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Old 09-07-05, 09:55 PM   #1 (permalink)
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exhaust smells like kerosene...

i got this strong kerosene smell comming from my exaust every time i stop for a light or stop sign or anything and theres also alot of smoke comming out the exaust that must be vapor because it disapears quickly and water drips out my tail pipe. i havent been losing any fluids and not burning any either.

i think it smells exactly like kerosene, my girlfriend says it smells like gas.
ive tried switching gas brands and octanes but nothing happens, my exaust tips are rusting to pieces from the vapor. the car doesnt have any drivabilty issues except for vibration at idle
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your catylitic converter is damaged internally. or missing honeycombs.
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I don't have a cat and my exhaust seems pretty normal
we have enough fresh air in canada that we don't care about emissions (yet)
no corrosion on my muffler

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i get that smell too.
well smells like raw gas and i can only smell it if i'm like right next to the exhaust.
me and 1 hot is trying to solve this problem.
one person told me my rings are worn.
but i doubt that because from what i've been reading g1 bottom end engines are pretty tough and understressed...so what color smoke you get...
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I got the smell too and get whiteish/blueish smoke after idleing for a minute or so and if I rev to about 200 rpm outta 1st gear, the cluod will be quite thick....Im attributing the smoke to worn valve stems/seats, but I also think that the smell must be from the cat being affected by some sort of fuel problem...
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Hey, picked this up on FARK.com today....

"Adding acetone to gas = up to 35% better mileage"
http://www.lubedev.com/smartgas/faq.htm

...anyone ever done this?
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Old 09-08-05, 02:19 PM   #7 (permalink)
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Hey, picked this up on FARK.com today....

"Adding acetone to gas = up to 35% better mileage"
http://www.lubedev.com/smartgas/faq.htm

...anyone ever done this?
so who is up for experimenting?
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Did some quick calcs on the acetone thing:

THE ECONOMICS

One U.S. Gallon of Gasoline = $3.00

One 12oz bottle of Acetone = $3.00

Ten Gallons of Gasoline = $30.00

At 21MPG, that's 210 miles per tank (10 gal)
At 28MPG, that's 280 miles per tank (10 gal)

Add 3 oz to 10 gal = 1/4 bottle = $3.00/4 = $0.75

Making the price per gallon = $3.075 (or, 7.5 cents/gal)

Ten gallons, then = $30.75

IF MPG goes from 21 to 28 MPG, then cost per mile:

= $3.00/21 = $0.142857 / mile for gas alone
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= $3.075/28 = $0.10982 / mile for gas with acetone additive

and represents a 30% REDUCTION in COST
while IMPROVING performance by 33% in terms of MPG.

As such, the current fuel cost of $3.00/Gal. can be represented as $2.10/Gal.
(Imagine the lines at a gas station advertizing this price)

Did I mention it's better for your engine, too?
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Gentlemen we should leave this smartgas thingy alone and let the petrolium agency do all the research work for us, it makes you wonder though as to why this long term study/research is not widely accepted, those poeple gots hard facts to back it up!

Most gas here in SoCal have MTBE added...
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Kahruzer...I understand that the acetone may be good for the engine...but how is it on the O2 senosrs or the cat? It would suck save taht much on gas but be replacing those 3 parts every year....
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I don't know. I've been reading the stuff....

http://www.lubedev.com/smartgas/additive.htm

Over half a million miles on a 20-year old Ford Econoline would at least mean something. But, it doesn't have O2 sensors or cat. He's using it on cars which do, however.

One thing which sticks out in my mind is the guy's not selling anything. Perhaps he owns big shares in acetone stock or something. But, seems he's only providing info.

Go to the home page and start reading there: http://www.lubedev.com/smartgas/

and http://www.lubedev.com

He recommends testing as a basis for any claims. And, cautions with expectations as to overall mechanical conditions, quality of gas, etc. which does represent good scientific criteria.

Pnoey2, not to offend, but you have posted what appears to me to be the 'party' line from the oil industry.....any chance you are a representative? Just looking for disclaimers, should they be valid.

Heck, I haven't a clue as to whether the stuff works or not. Saw it and became curious. That's why I posted. To see if anyone had actually done it.

The next consideration would be to decide if trying it would do any harm.
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I've heard about the MPG increase, but I also heard of a detrimental side effect...wish I could remember what it was.
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If you use 20 gal a week, you're saving $1000/year on gas. That's $3K in 3 years. So, $100 for O2 sensors doesn't seem too out of line, IF that's even the case.
A cat would be $300. 10%

Take off 13% and you still saved $2600 in 3 years.
And, that's assuming the worst case. Which, if what I read is true, would not be so.
There's a strong case for it actually extending the life of all these components.
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None taken KAHruzer just voicen out my opinion, I'm just glad that somebody shows some interest with this thing and NO I'm NOT an oil rep but I know an individual that works out here in SoCal for Atlantic Rich Corporation "ARCO" oil refinery in the City of Long Beach and when I saw your post I called this individual about acetone for engines.

I got mix feedback... as 5speed mentioned, very good MPG but with lots concequencies so I left it at that, I'm going to try and purge some more info out of this individual and when I do I'll post it for you guys...
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i think its a fuel problem.
with me i checked my oil and it's still the same level.
plus if it was burning oil it would'nt hesitate sometimes
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