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Old 02-12-02, 03:55 PM   #16 (permalink)
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Hey Legend GS:

How did you manage to get your strutbar from SKR? I called them to ask them for a refund, and they told me that they were suing Dale Davis and that he had more or less ran off with the money...
If you have any contact info for Dale, could you forward it to me?

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Really sorry to hear about that. Whom did you speak with at SKR? Did they say why they were suing?

I contacted Dale using the email address that he had provided at the forum earlier last month. He did tell me that he had three on hand, and had them earmarked for those of us who received them recently.

He explained that much of the delay was due to his moving and settling into Japan.

The email address that I have been using to contact him is hcr32gtstdale@hotmail.com

Good luck with it and let me know what you hear either here or by email. Thanks!
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Would they work on the coupes?
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Hey Legend GS:

How did you manage to get your strutbar from SKR? I called them to ask them for a refund, and they told me that they were suing Dale Davis and that he had more or less ran off with the money...
thnx.
No f'in sh!t. But the last time I checked their website they were still touting their association with Dale.

The only way I got my money back was to bad mouth them on the IS300 forums.

BTW: Dale Davis is supposedly an officer in the USN (according to a post on the IS300 forums). You could try contacting NCIS (Naval Criminal Investigative Service) if you think you were robbed.
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yes, the strut bars made a great great difference.

With stock suspension and 18 inch wheels on my car, the ride of the car was good but wasn't quite right. After the installation of the sturt bars, the car now feels very close and competitive to those German cars!! However, the most important thing that the bars changed was the fact that now fast and sharp cornering are much much and much(!!!) more predictable and controllable even with stock suspension. Not to mention that the interior of the car doesn't squeak like before. So if you are picky about the ride quality, want the big wheels, and you don't want to drop your car, this is a must buy for you!!

Fun92: No, unlike the $30 prelude bars, you simply won't be able to bent the MLS bars with your bare hands.(my brother in law tried, he wanted to test MLS's quality) These are composed of two rounded bars(remember the volks wagen commercial?) with not movable bases. Using this bar as a handle, I can shake the entire car(I did, was checking for tightness of the log nuts) and the handle doesn't bent/flex at all.
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so would these bars that are being fabricated be identical to those made by mls... also has anyone tried both the prelude struts bar and the mls ones.. please comment on the differences. as of now im going the prelude route because 245 is just way too mcuh ..
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very cool, do you know what it's made out of? I may have to build one myself.
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Sorry, but I have no idea what the MLS were made out of since they didn't mention it in their page. Here's the direct link to the MLS Page:

http://www.mls12.com/kodawariaitemu.htm

The first picture is the MLS twintower sturt bar mounted on the KA7 sedan, the second picture shows how the bars contact the mounting plate. Note picture 6 and 7, those are the typical $30 prelude ones that are not soldered/molded into one piece and are typically made for smaller/lighter cars that are unlike ours.

Also, you should ask grame directly about the replicas because I'm not involved in this deal.
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We have been assured by the fabricator that the strut bars will meet, if not exceed the tolerances and quality of the MLS strut bars. As far as looks, they will be identical.

Brian, you know, it's funny that you mentioned the German car reference because that was exactly what I was thinking. Driving around in the 540 and my Legend, I couldn't quite pinpoint the difference, but after installing the strut bar, it actually feels BMW solid.
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Where is the fabricator located? I suppose I'd be willing to use my car as a donor, but theres no way I can drive more than a hundred miles or so until spring break...
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yes, the strut bars made a great great difference.

With stock suspension and 18 inch wheels on my car, the ride of the car was good but wasn't quite right. After the installation of the sturt bars, the car now feels very close and competitive to those German cars!! However, the most important thing that the bars changed was the fact that now fast and sharp cornering are much much and much(!!!) more predictable and controllable even with stock suspension. Not to mention that the interior of the car doesn't squeak like before. So if you are picky about the ride quality, want the big wheels, and you don't want to drop your car, this is a must buy for you!!

Fun92: No, unlike the $30 prelude bars, you simply won't be able to bent the MLS bars with your bare hands.(my brother in law tried, he wanted to test MLS's quality) These are composed of two rounded bars(remember the volks wagen commercial?) with not movable bases. Using this bar as a handle, I can shake the entire car(I did, was checking for tightness of the log nuts) and the handle doesn't bent/flex at all.
You described my sentiments about the strut bar exactly. It's a quality unit. Too bad there aren't more upgrades like this for the Legend.

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Lightbulb STRUT BARS!!!!!!!!!

Has anyone thought about asking Alexi if we can give this company the blue prints to the strut tower bars he made for his G1 sedan I'm sure they can be made to fit the G1 coupe as well. If not than are they going to make these strut bars for the front and rear for G1s as well?
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Has anyone thought about asking Alexi if we can give this company the blue prints to the strut tower bars he made for his G1 sedan I'm sure they can be made to fit the G1 coupe as well. If not than are they going to make these strut bars for the front and rear for G1s as well?
The plans for Alexei's strut bar are available at his site. If he's willing, we may be able to use those dimensions to work on something for the G1s. We'll have to talk to both Alexei and the fabricator about this.
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Here are a few pics of the MLS strut bar.





And this is what it looks like installed.

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