-3 seconds. Some cheap aftermarket ecu's have relink times of up to two minutes.The price advantage of the cheap units is often lost in extra tuner time.I like gear that works, thats all.
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