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Old 12-05-08, 02:38 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Honda ATF Vs. Dexron-III

What's the difference? Are there any marked advantages to using one over the other in Gen. 1's?
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I found this info:
Honda has been using a special transmission fluid for a while. In some of the older Honda manuals, they recommend Dexron II be used when Genuine Honda ATF is not available. Some of our fluid suppliers said that the Honda ATF was just Dexron II (instead of the more popular Dexron III. The older Honda transmissions would often exhibit harsh shifting, especially in the morning, when Dexron III was used, but it did not seem to do any lasting damage.

However, Honda has added some very unusual transmission designs like the CVT (continuously variable transmission) and the new ATF-Z1 is what they recommend were recommending for all Honda transmissions, past and present. We would strongly urge you to use only ATF-Z1 for any modern non-CVT Honda transmission. When you come to Art's, you can be sure that your Honda will be refilled with ATF-Z1

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Ours aren't CVT transmissions, are they?
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i been driving with honda atf for about 3 or 4 weeks now, cant even tell the difference from the atf i bought at autozone. with honda atf, the few couple of days it got smoother with the shifting, but now its almost back to normal.
the other one i used, i cant remember which, well it takes probly 2 months before the shifting got back to normal. but then again i also used seafoam for the 1st one. and the seafoam was messing with my gear lights. when i just change my atf with the honda one, my gear lights are perfectly fine now.
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thats something your not going to notice right away...alot of non-honda atf has alot of detergents in them which do harm honda trannys in the fact of poor shift quality and most important longevity. for the price of the stuff the more important question is why would you use any other fluid for you honda than the oem stuff? i mean they make it for a reason..again thats just my 2 cents but iam slighty bias
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It all boils down to "Maintenance" in my opinion ...I've used dex/mer atf for my car and have yet to run into tranny issue(s), and @294K+ drive train original miles, I must be doing something right
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Isn't Honda ATF made by Q8 oils....?

The mainstealers over here in euro land keep telling me their fuilds are from Q8 oils.....

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People here used to swear by Honda ATF but damn that stuff is expensive. I killed the tranny on my '87 w/ Dex III (I think the solenoids got clogged and they are internal on the 86-87 sedan trannies) and never got around to Honda ATF before I sold it.

As a side note, my mom's TL manual says Dex III should only be used as a temporary replacement for Honda ATF for a short while.
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ive used dex 3 and never had any problems in my cars but i did a whole trans flush with mine !
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I've tried to find out which oil company has contract to supply honda with their fluids ,as its always handy to know

I far as I can tell (in euroland) Q8 seems to be the main supplier according to dealers...??
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Put the new ATF-Z1 in my 94 Legend recently, it's like night and day. My transmission is shifting smoother than ever, my legend feels like a new car. So glad I went to Honda.
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wel the guy i bought my car from used dex/merc and its shifting like crap, so my wife will buy me some honda fluid and ill change it hopefully it will fix it
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make sure to clean the shift solenoids also.
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