What Would You Like to See Next from Blackend Motorsports? - Page 2

Alperovich · 05-15-07, 11:35 AM

mmmmm....droool....adjustable endlinks.........

blkonblkcpe · 05-15-07, 12:50 PM

Motor mounts for NSX block.

No, seriously though, the big brake kit will be awesome! Can't wait........

mrkeith · 05-15-07, 02:00 PM

Energy Suspension is nearby my place. I don't mind driving down there--no problem.

Big brake kits and CAIs are a waste of R&D effort because both already exist, and let's face it; Wilwood, Brembo, and Stoptech make top-notch applications for the Legend, and we might only stand to gain another whp or two with a more efficient CAI. None of this seems worth the time investment to me, but it's your company and your call.

If I was you, I would be spending time to R&D newfangled parts: bushings, suspension arms, chassis braces, plastic intake manifolds, under carriage diffusers (this is so simple and effective; let's do it!), etc... I need to get those pictures of the Elise to you.

k.

Alperovich · 05-15-07, 02:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mrkeith

Energy Suspension is nearby my place. I don't mind driving down there--no problem.

Big brake kits and CAIs are a waste of R&D effort because both already exist, and let's face it; Wilwood, Brembo, and Stoptech make top-notch applications for the Legend, and we might only stand to gain another whp or two with a more efficient CAI. None of this seems worth the time investment to me, but it's your company and your call.

If I was you, I would be spending time to R&D newfangled parts: bushings, suspension arms, chassis braces, plastic intake manifolds, under carriage diffusers (this is so simple and effective; let's do it!), etc... I need to get those pictures of the Elise to you.

k.

bbk is worth it b/c he said he can produce that at a fraction of the cost. thats quite worth it for us non-rich ppl you would like to have a bbk but not pay 3k for a set.

CIA, might not be worth it, however there isn't one out there and ppl do want them don't they...

Blackend · 05-15-07, 03:15 PM

Yeah - I'm thinking a BBK for around $1200 would be a nice alternative for some of us.

I will try to reach out to ES this week and see if they'd be willing to look at it, or exactly what they would need.

mrkeith · 05-15-07, 05:37 PM

Quality BBKs are expensive because they're not cheap to manufacture. If the reason your kit is cheaper is because the rotors are single piece and the calipers are smaller, then that's cool; however, if it's because the caliper pistons aren't sleeved and forged, and the rotors are made of Chinese metals then people should think twice about what they're paying (or not paying) for.

That's sort of off-topic, though. I'm just writing to persuade you to be more revelatory with your Legend endeavors; that's all. There are all these non-existant goodies in the Legend world that would be leaps forward in terms of modernizing our cars (I mentioned some in my previous post). Concentrating efforts there should prove more fruitful than reinventing the wheel.

Go ahead and flame me, guys. You won't change my opinion.

antik · 05-15-07, 05:45 PM

MrKeith does have a fantastic point. I can say that if I'm going to do a BBK, I'd drop the $3k but I'm too cheap for either the $1200 system or the $3000 system (until I've got way more money then I have now).

So far, I've been very excited for the new gear because it's all new. I like that trend a lot!

MoisTiCaL · 05-15-07, 05:50 PM

Definitely Adjustable Sway Bar Endlinks - Front and Rear.

BBK, would be very nice. I'm still regretting not getting on Keith's G/B last year. That was a nice discount.

sr5guy · 05-15-07, 06:17 PM

L-E-G-E-N-D Silkscreened Condoms.

-Matt

Blackend · 05-15-07, 06:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sr5guy

L-E-G-E-N-D Silkscreened Condoms.

-Matt

I've heard that certain parties may not like ink being inserted into their...uh....wells

sr5guy · 05-15-07, 06:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Blackend

I've heard that certain parties may not like ink being inserted into their...uh....wells

No silly.. on the wrapper.

http://www.promopeddler.com/Detail/63253/CONDL

-Matt

Blackend · 05-15-07, 06:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sr5guy

No silly.. on the wrapper.

http://www.promopeddler.com/Detail/63253/CONDL

-Matt

LOL! That's better than sending a sticker with each order

I'll have to look into that a little further...

Alperovich · 05-15-07, 07:14 PM

i have a request!

a sick flip out key.... [its been known to add 3-100 ponies depending on application]

misdeismo · 05-15-07, 11:00 PM

I would like to see more suspension modifications like the adjustable camber/toe adjustment pieces. Also, more aero parts like front/rear diffusers (carbon fiber if possible) that have a nice oem aftermarket look.

A TORSEN LSD would be nice (Quaife?).

Aliskerov · 05-15-07, 11:05 PM

Are you working on suspension stuff only or would you be able to do engine components too? If yes (wether it's you or someone else who wants to be a supplier) then here they come:

Headers + y pipe
Cam gears
Cam shafts
Lightened pulleys (same size as stock)
Lightened flywheel (would be the sh*t!!! I'd love to see this for a Legend)
Lightweight driveshaft

I know some of this is major stuff, but alot of people tend to forget that it's not just the power of the engine, it's how it gets to the ground-if all the components are light, then that means more power AND better throttle response (plus every mod will be used to it's fulest potential). If we can convince certain companies to make the above, the legend can move up the latter of preformance luxury.

05-15-07, 11:35 AM	#16 (permalink)
Alperovich I'm the Stig! Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Highland park, il Posts: 13,984 Car 1: 94 DM GS Car 2: 93 Coupe LS 6SPD :( Car 3: 99 2.3CL 5spd iTrader: (19)	mmmmm....droool....adjustable endlinks......... __________________ ~Alex \

05-15-07, 12:50 PM	#17 (permalink)
blkonblkcpe From my cold dead hands! Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Minnesota Posts: 9,870 Car 1: 91 LS Black window trim EDM/Hids Remus 2 1/2 cat back Headers stage 3 ecu Car 2: ,Red tails, Type 2 Car 3: 6 speed, EDM spoiler iTrader: (35)	Motor mounts for NSX block. No, seriously though, the big brake kit will be awesome! Can't wait........ __________________ 300,000miles and climbing!

05-15-07, 02:00 PM	#18 (permalink)
mrkeith dealer-opted track pack Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: look behind you Posts: 3,517 Car 1: ka8 Car 2: chevro-legs iTrader: (2)	Energy Suspension is nearby my place. I don't mind driving down there--no problem. Big brake kits and CAIs are a waste of R&D effort because both already exist, and let's face it; Wilwood, Brembo, and Stoptech make top-notch applications for the Legend, and we might only stand to gain another whp or two with a more efficient CAI. None of this seems worth the time investment to me, but it's your company and your call. If I was you, I would be spending time to R&D newfangled parts: bushings, suspension arms, chassis braces, plastic intake manifolds, under carriage diffusers (this is so simple and effective; let's do it!), etc... I need to get those pictures of the Elise to you. k. __________________ The performance handling machine... If you've got coil-overs, corner-balance them! Please protect our environment: use a high-flow.

05-15-07, 03:15 PM	#20 (permalink)
Blackend Blackend Motorsports Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: DFW Area Posts: 4,127 Car 1: Blackend Motorsports Car 2: 1995 LS Coupe iTrader: (23)	Yeah - I'm thinking a BBK for around $1200 would be a nice alternative for some of us. I will try to reach out to ES this week and see if they'd be willing to look at it, or exactly what they would need. __________________ NALM NAZI We Brought Them We Broke Them We WILL Rebuild Them Better! G2 Legend Engine Dampers NOW IN STOCK! Click Here!

05-15-07, 05:37 PM	#21 (permalink)
mrkeith dealer-opted track pack Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: look behind you Posts: 3,517 Car 1: ka8 Car 2: chevro-legs iTrader: (2)	Quality BBKs are expensive because they're not cheap to manufacture. If the reason your kit is cheaper is because the rotors are single piece and the calipers are smaller, then that's cool; however, if it's because the caliper pistons aren't sleeved and forged, and the rotors are made of Chinese metals then people should think twice about what they're paying (or not paying) for. That's sort of off-topic, though. I'm just writing to persuade you to be more revelatory with your Legend endeavors; that's all. There are all these non-existant goodies in the Legend world that would be leaps forward in terms of modernizing our cars (I mentioned some in my previous post). Concentrating efforts there should prove more fruitful than reinventing the wheel. Go ahead and flame me, guys. You won't change my opinion. __________________ The performance handling machine... If you've got coil-overs, corner-balance them! Please protect our environment: use a high-flow.

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05-15-07, 05:45 PM	#22 (permalink)
antik Obsessive Enthusiast Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Northern VA Posts: 3,527 Car 1: 98.5 BMW M3 Coupe 5MT Car 2: 95 L Sedan Car 3: 95 6MT Coupe (Dad's) iTrader: (5)	MrKeith does have a fantastic point. I can say that if I'm going to do a BBK, I'd drop the $3k but I'm too cheap for either the $1200 system or the $3000 system (until I've got way more money then I have now). So far, I've been very excited for the new gear because it's all new. I like that trend a lot! __________________ Canterbury Green '95 Auto L Sedan ADDCO \| MLS \| KNUKONCEPTZ \| ALPINE \| ECLIPSE \| JL AUDIO \| BOSTON ACOUSTICS might be selling: pm me if you're interested in a well cared for, well running, high mileage sedan

05-15-07, 05:50 PM	#23 (permalink)
MoisTiCaL MasTa BaYTer Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: St. Petersburg Posts: 1,866 Car 1: 1994 Leg iTrader: (43)	Definitely Adjustable Sway Bar Endlinks - Front and Rear. BBK, would be very nice. I'm still regretting not getting on Keith's G/B last year. That was a nice discount.

05-15-07, 07:14 PM	#28 (permalink)
Alperovich I'm the Stig! Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Highland park, il Posts: 13,984 Car 1: 94 DM GS Car 2: 93 Coupe LS 6SPD :( Car 3: 99 2.3CL 5spd iTrader: (19)	i have a request! a sick flip out key.... [its been known to add 3-100 ponies depending on application] __________________ ~Alex \

05-15-07, 11:00 PM	#29 (permalink)
misdeismo Registered User Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Queens, NY Posts: 854 Car 1: '95LS Milano Red 6spd Coupe iTrader: (3)	I would like to see more suspension modifications like the adjustable camber/toe adjustment pieces. Also, more aero parts like front/rear diffusers (carbon fiber if possible) that have a nice oem aftermarket look. A TORSEN LSD would be nice (Quaife?). __________________

05-15-07, 11:05 PM	#30 (permalink)
Aliskerov Registered User Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: New Jersey Posts: 59 iTrader: (0)	Are you working on suspension stuff only or would you be able to do engine components too? If yes (wether it's you or someone else who wants to be a supplier) then here they come: Headers + y pipe Cam gears Cam shafts Lightened pulleys (same size as stock) Lightened flywheel (would be the sh*t!!! I'd love to see this for a Legend) Lightweight driveshaft I know some of this is major stuff, but alot of people tend to forget that it's not just the power of the engine, it's how it gets to the ground-if all the components are light, then that means more power AND better throttle response (plus every mod will be used to it's fulest potential). If we can convince certain companies to make the above, the legend can move up the latter of preformance luxury.

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