Big Freakin' Problem!!!!

l4zy415 · 07-02-08, 07:21 PM

Alrighty, my car is starting to scare the shit out of me. Everytime I take off from a light or at a stop or even worse, stopped at a top hill and taking off. Everytime I take off I can feel the gears grinding badly on the first gear. After that, it runs fine from 2nd, 3rd, and 4th. It only does it when I take off. I'm wondering if the drive axles are done or do you guys think I need a new tranny? I just hope it doesn't fuck up on me.

BayAreasFinest · 07-02-08, 08:40 PM

damn thats crazy good look finding the problem

jmoser1981 · 07-02-08, 09:07 PM

Hows the fluid? In the tranny and in the cluch res.. cause If it were your drive axels it would be doing it all the time I would think.. I don't know man thats a hard one for me... Maybe first gear is going out...

Beeze · 07-02-08, 10:03 PM

Been doing any neutral to drive drops lately?...lol j/k
Sorry to here your trannys going...Time for a 5-speed!!!

KAHruzer · 07-02-08, 10:13 PM

All I can say is it's not the axles, IMO.

Been using Honda ATF Z1? Supposed to be required.
When it comes to tranny's, I'm everyone's baby sister, though.

*sam o nela* · 07-03-08, 12:57 AM

Yeah man that sounds bad if its only in one gear

When was the last time you changed out the fluid?

I wonder if a 1x change would help?

If so, then maybe a 4x flush might be the next logical choice with the end being Honda tranny fluid?

pnoye2 · 07-03-08, 02:26 AM

I've got two words for you James; torque converter... unfortunately, tranny removal is required to resolve this issue

It work something like this: Torque converter actual coupling speed only happens when the vehicle crest a hill <= your case James. Coupling is at that point between where the engine stops driving the wheels and the wheels start to drive the engine.

The rest of the time, there is up to about 10% slippage between the impeller and the turbine... slippage causes a cutting action on the tranny fluid, some tranny don't lock up the converter until high gear <= again, your case James.

Further more; in high gear, the gear ratio is 0.7 to 1, with this ratio and lower engine speed a standard converter would have more of a tendency to slip.

Though I'm hoping that my diagnosis is wrong... PM me if you have questions about the torque converter

l4zy415 · 07-03-08, 03:13 AM

Something new I just learned, thanks Ferj

And to answer your guys question, I replaced the oil last year, but I didn't use Honda Tranny oil, which is kinda my fault (shame on me). Well, now I'm gonna go buy some oil hopefully tomorrow. I'll take a quick video on how nasty the sound is.

BayAreasFinest · 07-03-08, 03:15 AM

^^^^^ damn seems like good info, hope that helps you out

Acidic · 07-06-08, 04:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Beeze

Been doing any neutral to drive drops lately?...lol j/k
Sorry to here your trannys going...Time for a 5-speed!!!

when isnt it? unless, you can go 6 ( so a few G2 guys dont chime in

lol )

hope you've found the problem and it wasnt as bad as thought.

l4zy415 · 07-06-08, 04:57 AM

First gear (which is an auto by the way) is still bad, but the rest of the gears are fine. I'm just gonna go buy another used tranny/rebuild, and replace it. I miss how my Legend used to ride. Found out my stimulus check is coming next week

. So with that money, I'll have one in no time.

bkbkbk420 · 07-06-08, 05:48 AM

ya its the transaxle i bet, my car did the same shit last year, find my old posts about it, mine had around 430km on it, when the tranny finally bit the dust, its all changed now though, my new one doesnt "pop" out of 2nd gear either, my old one did that for about 2 years

07-02-08, 07:21 PM	#1 (permalink)
l4zy415 FRISCO LEGEND BABY!!!! Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Frisco Cali Posts: 3,378 Car 1: 1988 Acura Legend Sedan iTrader: (4)	Big Freakin' Problem!!!! Alrighty, my car is starting to scare the shit out of me. Everytime I take off from a light or at a stop or even worse, stopped at a top hill and taking off. Everytime I take off I can feel the gears grinding badly on the first gear. After that, it runs fine from 2nd, 3rd, and 4th. It only does it when I take off. I'm wondering if the drive axles are done or do you guys think I need a new tranny? I just hope it doesn't fuck up on me. __________________ \18" Limited 341 Chrome Rims/\Matador Red Paint/\Weapon R - Secret Weapon Intake/\LED Bright White Dash Lights/Floor/\Kenwood KDC-X590 Excelon Mp3 Deck/\Ford Taurus Coin/Cup Holder/\2 12" Kickers/\1200 Watt Sony XM-2200GTX 2-Channel Xplod Amp/\2 Rockford Fosgate Capacitors/\Power Acoustic Capacitor/\Clear Rear Turn Signal/\Reverse Glow Gauges/\Swapped 88' Headlights to 89'-90'/\JDM Rear Chrome Trim/\Stromung Muffler/ Soon To Come: Rebuild Motor and 5-MT Swap

07-02-08, 08:40 PM	#2 (permalink)
BayAreasFinest Its a Legend baby Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Bay Area Posts: 805 Car 1: 1991 Auto iTrader: (6)	damn thats crazy good look finding the problem __________________ 1991 4 door auto 15.15 @ 91.17: CAI, EGR block plate ************************************** KA8 Vinyled Coupe Taillights http://www.acura-legend.com/vbulleti...3/#post1302298 ********************************************** ********

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jmoser1981 Got Legend! Join Date: May 2008 Location: Tracy, Ca Posts: 150 Car 1: '89 Acura Legend L (5speed) Car 2: '02 Durango R/T iTrader: (1)	Hows the fluid? In the tranny and in the cluch res.. cause If it were your drive axels it would be doing it all the time I would think.. I don't know man thats a hard one for me... Maybe first gear is going out... __________________ MY GAS HOG

07-02-08, 10:13 PM	#5 (permalink)
KAHruzer Moor Mo*h Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Soonerville Posts: 1,564 Car 1: 1987 Legend LS Coupe iTrader: (0)	All I can say is it's not the axles, IMO. Been using Honda ATF Z1? Supposed to be required. When it comes to tranny's, I'm everyone's baby sister, though. __________________ Stock 1987 Legend LS Coupe 180k (11/07)

07-03-08, 12:57 AM	#6 (permalink)
sam o nela CAP CAP M* F*R! Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: SoCal Posts: 9,143 Car 1: '87L, 5 speed Sedan Car 2: '71 Datsun PL521 iTrader: (10)	Yeah man that sounds bad if its only in one gear When was the last time you changed out the fluid? I wonder if a 1x change would help? If so, then maybe a 4x flush might be the next logical choice with the end being Honda tranny fluid? __________________ <Monocolor Paint Scheme> <JDM Clear Corners> <Cleared out Rear Turn Signals> <Acura Caliper Grill Emblem> <Independent Yellow Fog Mod> <15% Tint> <Iggee Seat Covers> <EL Reverse Glow Gauges> <Dimmer Mod> <Ford Taurus Cupholder Mod> <CC Tunk Light Mod> <Fut Short Throw Shifter> <Custom CAI> <AEM Bypass Valve> <OBX Headers> <Magnaflow High Flow Cat> <Dynomax Super Turbo Muffler> <Drilled/Slotted Rotors> <Painted Calipers> <Axxis Metal Master Pads>

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07-03-08, 02:26 AM	#7 (permalink)
pnoye2 Wowoweeee Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Laguna Hills, California Posts: 3,278 Car 1: '89 Sedan w/Auto (base model) iTrader: (0)	I've got two words for you James; torque converter... unfortunately, tranny removal is required to resolve this issue It work something like this: Torque converter actual coupling speed only happens when the vehicle crest a hill <= your case James. Coupling is at that point between where the engine stops driving the wheels and the wheels start to drive the engine. The rest of the time, there is up to about 10% slippage between the impeller and the turbine... slippage causes a cutting action on the tranny fluid, some tranny don't lock up the converter until high gear <= again, your case James. Further more; in high gear, the gear ratio is 0.7 to 1, with this ratio and lower engine speed a standard converter would have more of a tendency to slip. Though I'm hoping that my diagnosis is wrong... PM me if you have questions about the torque converter __________________ 291K+ miles; original power/drive trains

07-03-08, 03:13 AM	#8 (permalink)
l4zy415 FRISCO LEGEND BABY!!!! Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Frisco Cali Posts: 3,378 Car 1: 1988 Acura Legend Sedan iTrader: (4)	Something new I just learned, thanks Ferj And to answer your guys question, I replaced the oil last year, but I didn't use Honda Tranny oil, which is kinda my fault (shame on me). Well, now I'm gonna go buy some oil hopefully tomorrow. I'll take a quick video on how nasty the sound is. __________________ \18" Limited 341 Chrome Rims/\Matador Red Paint/\Weapon R - Secret Weapon Intake/\LED Bright White Dash Lights/Floor/\Kenwood KDC-X590 Excelon Mp3 Deck/\Ford Taurus Coin/Cup Holder/\2 12" Kickers/\1200 Watt Sony XM-2200GTX 2-Channel Xplod Amp/\2 Rockford Fosgate Capacitors/\Power Acoustic Capacitor/\Clear Rear Turn Signal/\Reverse Glow Gauges/\Swapped 88' Headlights to 89'-90'/\JDM Rear Chrome Trim/\Stromung Muffler/ Soon To Come: Rebuild Motor and 5-MT Swap

07-03-08, 03:15 AM	#9 (permalink)
BayAreasFinest Its a Legend baby Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Bay Area Posts: 805 Car 1: 1991 Auto iTrader: (6)	^^^^^ damn seems like good info, hope that helps you out __________________ 1991 4 door auto 15.15 @ 91.17: CAI, EGR block plate ************************************** KA8 Vinyled Coupe Taillights http://www.acura-legend.com/vbulleti...3/#post1302298 ********************************************** ********

07-06-08, 04:57 AM	#11 (permalink)
l4zy415 FRISCO LEGEND BABY!!!! Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Frisco Cali Posts: 3,378 Car 1: 1988 Acura Legend Sedan iTrader: (4)	First gear (which is an auto by the way) is still bad, but the rest of the gears are fine. I'm just gonna go buy another used tranny/rebuild, and replace it. I miss how my Legend used to ride. Found out my stimulus check is coming next week . So with that money, I'll have one in no time. __________________ \18" Limited 341 Chrome Rims/\Matador Red Paint/\Weapon R - Secret Weapon Intake/\LED Bright White Dash Lights/Floor/\Kenwood KDC-X590 Excelon Mp3 Deck/\Ford Taurus Coin/Cup Holder/\2 12" Kickers/\1200 Watt Sony XM-2200GTX 2-Channel Xplod Amp/\2 Rockford Fosgate Capacitors/\Power Acoustic Capacitor/\Clear Rear Turn Signal/\Reverse Glow Gauges/\Swapped 88' Headlights to 89'-90'/\JDM Rear Chrome Trim/\Stromung Muffler/ Soon To Come: Rebuild Motor and 5-MT Swap

07-06-08, 05:48 AM	#12 (permalink)
bkbkbk420 Registered User Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Thunder Bay, Canada Posts: 104 Car 1: 89 L Coupe (5-Speed) Car 2: 89 Coupe (5-Speed) Car 3: 79 F-100 Ranger iTrader: (0)	ya its the transaxle i bet, my car did the same shit last year, find my old posts about it, mine had around 430km on it, when the tranny finally bit the dust, its all changed now though, my new one doesnt "pop" out of 2nd gear either, my old one did that for about 2 years __________________ -5-speed (of course) -jdm c27a motor 50k -blue ngk 8mm wires, +4 plugs -venom 400 chip, k&n filter -always synthetic oil + 92 octane fuel -mp3 player w/3 10' subs -tinted windows -punched out cat, minor weight mods -http://www.cardomain.com/ride/2364057 http://www.cardomain.com/member_page...057_1_full.jpg

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