Lusting for a twin turbo setup, and would like (helpful) ideas - Page 3

Telion · 06-24-08, 03:16 AM

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Originally Posted by mellofelow

What about sensor/switch... etc?
I'm due for a new cooling upgrade. Wanna know options before I go with Koyos.

Just noticed that the last pic looks like it is temp sensor ready and since it is a Honda/Acura model it will hopefully be plug and play in this aspect.

whats77inaname · 06-24-08, 11:52 AM

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Originally Posted by DandDEE

Telion and whats77inaname you guys are not cool you guys never let me in on anything

well i guess the cats ripped out of the bag, hang in there master T u shall reap the benefits soon enough!

This board is brutal, man. That's why I hardly post about any of my aspirations/projects. I remember when I posted about putting hood locks on my c/f hood, and I got flamed b/c everyone said only Sparco would work. So I got the hood looks on, and no one said anything. Then I remember when I bought a JDM console for my manual, and I got reamed for that, too, until Sean put one in his car. Once again, nothing from the detractors. Then I said I was going to get all the a/c vents to work on the console, and once again, doubters. Too many people saying this, that, or the other can't be done. So I usually keep things on the DL until it is complete or pretty much complete.

DandDEE · 06-24-08, 01:52 PM

^^thats why we have PM so u can tell me these things but it seems like wen they doubt u , u come out stronger and shut them up how about another ... bet u cant make your car RWD

whats77inaname · 06-24-08, 02:05 PM

I have no intentions to make my car RWD. That's what Supras are for

DandDEE · 06-24-08, 02:12 PM

i know just joking

dasficktauf · 06-24-08, 02:14 PM

guess i'm the only one tryin to figure out how to put an ls7 in my legend..

call it the levette. haha

( i really have been trying to figure out if i can do it ( hell i put an ls6 in a 1954 vette) and if the guy can do it with a civic hatch. i KNOW i can do it with a legend.

whats77inaname · 06-24-08, 02:22 PM

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Originally Posted by DandDEE

i know just joking

*lol* I know mang, I know

DandDEE · 06-24-08, 02:31 PM

i added that to get my post points up seems like everyone else is doin it so i just decided to do that to but back to the subject at hand... dasfickkAuf i hope it works out for u doesn't seem like its gonna be easy for you at all

Telion · 06-25-08, 04:58 AM

Ok back on track, here is first shot at getting as close to what I wanted my idea so far. Hopefully this will pan out ok. Please tear apart and mention any obstacles you might see. I think I covered the piping clearance issues. I do know that some of this is going to be a serious PITA. and the areas around the tranny will need to be heat shielded some how. I wanna cross over from one exhaust manifold to the turbo on the opposite side. And still need to get measurements of the piping going to the turbos to balance that out in this area, but for now the Y-pipe is in the way, I am short on PVC, and there will need to be some custom cutting goin on down there (love the Legends ability to squeeze so much into so little space). It will also require some cutting away at and reinforcement of the couple small (3" sections) of the support brace under there. but we'll see how it goes.

PS if anyone has a good lead on an oil return pump let me know. Now tear it apart and yes the turbos are ugly and unclean but this is a budget project and if successful I will most likely upgrade.

Man what I would give for an in garage lift and a cup of coffee lol. and these things though small when are really heavy when trying to move them around and position them while upside down and a light at your back man I hope this works.

Telion · 06-25-08, 05:22 AM

Thinking (in writing) I should do a protective plate. and here are a few more pics one of whis is what I wanted to do.

whats77inaname · 06-25-08, 11:11 AM

Every time I see an under the car mounted turbo, I just keep thinking that is a stone's throw away from a detonated engine :| You will DEFINITELY need a plate of some sort under there to protect those bad boys.

GrumpySteelMan · 06-25-08, 11:52 AM

I would also agree that a skid plate is a good idea at this point.

As far as that really scientific and involved post about singles vs twins.... the argument is simple for me. If budget is no object, then it is all about packaging. These cars have enough displacement to easily go either direction.

Personally I've always felt that a single turbo setup was best for maximum effort. Only one shaft and set of bearings for friction. Less total rotating mass, inertia.

Aside from maximum effort though, you really can go either way. What exactly are those turbos you're using?

Telion · 06-25-08, 12:20 PM

For now just a set of used Garrett AR.42's I wanna see how this works out before putting big money into turbos.

whats77inaname · 06-25-08, 01:10 PM

I'm a single person, as well. Once in boost, you shouldn't have any lag to worry about. With a 3.5, one would assume you have enough grunt to get off the line.

chapman89 · 06-25-08, 01:13 PM

Wow, those most recent pictures put everything into perspective on how cramped of a working space you have! How do you intend on making a protective shield...Are you thinking aluminum or plastic of some sort?

I'm very impressed with this! Good work!

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06-25-08, 04:58 AM	#39 (permalink)
Telion Of the Telion Chip Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Hopefully In your ECU ;) Posts: 3,833 Car 1: White 91 KA8 5spd W/3.5, TII Cams & Manifold Car 2: White 91 KA8 JDM TII iTrader: (34)	Ok back on track, here is first shot at getting as close to what I wanted my idea so far. Hopefully this will pan out ok. Please tear apart and mention any obstacles you might see. I think I covered the piping clearance issues. I do know that some of this is going to be a serious PITA. and the areas around the tranny will need to be heat shielded some how. I wanna cross over from one exhaust manifold to the turbo on the opposite side. And still need to get measurements of the piping going to the turbos to balance that out in this area, but for now the Y-pipe is in the way, I am short on PVC, and there will need to be some custom cutting goin on down there (love the Legends ability to squeeze so much into so little space). It will also require some cutting away at and reinforcement of the couple small (3" sections) of the support brace under there. but we'll see how it goes. PS if anyone has a good lead on an oil return pump let me know. Now tear it apart and yes the turbos are ugly and unclean but this is a budget project and if successful I will most likely upgrade. Man what I would give for an in garage lift and a cup of coffee lol. and these things though small when are really heavy when trying to move them around and position them while upside down and a light at your back man I hope this works. __________________ \/Provider of The Telion Chip click here\/ http://telionsite.com or search Telion Chip 3.5, TII cams,pnp mani & springs,Telion Chip,HID's,H&R's/Koni's,Addco Sway bars,TII calipers,RH C2's,R.J. shifter,DV8 EGR plate,CAI,OBX headers,2.5" exhaust,hi-flow cat,K2 muffler,Stage III clutch,S&D rotors, KVR pads, blackend damper, a CF hood, AFC NEO, 3.5 Aluminum pulley, & Web cams. C&R Racing radiator and more to come.

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Telion Of the Telion Chip Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Hopefully In your ECU ;) Posts: 3,833 Car 1: White 91 KA8 5spd W/3.5, TII Cams & Manifold Car 2: White 91 KA8 JDM TII iTrader: (34)	Thinking (in writing) I should do a protective plate. and here are a few more pics one of whis is what I wanted to do. __________________ \/Provider of The Telion Chip click here\/ http://telionsite.com or search Telion Chip 3.5, TII cams,pnp mani & springs,Telion Chip,HID's,H&R's/Koni's,Addco Sway bars,TII calipers,RH C2's,R.J. shifter,DV8 EGR plate,CAI,OBX headers,2.5" exhaust,hi-flow cat,K2 muffler,Stage III clutch,S&D rotors, KVR pads, blackend damper, a CF hood, AFC NEO, 3.5 Aluminum pulley, & Web cams. C&R Racing radiator and more to come.

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GrumpySteelMan Find Em Fuck Em Forget Em Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Greensboro, NC Posts: 982 Car 1: 2004 Nighthawk RL Car 2: 2005 Nighthawk TL Car 3: 2002 525i Sport Wag iTrader: (0)	I would also agree that a skid plate is a good idea at this point. As far as that really scientific and involved post about singles vs twins.... the argument is simple for me. If budget is no object, then it is all about packaging. These cars have enough displacement to easily go either direction. Personally I've always felt that a single turbo setup was best for maximum effort. Only one shaft and set of bearings for friction. Less total rotating mass, inertia. Aside from maximum effort though, you really can go either way. What exactly are those turbos you're using? __________________ "A gentleman is one who never hurts anyone's feelings unintentionally." -Oscar Wilde 3.5RL With/Without Nitrous Comparo Video

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Telion Of the Telion Chip Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Hopefully In your ECU ;) Posts: 3,833 Car 1: White 91 KA8 5spd W/3.5, TII Cams & Manifold Car 2: White 91 KA8 JDM TII iTrader: (34)	For now just a set of used Garrett AR.42's I wanna see how this works out before putting big money into turbos. __________________ \/Provider of The Telion Chip click here\/ http://telionsite.com or search Telion Chip 3.5, TII cams,pnp mani & springs,Telion Chip,HID's,H&R's/Koni's,Addco Sway bars,TII calipers,RH C2's,R.J. shifter,DV8 EGR plate,CAI,OBX headers,2.5" exhaust,hi-flow cat,K2 muffler,Stage III clutch,S&D rotors, KVR pads, blackend damper, a CF hood, AFC NEO, 3.5 Aluminum pulley, & Web cams. C&R Racing radiator and more to come.

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06-24-08, 02:05 PM	#34 (permalink)
whats77inaname Renaissance. Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Tx Posts: 2,920 Car 1: 91 5MT LS, 271k Car 2: 91 5MT LS, 183k Car 3: 03 G35 sdn (wife's) iTrader: (21)	I have no intentions to make my car RWD. That's what Supras are for

06-25-08, 11:11 AM	#41 (permalink)
whats77inaname Renaissance. Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Tx Posts: 2,920 Car 1: 91 5MT LS, 271k Car 2: 91 5MT LS, 183k Car 3: 03 G35 sdn (wife's) iTrader: (21)	Every time I see an under the car mounted turbo, I just keep thinking that is a stone's throw away from a detonated engine :\| You will DEFINITELY need a plate of some sort under there to protect those bad boys.

06-25-08, 01:10 PM	#44 (permalink)
whats77inaname Renaissance. Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Tx Posts: 2,920 Car 1: 91 5MT LS, 271k Car 2: 91 5MT LS, 183k Car 3: 03 G35 sdn (wife's) iTrader: (21)	I'm a single person, as well. Once in boost, you shouldn't have any lag to worry about. With a 3.5, one would assume you have enough grunt to get off the line.

06-25-08, 01:13 PM	#45 (permalink)
chapman89 Registered User Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Wake Forest, NC Posts: 1,586 Car 1: 1993 Acura Legend LS iTrader: (8)	Wow, those most recent pictures put everything into perspective on how cramped of a working space you have! How do you intend on making a protective shield...Are you thinking aluminum or plastic of some sort? I'm very impressed with this! Good work! __________________ New pictures of my 93' LS sedan WTB: Type F, Drivers door weather stripping! PM me! FS: OEM 15in Legend Wheels. Great condition! PM me!