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Old 06-23-08, 01:50 PM   #1 (permalink)
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magnetic drain plugs

I just bought a pair from M-factory (honda tech link) and wanted to let you know the oilpan plug fits perfectly. I haven't done the transmission fluid plug yet.

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different plugs, but this is what they do:
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Holy hell thats a awesome little thing. I've always wondered what was the point....Time to order 2 of those.
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Old 06-23-08, 02:11 PM   #3 (permalink)
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isnt the transmission plug already magnitized? im pretty sure that it is
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hmm that looks like an excellent idea I think I will pick one up in a bit too let me know how the tranny plug fit is when you get it.
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AT drain bolts are definitely magnetic. Did a drain/refill a few months ago. Will probably pick one of these up. Thanks for the info.

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Looking over the Helms, #25 is definitely the transmission drain plug and #34 is the fill plug. #25 cost $9.67 retail, so maybe that's magnetic - #34 costs $2.37.
Manual trans diagram

#25 is shared across multiple models.

This one appears to be the bolt for the auto transmission,(#16 in this diagram) and costs $7.55:
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#16 is also shared across multiple models
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all the drain plugs i buy are magnetic??? its a great concept though.
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been meaning to get some, thanks for the sale link. I bought two oil plugs and a tranny plug for the 6spd saving a few bucks each over ebay prices.
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The OEM tranny drain plug is magnetic but probably not as strong as this thing.

These things look pretty good and the price is great too. The only bad thing is that doing a fluid change would make you sad to see your engine or tranny slowly wearing itself out.
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I talked to Ken - the automatic OEM plug is magnetic.

The manual is not, though it has a magnet inside the transmission case, which cannot be gotten to without taking apart the transmission.
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"Somebody forwarded this email to me today where this new company, Titek, was promoting their magnetic drain plugs for an engine’s oil pan. While the concept is somewhat novel, it’s application is kind of dumb. A magnetic drain plug (mdp) has its place in a transmission with steel gears or a rear end with steel gears and metallic clutches where bits of steel can actually float around in the oil. However, a mdp actually has no place in an engine’s crankcase if you really think about it. In the remote possibility that your engine’s cams are gear driven, an mdp might have a place, but chances are if you are reading this blog your engine does not have gear driven cams.

Let’s think about what’s inside of an engine block for a second here: a crankshaft, bearings, rods, pistons, wrist pins, pin clips, and piston rings. The crank, rods, and pins are all riding on films of oil. The pin clips hold the wrist pins in place and the piston rings are held in place by the piston’s ring lands and neither bits of clips or rings can come out unless a catastrophic failure occurs. In the head, you have cams, followers, springs,retainers, and locks. If any of these components fail, the last thing you need to be worrying about is catching bits of steel at the very bottom of an oil pan with a mdp.

So in a healthy engine, what’s the purpose of having a mdp? The only components that can wear are the bearings and at that point your engine has become unhealthy probably due to a cracked oil pump rotor, oil pickup tube, lack of oil or pump cavitation and is living on borrowed time anyway. Bearings consist of lead, tin, copper, and sometimes babbit and/or aluminum. The last time I checked, none of these elements were magnetic because they are non ferrous. If the steel components break (crank, rods, pins, clips, or rings) or chip, the last thing you need to be worry about again is catching bits of steel at the very bottom of the oil pan with a mdp. You will more likely be either on the side of the road or track with a hole in your engine block and waiting for a tow truck. No mdp no matter how strong it’s magnet is, is going to save the day.

While technically it cannot hurt to use an mdp on your engine’s oil pan, it has no merit either. I’m not bagging on Titek since I know nothing about their products and I’m sure there are other companies that make mdps. I’m just making a point that mdps are useless. Some companies like to make products to increase sales so you can spend your hard earned money. That’s ok, but spend it on something that’s worth a shit."

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You make an interesting point, but consider this: you can also use it as a diagnostic tool, to try to prevent catastrophic failure by early detection of the signs of such - one of which might be increased metal shavings on your magnetic drain plug.

I don't know about you, but I would rather find out I need a new crank during an oil change than during a nice drive.
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I doubt I'll send mine back I like wiping all the crap of the stock auto tranny one to much. I look at it like this, oil is in the motor for lubrication do you want ground up metal grit in your lube? Well, I don't and neither does your girl friend j/k. Seriously, I cant see the harm but I can see the benefit in removing metal particles just from a friction standpoint. Smooth lube fluid FTW
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Anyone else ever notice that some of the greatest writings in all of the internet's history usually start with the words:

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i debated getting MDP when i wore out my old plug and after asking couple of mechanics and google searches, they all said its a waste of money. all that crap comes out when you drain the oil anyway.
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