4x Tranny Flush by Gil

Ben Hedrington · 04-17-02, 10:24 PM

Total stuff needed:
(1) Bottle of smart blend ( Black Bottle)
(I used Lube Guard from NAPA for $11.00)

(4) quarts of "F" type Trans fluid
(7) quarts of Dextron fluid
(4) quarts of Genuine Honda fluid

Time to play with your car.......

1. Drain the fluid and add 3.5 quarts of "F" type fluid. F-fluid (ATF) is what is used in Ford transmissions. It has a very high detergent base to it that is designed to clean the internal parts and to break down varnish build up.

2. Drive the car around for several miles and then drain it again . I do not recommend that you leave the F-type fluid in the car for an
extended time.

3. Now having drained the fluid refill the unit with 3.5 qt's of
Dextron II or III and again drive the car around for a few miles
working the Dextron in. While you are doing this what you are
actually doing is diluting the F-type fluid and flushing the dirty fluid
out of the converter at the same time.

4. Return to the driveway and dump the fluid again and

5. repeat the process again. (Steps 3-4)

6. Now , having returned once again , you have drained one last
time. At this point what little F-type fluid that was left has been
drastically diluted and the majority of what you have left is Dextron.

7. Now fill the tranny up with Genuine Honda ATF . Honda fluid has
a high silicone base to it and that is what will keep your tranny
shifting smooth. You now have 3.5 quarts of Honda fluid mixed in
with about 5qts of Dextron mixed with .5 qts of F type fluid (Mix) .
Not enough to hurt a thing. Now to even things out and bring us all
back to Basic Honda fluid , get a bottle of a product called "Smart
Blend" It's made by a company called "Life Products" Be sure to
get the Black bottle as it is specially designed to convert Dextron
over to Honda fluid, this is a product that we endorse, and use it in
all our transmissions through out the building process. If you can't
find it then try Lube Guard , and again use the Black bottle. Both
products have red bottles and I thin also a Blue one too?

8. Pour one full bottle of Smart Blend into the tranny and you're set. Smart blend reduces operating temps as well as is a friction modifier that will reduce clutch pack chatter as well as help with converter lock up. Now the reason you start with the F type fluid is to clean . Then you use Dextron to dilute the F-type (Ford) and besides to dump that much Honda fluid just to flush would be a
sin, not to mention costly as all get up.

**502 MotorSports** · 04-18-02, 07:59 AM

good to have this in plain view...now we don't have to hunt it down

BiGJoE · 04-27-02, 07:32 PM

How much did all that fluid cost you? And about how long did it take??

Ben Hedrington · 05-01-02, 11:26 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Leon Millette
good to have this in plain view...now we don't have to hunt it down

(1) Lube Guard from NAPA @ ~$12.00 ea. = $12.00
(4) quarts of "F" type Trans fluid @ ~$1.90 ea. = $7.60
(7) quarts of Dextron fluid @ ~$1.90ea. = $13.30
(4) quarts of Genuine Honda fluid @ ~ $5.00 ea. (depends on dealer, buy at honda not acura for lowest price) = $20.00

About $53 as listed, this originally was written by Gil a member that owns a transmission shop and is very knowledgeable about Legends.

This is a good alternative because some members have had tranny problems after power flushes, supposedly there is a TSB telling all dealers not to power flush our trannys.

-Ben

WhiteLegend · 05-15-02, 12:05 PM

couple questions

where can I get the F type fluid and dextron fluid?

Also do Honda only has one kind of ATF? So I can just go into a Honda dealership and ask for 4 quarts of Honda ATF, wouldn't they ask what kind of car I have?

Thanks

Ben Hedrington · 05-17-02, 12:45 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by WhiteLegend
couple questions

where can I get the F type fluid and dextron fluid?

Any car parst store, or even Wal-Mart.

Quote:

[i]Also do Honda only has one kind of ATF? So I can just go into a Honda dealership and ask for 4 quarts of Honda ATF, wouldn't they ask what kind of car I have?
[/b]

Only one type of ATF it's called Honda ATF Z1

-Ben

mYbabYLeGend · 08-14-02, 04:23 PM

Is it a bad idea just drain the tranny fluid. Then add the honda fluid after that pour the bottle of smart blend. Can i just do that?
-hass
thanks

92L Coupe · 08-16-02, 12:15 AM

atf doesnt stand for automatic transmition fluid does it? this is safe for maunal trans?

Jiggy89LS · 08-28-02, 01:17 AM

ATF = Automatic Transmission Fluid

And I believe there is only 1 kind of honda ATF at the dealer. I was able to get it for $3 and change for each quart. What im thinking is that instead of doing that flush, why not just drain and refill with honda atf in a short period and then add the smart blend. Thats what I did with 2 atf changes within a week or two.

ChrisK · 08-31-02, 07:40 AM

When exactly did Gills tranny fluid drain and refill become a 4X deal?

As far as I remember (I could be wrong though) he had always said 3X. IF I'm not mistaken, somehow someone added an extra drain and fill into his coined method of tranny fluid replacement. Am I wrong?

Ben Hedrington · 09-03-02, 11:38 AM

Here is the info I used to complie the tranny flush. I just re formated it for easier reading.

-Ben

Roger · 09-16-02, 01:57 AM

is the bottle of Bottle of smart blend important to the process?? cause i cant find it anywhere

Nick T · 10-15-02, 02:39 PM

Roger,
You can get the Lube Guard ( as Ben stated ) at NAPA autoparts, it's the same thing as Smart Blend but costs more. Be sure to use the "Black" bottle after your flush to "upgrade" any Dextron you might have left in the tranny to Honda ATF standards. For future ATF changes w/o the flush, you can add a bottle of Lube Guard OR Smart Blend "Red" bottle which is designed to further reduce cluth chatter and heat.

claus44 · 11-26-03, 02:37 PM

Just to add that if you can't find smart blend at your local shops, you can call the manufacturer to ask for your local distributors or simply order it from their web site.

http://www.lifeautomotive.com

cheapest that I can find online is

http://www.bulkpart.com

Legendcoupeguy94 · 01-25-04, 03:22 AM

ok...thanks for the instructions on changing the Trans Fluid.
now my q is....anybody have pics on this how to??

1. where and which nut do i take off to drain under the Transmission??
2. Is there any filter i need to change??
3. I take it i need to lift the car off the ground enough for me to go under the car to access the Tranmission?? correct?
4. Is there pictorial on this how to??

anyone that responed.....thanks

my car : '94 white Legend coupe ..AUTO

04-17-02, 10:24 PM	#1 (permalink)
Ben Hedrington Registered User Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Jordan. MN Posts: 117 Car 1: 1992 Pearl White Sedan iTrader: (0)	4x Tranny Flush by Gil Total stuff needed: (1) Bottle of smart blend ( Black Bottle) (I used Lube Guard from NAPA for $11.00) (4) quarts of "F" type Trans fluid (7) quarts of Dextron fluid (4) quarts of Genuine Honda fluid Time to play with your car....... 1. Drain the fluid and add 3.5 quarts of "F" type fluid. F-fluid (ATF) is what is used in Ford transmissions. It has a very high detergent base to it that is designed to clean the internal parts and to break down varnish build up. 2. Drive the car around for several miles and then drain it again . I do not recommend that you leave the F-type fluid in the car for an extended time. 3. Now having drained the fluid refill the unit with 3.5 qt's of Dextron II or III and again drive the car around for a few miles working the Dextron in. While you are doing this what you are actually doing is diluting the F-type fluid and flushing the dirty fluid out of the converter at the same time. 4. Return to the driveway and dump the fluid again and 5. repeat the process again. (Steps 3-4) 6. Now , having returned once again , you have drained one last time. At this point what little F-type fluid that was left has been drastically diluted and the majority of what you have left is Dextron. 7. Now fill the tranny up with Genuine Honda ATF . Honda fluid has a high silicone base to it and that is what will keep your tranny shifting smooth. You now have 3.5 quarts of Honda fluid mixed in with about 5qts of Dextron mixed with .5 qts of F type fluid (Mix) . Not enough to hurt a thing. Now to even things out and bring us all back to Basic Honda fluid , get a bottle of a product called "Smart Blend" It's made by a company called "Life Products" Be sure to get the Black bottle as it is specially designed to convert Dextron over to Honda fluid, this is a product that we endorse, and use it in all our transmissions through out the building process. If you can't find it then try Lube Guard , and again use the Black bottle. Both products have red bottles and I thin also a Blue one too? 8. Pour one full bottle of Smart Blend into the tranny and you're set. Smart blend reduces operating temps as well as is a friction modifier that will reduce clutch pack chatter as well as help with converter lock up. Now the reason you start with the F type fluid is to clean . Then you use Dextron to dilute the F-type (Ford) and besides to dump that much Honda fluid just to flush would be a sin, not to mention costly as all get up.

04-18-02, 07:59 AM	#2 (permalink)
502 MotorSports 502MotorSports.com Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: ATLVILLE Posts: 9,391 Car 1: e39 540i Car 2: e46 325xi \| e46 330i Car 3: S430 iTrader: (0)	thanks good to have this in plain view...now we don't have to hunt it down __________________ The Hotness! Elevate Your Standards.... Legend Mod Money! Jasmyn \| 502MS Project e39 \| 502MotorSports MySpace

04-27-02, 07:32 PM	#3 (permalink)
BiGJoE Registered User Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Bay Area, Cali Posts: 188 Car 1: 93 coupe L iTrader: (0)	How much? How much did all that fluid cost you? And about how long did it take??

05-15-02, 12:05 PM	#5 (permalink)
WhiteLegend Registered User Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Ann Arbor and East Lansing, MI Posts: 3,740 Car 1: 94 Milano Red LS coupe 6spd iTrader: (0)	couple questions where can I get the F type fluid and dextron fluid? Also do Honda only has one kind of ATF? So I can just go into a Honda dealership and ask for 4 quarts of Honda ATF, wouldn't they ask what kind of car I have? Thanks __________________ 94 Milano Red LS coupe 6 speed 94 Pearl White LS Sedan (sold ) http://www.msu.edu/~weizhou/Mylegend/sig5.jpg

08-14-02, 04:23 PM	#7 (permalink)
mYbabYLeGend Sexy Member Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: MI Posts: 7,522 Car 1: 91 l sedan Car 2: 94 gs sedan--sold Car 3: 97 sc300 iTrader: (0)	Is it a bad idea just drain the tranny fluid. Then add the honda fluid after that pour the bottle of smart blend. Can i just do that? -hass thanks __________________ RIP ZAK <----master of the unibrow Im carrying Darriths baby -da hass man http://www.acura-legend.com/gallery/file.php?n=169&w=l 91 L sedan- few mods 94 Gs- sold 97 Sc300-stock for now

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08-16-02, 12:15 AM	#8 (permalink)
92L Coupe Registered User Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: NY, Strong Island Posts: 473 Car 1: 92 L coupe iTrader: (0)	dumb ? atf doesnt stand for automatic transmition fluid does it? this is safe for maunal trans?

08-28-02, 01:17 AM	#9 (permalink)
Jiggy89LS God Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Queens, New York Posts: 877 Car 1: 89 LS Coupe \| 95 Maxima GLE iTrader: (0)	ATF = Automatic Transmission Fluid And I believe there is only 1 kind of honda ATF at the dealer. I was able to get it for $3 and change for each quart. What im thinking is that instead of doing that flush, why not just drain and refill with honda atf in a short period and then add the smart blend. Thats what I did with 2 atf changes within a week or two. __________________ http://www.mobile-monster.co.uk/images/borat.jpg WHAAAAAAAAAAAT

08-31-02, 07:40 AM	#10 (permalink)
ChrisK 0000$$$$0000####0000 Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Hawaii Posts: 4,963 Car 1: Acura iTrader: (0)	When exactly did Gills tranny fluid drain and refill become a 4X deal? As far as I remember (I could be wrong though) he had always said 3X. IF I'm not mistaken, somehow someone added an extra drain and fill into his coined method of tranny fluid replacement. Am I wrong?

09-03-02, 11:38 AM	#11 (permalink)
Ben Hedrington Registered User Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Jordan. MN Posts: 117 Car 1: 1992 Pearl White Sedan iTrader: (0)	Here is the info I used to complie the tranny flush. Here is the info I used to complie the tranny flush. I just re formated it for easier reading. -Ben

09-16-02, 01:57 AM	#12 (permalink)
Roger Registered User Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: East Lansing, Mi Posts: 4,267 Car 1: 1995 Acura Legend GS iTrader: (0)	is the bottle of Bottle of smart blend important to the process?? cause i cant find it anywhere __________________ 1995 Legend GS (sherwood Green) 144,000 My ride http://www.cardomain.com/memberpage/608014

10-15-02, 02:39 PM	#13 (permalink)
Nick T Registered User Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: AZ Posts: 308 Car 1: 1991 LS Coupe \| 1993 Lexus SC400 iTrader: (0)	Roger, You can get the Lube Guard ( as Ben stated ) at NAPA autoparts, it's the same thing as Smart Blend but costs more. Be sure to use the "Black" bottle after your flush to "upgrade" any Dextron you might have left in the tranny to Honda ATF standards. For future ATF changes w/o the flush, you can add a bottle of Lube Guard OR Smart Blend "Red" bottle which is designed to further reduce cluth chatter and heat.

11-26-03, 02:37 PM	#14 (permalink)
claus44 Rally *ar Needed!! Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Temple City, CA Posts: 853 Car 1: now buckled up in SC400 iTrader: (0)	Just to add that if you can't find smart blend at your local shops, you can call the manufacturer to ask for your local distributors or simply order it from their web site. http://www.lifeautomotive.com cheapest that I can find online is http://www.bulkpart.com Last edited by claus44 : 11-26-03 at 02:53 PM.

01-25-04, 03:22 AM	#15 (permalink)
Legendcoupeguy94 Registered User Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: WA Posts: 90 Car 1: '94 Legend Coupe Pearl white iTrader: (0)	clueless when it comes to Transmission ok...thanks for the instructions on changing the Trans Fluid. now my q is....anybody have pics on this how to?? 1. where and which nut do i take off to drain under the Transmission?? 2. Is there any filter i need to change?? 3. I take it i need to lift the car off the ground enough for me to go under the car to access the Tranmission?? correct? 4. Is there pictorial on this how to?? anyone that responed.....thanks my car : '94 white Legend coupe ..AUTO

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