G2 Front Brake Calipers on a G1.... - Page 2

pnoye2 · 07-03-08, 10:50 PM

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Originally Posted by l4zy415

Oh shiet, Gabe is at it again.

Indeed he is... keep up the good work Gabe, I'll be following this very closely; as I too is curious of the outcome!!!

kotetu · 07-03-08, 10:57 PM

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Originally Posted by hondanews.com

Braking
The new four wheel disc brakes match the new Legend's higher performance and 60/40 weight distribution. Its ventilated front discs are 11.1in. (282mm) in diameter and 0.91in. (23mm) thick, up from 0.83in. (21mm). At the rear, the solid discs are now 11.1in. in diameter, up from 10.2in. (258mm).A new drumin- disc parking brake, replaces the former mechanical actuation of the rear calipers. Not only does this result a more powerful parking brake, but reduced clearance between pads and rotor improves brake pedal feel and allows shorter pedal travel.

kotetu · 07-03-08, 10:59 PM

the Prelude has 4 lug rotors all the way up to 1996 - they are 23mm 10.2 inch rotors. The 5G preludes are 5 luggers and are 23mm 11.1 inch rotors.

It LOOKS like to me that your 1G legends share the same brake specs as the 4G preludes. Is that right?

kotetu · 07-03-08, 11:02 PM

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BRAKES

Every Legend has four-wheel disc brakes. The vented front rotors on 1986-1987 sedans measure 10.3 inches (262mm) in diameter and the solid rear rotors measure 10.2 inches (259mm). Sedans from 1988-1990 and all coupes had 11-inch (280mm) rotors in the front and 10.16-inch (258mm) in the rear. ABS was available on upmarket models.

Honda Legend - Wikicars

Is this accurate?

l4zy415 · 07-03-08, 11:03 PM

Very clever kotetu, now thats some good info.

*sam o nela* · 07-03-08, 11:05 PM

Hmmm...problems already...the 2.7's diameter is also listed as 11.1"

Looks like the bracket is whats positioning it out...damn....well no need to get stuck...I can continue looking for rotors

but I still want to try the Prelude and/or G2 one just to be sure...

Also, the G2's drum in brake parking brake may prevent the rears from ever being used....but theres no harm in trying right!?

EDIT: Oh looks like you already noticed that to

l4zy415 · 07-03-08, 11:08 PM

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kotetu · 07-03-08, 11:12 PM

actually it looks like the 96 prelude VTEC is 4 lug, not 5. That should be a good rotor to search for!

kotetu · 07-03-08, 11:14 PM

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Originally Posted by sam o nela

Hmmm...problems already...the 2.7's diameter is also listed as 11.1"

Looks like the bracket is whats positioning it out...damn....well no need to get stuck...I can continue looking for rotors

but I still want to try the Prelude and/or G2 one just to be sure...

Also, the G2's drum in brake parking brake may prevent the rears from ever being used....but theres no harm in trying right!?

EDIT: Oh looks like you already noticed that to

This is an 11.1? what year and and how many doors on the car you are playing with?

*sam o nela* · 07-03-08, 11:22 PM

Dont know the year...but it was an L coupe....red on black leather too

Anyhow it is obvious that the calipers and pads are indeed larger than the G1 parts....however, according to all the data, the rotors should be the same diameter...

Not a problem...ingenuity is my copilot...

*sam o nela* · 07-03-08, 11:25 PM

I remember reading some article a while ago stating that a criticism for the G2 when it was new was that it should have had slightly larger brakes for the weight of the car...

kotetu · 07-03-08, 11:29 PM

take a measuring tape and find out if that is a 10.2/10.3 rotor. if so an 11.1 should fit nicely. then you need to measure the hat height and find out if the Prelude is the same.

One thing you could try is head over to Autozone/Napa/Pepboys and ask them to pull out a rotor for your model and year Legend and a 1996 Prelude VTEC and ask if you can hold them next to eachother.

*sam o nela* · 07-03-08, 11:30 PM

Not to hijack my own thread....but Kotetu did you guys know that the 99-04 RLs used 11.8" Rotors w/ 28mm thickness?

How different are the underpinnings of these cars compared to the G2s?

*sam o nela* · 07-03-08, 11:32 PM

Yeah I was thinking about rolling over to Autozone this weekend to compare...

I didnt bother to measure, but that coupe I was working on should have been 11.1"....but we'll see!

kotetu · 07-03-08, 11:33 PM

yes I knew that. AFAIK, the rotor bolts up, but I am pretty sure if you want to use a 2 pot caliper you have to make a bracket for it.

I'm looking into 13 inch rotors for my 4 pot 2005 RL calipers.

07-03-08, 10:59 PM	#18 (permalink)
kotetu 33mpg 6spd Coupe Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 3,507 Car 1: 95 LS Coupe 6spd Car 2: 94 L Cpe 6spd - sold Car 3: 98 Prelude - sold iTrader: (13)	the Prelude has 4 lug rotors all the way up to 1996 - they are 23mm 10.2 inch rotors. The 5G preludes are 5 luggers and are 23mm 11.1 inch rotors. It LOOKS like to me that your 1G legends share the same brake specs as the 4G preludes. Is that right? __________________ Inflation is your friend! I mean really, who doesn't want to own a $100,000 car? Last edited by kotetu : 07-03-08 at 11:13 PM.

07-03-08, 11:03 PM	#20 (permalink)
l4zy415 FRISCO LEGEND BABY!!!! Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Frisco Cali Posts: 3,918 Car 1: 1988 Acura Legend Sedan iTrader: (5)	Very clever kotetu, now thats some good info. __________________ \18" Limited 341 Chrome Rims/\Matador Red Paint/\Weapon R - Secret Weapon Intake/\LED Bright White Dash Lights/Floor/\Kenwood KDC-X590 Excelon Mp3 Deck/\Ford Taurus Coin/Cup Holder/\2 12" Kickers/\1200 Watt Sony XM-2200GTX 2-Channel Xplod Amp/\2 Rockford Fosgate Capacitors/\Power Acoustic Capacitor/\Clear Rear Turn Signal/\Reverse Glow Gauges/\Swapped 88' Headlights to 89'-90'/\JDM Rear Chrome Trim/\Stromung Muffler/ Soon To Come: Rebuild Motor and 5-MT Swap

07-03-08, 11:05 PM	#21 (permalink)
sam o nela CAP CAP M* F*R! Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: SoCal Posts: 9,318 Car 1: '87L, 5 speed Sedan Car 2: '71 Datsun PL521 iTrader: (10)	Hmmm...problems already...the 2.7's diameter is also listed as 11.1" Looks like the bracket is whats positioning it out...damn....well no need to get stuck...I can continue looking for rotors but I still want to try the Prelude and/or G2 one just to be sure... Also, the G2's drum in brake parking brake may prevent the rears from ever being used....but theres no harm in trying right!? EDIT: Oh looks like you already noticed that to __________________ <Monocolor Paint Scheme> <JDM Clear Corners> <Cleared out Rear Turn Signals> <Acura Caliper Grill Emblem> <Independent Yellow Fog Mod> <15% Tint> <Iggee Seat Covers> <EL Reverse Glow Gauges> <Dimmer Mod> <Ford Taurus Cupholder Mod> <CC Tunk Light Mod> <Fut Short Throw Shifter> <Custom CAI> <AEM Bypass Valve> <OBX Headers> <Magnaflow High Flow Cat> <Dynomax Super Turbo Muffler> <Drilled/Slotted Rotors> <Painted Calipers> <Axxis Metal Master Pads>

07-03-08, 11:08 PM	#22 (permalink)
l4zy415 FRISCO LEGEND BABY!!!! Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Frisco Cali Posts: 3,918 Car 1: 1988 Acura Legend Sedan iTrader: (5)	Subscribed __________________ \18" Limited 341 Chrome Rims/\Matador Red Paint/\Weapon R - Secret Weapon Intake/\LED Bright White Dash Lights/Floor/\Kenwood KDC-X590 Excelon Mp3 Deck/\Ford Taurus Coin/Cup Holder/\2 12" Kickers/\1200 Watt Sony XM-2200GTX 2-Channel Xplod Amp/\2 Rockford Fosgate Capacitors/\Power Acoustic Capacitor/\Clear Rear Turn Signal/\Reverse Glow Gauges/\Swapped 88' Headlights to 89'-90'/\JDM Rear Chrome Trim/\Stromung Muffler/ Soon To Come: Rebuild Motor and 5-MT Swap

07-03-08, 11:12 PM	#23 (permalink)
kotetu 33mpg 6spd Coupe Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 3,507 Car 1: 95 LS Coupe 6spd Car 2: 94 L Cpe 6spd - sold Car 3: 98 Prelude - sold iTrader: (13)	actually it looks like the 96 prelude VTEC is 4 lug, not 5. That should be a good rotor to search for! __________________ Inflation is your friend! I mean really, who doesn't want to own a $100,000 car? Last edited by kotetu : 07-03-08 at 11:26 PM.

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07-03-08, 11:22 PM	#25 (permalink)
sam o nela CAP CAP M* F*R! Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: SoCal Posts: 9,318 Car 1: '87L, 5 speed Sedan Car 2: '71 Datsun PL521 iTrader: (10)	Dont know the year...but it was an L coupe....red on black leather too Anyhow it is obvious that the calipers and pads are indeed larger than the G1 parts....however, according to all the data, the rotors should be the same diameter... Not a problem...ingenuity is my copilot... __________________ <Monocolor Paint Scheme> <JDM Clear Corners> <Cleared out Rear Turn Signals> <Acura Caliper Grill Emblem> <Independent Yellow Fog Mod> <15% Tint> <Iggee Seat Covers> <EL Reverse Glow Gauges> <Dimmer Mod> <Ford Taurus Cupholder Mod> <CC Tunk Light Mod> <Fut Short Throw Shifter> <Custom CAI> <AEM Bypass Valve> <OBX Headers> <Magnaflow High Flow Cat> <Dynomax Super Turbo Muffler> <Drilled/Slotted Rotors> <Painted Calipers> <Axxis Metal Master Pads>

07-03-08, 11:25 PM	#26 (permalink)
sam o nela CAP CAP M* F*R! Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: SoCal Posts: 9,318 Car 1: '87L, 5 speed Sedan Car 2: '71 Datsun PL521 iTrader: (10)	I remember reading some article a while ago stating that a criticism for the G2 when it was new was that it should have had slightly larger brakes for the weight of the car... __________________ <Monocolor Paint Scheme> <JDM Clear Corners> <Cleared out Rear Turn Signals> <Acura Caliper Grill Emblem> <Independent Yellow Fog Mod> <15% Tint> <Iggee Seat Covers> <EL Reverse Glow Gauges> <Dimmer Mod> <Ford Taurus Cupholder Mod> <CC Tunk Light Mod> <Fut Short Throw Shifter> <Custom CAI> <AEM Bypass Valve> <OBX Headers> <Magnaflow High Flow Cat> <Dynomax Super Turbo Muffler> <Drilled/Slotted Rotors> <Painted Calipers> <Axxis Metal Master Pads>

07-03-08, 11:29 PM	#27 (permalink)
kotetu 33mpg 6spd Coupe Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 3,507 Car 1: 95 LS Coupe 6spd Car 2: 94 L Cpe 6spd - sold Car 3: 98 Prelude - sold iTrader: (13)	take a measuring tape and find out if that is a 10.2/10.3 rotor. if so an 11.1 should fit nicely. then you need to measure the hat height and find out if the Prelude is the same. One thing you could try is head over to Autozone/Napa/Pepboys and ask them to pull out a rotor for your model and year Legend and a 1996 Prelude VTEC and ask if you can hold them next to eachother. __________________ Inflation is your friend! I mean really, who doesn't want to own a $100,000 car?

07-03-08, 11:30 PM	#28 (permalink)
sam o nela CAP CAP M* F*R! Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: SoCal Posts: 9,318 Car 1: '87L, 5 speed Sedan Car 2: '71 Datsun PL521 iTrader: (10)	Not to hijack my own thread....but Kotetu did you guys know that the 99-04 RLs used 11.8" Rotors w/ 28mm thickness? How different are the underpinnings of these cars compared to the G2s? __________________ <Monocolor Paint Scheme> <JDM Clear Corners> <Cleared out Rear Turn Signals> <Acura Caliper Grill Emblem> <Independent Yellow Fog Mod> <15% Tint> <Iggee Seat Covers> <EL Reverse Glow Gauges> <Dimmer Mod> <Ford Taurus Cupholder Mod> <CC Tunk Light Mod> <Fut Short Throw Shifter> <Custom CAI> <AEM Bypass Valve> <OBX Headers> <Magnaflow High Flow Cat> <Dynomax Super Turbo Muffler> <Drilled/Slotted Rotors> <Painted Calipers> <Axxis Metal Master Pads>

07-03-08, 11:32 PM	#29 (permalink)
sam o nela CAP CAP M* F*R! Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: SoCal Posts: 9,318 Car 1: '87L, 5 speed Sedan Car 2: '71 Datsun PL521 iTrader: (10)	Yeah I was thinking about rolling over to Autozone this weekend to compare... I didnt bother to measure, but that coupe I was working on should have been 11.1"....but we'll see! __________________ <Monocolor Paint Scheme> <JDM Clear Corners> <Cleared out Rear Turn Signals> <Acura Caliper Grill Emblem> <Independent Yellow Fog Mod> <15% Tint> <Iggee Seat Covers> <EL Reverse Glow Gauges> <Dimmer Mod> <Ford Taurus Cupholder Mod> <CC Tunk Light Mod> <Fut Short Throw Shifter> <Custom CAI> <AEM Bypass Valve> <OBX Headers> <Magnaflow High Flow Cat> <Dynomax Super Turbo Muffler> <Drilled/Slotted Rotors> <Painted Calipers> <Axxis Metal Master Pads>

07-03-08, 11:33 PM	#30 (permalink)
kotetu 33mpg 6spd Coupe Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 3,507 Car 1: 95 LS Coupe 6spd Car 2: 94 L Cpe 6spd - sold Car 3: 98 Prelude - sold iTrader: (13)	yes I knew that. AFAIK, the rotor bolts up, but I am pretty sure if you want to use a 2 pot caliper you have to make a bracket for it. I'm looking into 13 inch rotors for my 4 pot 2005 RL calipers. __________________ Inflation is your friend! I mean really, who doesn't want to own a $100,000 car?

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