LegendGS

The reason for the short drain intervals is due to the high detergent content of the F-Type transmission fluid. You don't want to run that in the car for too long. It is used simply for its cleaning ability. The quick fluid drains with Dexron after that is simply to dilute it and get it out of the transmission. Dexron is recommended because it's a lot less expensive to dump this than it would be if you used genuine Honda fluid.

If you're going to be using Honda stuff throughout, then you can bascially run it for as long as you want. It might not do an equal job at cleaning the transmission though.

1_Hot_Legend_LS

Well I get an Employee Discount at Fountain Acura. I have about 4 cases of Acura ATZ-Z1 in the garage so I'm not worried about using it. As far as keeping the tranny and fluid clean I'm gonna be using a Chevy S-10 filter relocation kit and a Saturn screw on tranny filter. Not to mention I'mn adding on a 10" x 12" trans cooler in the lower valance of the front bumper.

LegendGS

The purpose of the F-Type fluid isn't to keep the transmission or fluid clean, but to clean the transmission of build-up.

No harm will come from not using it, but using it is where the cleaning effects come into play.

1_Hot_Legend_LS

But with the needle type bearings in our trannies we don't have to worry about varnish. We have to worry about organic clutch pack wear. Our trannies are built very similar to chrysler/Mercedes trannies. This is why our trannies require a fluid with additives. Hell, honda made the tranny for the 93-97 Dodge Intrepids. Take a peak under an intrepid and look really close at the tranny. If you were gonna rack the tranny open and do a show then by all means use the type-F. But it is not needed.

LegendGS

Umm.. No one is saying that you have to do it this way. This method was recommended by a prominent Honda/Acura transmission rebuilder/supplier who used to be a member of this community as a safer alternative to power flushing.

This method is for those who are thinking of doing a power flush (i.e. for those who want to clean the transmission and replace all of the fluid.)

If all you want to do is to replace the fluid, then a repeated drain and fill will suffice.

1_Hot_Legend_LS

I know some people aren't as Mechnically inlined as others. So I'm gonna post a pic of where the drain plug is for the tranny. This plug comes out ith just a 3/8" ratchet with no socket. Please remember to clean the magnet on the plug with brake/parts cleaner and a rag before reinstalling.

maytagman

ok i cant find lubeguard or smart blend...
the napa people here are assholes/idiots...

but i did happen to find gunk transmedic...
http://www.midwayautosupply.com/deta...ription.asp?56
"Helps eliminate slippage, down-shifting, rough shifting, sluggish action and gear whine. Reduces friction. Will not drain off, sqeeze off or burn off frictional surfaces."
i think this is similar to lubegard red...

also wynn's transformer looks to be the exact same as smart blend:
http://www.wynnsusa.com/pdf/spec-she...ransFormer.pdf
hopefully i can order/find some of it...

edit:
i just found a tranny shop who carries lubegard (its lubegard not lubeguard) so they are going to order a bottle of the friction modifier in.
if anyone in ontario cant find it i may be able to get it cheap... i will let you guys know the price

edit2:
ok so today i was going to do the 4x flush but i wont have the lubegard until tuesday or so. will the CLEAN dexron III and honda atf be better than my dirty black atf? shouldnt hurt for a day or two, will it?

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maytagman

alternate tranny flush method:

my mechanic just suggested this method...
disconnect the two tranny cooler lines from the rad.
fill a bucket with atf and stick the return line into the bucket.
get an empty bucket and put the send line into it.
run the car and watch until the fluid that comes out is clear.
apparently his old shop had a machine that did basically this.
im sure a bucket of dexron would suffice. walmart sells it for about $35 for a bucket i think? (canadian dollars)
then i guess you would drain and fill with honda and lubegard/smart blend.
anyone want to try this?
maytag

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bicball

I was talking to my teacher and he was telling me that doing a transmission flush can cause more slippage because the rough stuff floating in the fluid will give the clutch plates more friction, is this a problem?

Also, my transmission doesn't really slip, but when I accelerate there is a jerk when the car shifts. Every time I come off a stop sign it jerks from 1 to 2 and 2 to 3, is this something that doing a tranny flush will solve?

koolaid

The 1-2 jerk is usually tranny mounts, also replacing the transmission filter and fluid with genuine honda atf helps a ton, I did that, and my tranny shifts smooth as hell.

1_Hot_Legend_LS

What filter? We aint got no filter. All we have is a stupid screen!

Honda

koolaid

filter screen, to me same thing, both filter particles out of the fluid.

1_Hot_Legend_LS

Hoda still should have at least put an external screw on filter on the side of the tranny like the saturns. I had to do this to mine myself, I didn't like not having a filter on my tranny.

bicball

thanks for the info, i'll have to look in the manual and then stick it up on a lift and take a look to see if they're broken.

is this what i want to be looking at?
http://www.arnach.net/service/index....1&z=1371&y=320

petthepeep

Great DIY...this really helped out!!