At length detail of Legend Trim options (V6Ti, V6Xi, and so on)

D0NNY · 12-29-03, 04:25 PM

Ok, as we all know, there was the Honda Legend Sedan that was turbo'd. That make of Legend was known as the V6Ti. They had a Ti, and a Ti exclusive version which were probably for trim reasons. In the 2.7L sedans, they offered and Xi exclusive version, which seemed to offer only TCS. The wing turbo we read about was being worked on at the same time Vtec was. Apparently, honda stuck with vtec over the wing turbo, instead of both (

) Oh well. As I've read here, there is word that a developmental 2.7L existed. However, probing through Honda crap has proven that it was just that, developmental. It didn't seem to hit the streets. Word also has it that they showed up stateside and offered a turbo version of the sedan (the V6Ti in Japan), but most of us have yet to see one. I'll quote the links on what I'm talking about.

http://www.honda.co.jp/news/1989/4890720.html

Quote:

1989 July 20th
In legend drive control system for worldwide first FF car
HONDA TCS (the traction control system) loading, it sells.

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Honda Motor Co., Ltd. (Inc.), the drive control system for the FF car which makes the maximum show in the various road surfaces which include rough road such as graveling road, HONDA (*) TCS (traction ƒRƒ“ trawl & the system) 2. 7l cars of legend (exclusive) it loads acceleration efficiency and the revolving efficiency which the car has, sells from July 21st. In addition equipment of 2. 0l cars being complete to a greater extent, from August 21st departure sale it does from the ƒNƒŠƒI store of the respective entire country.

The feature of HONDA TCS
As for the FF car, the driving wheel and the steering wheel are identical, when control of drive is done, driving force of the nosewheel (power of front and back direction) not only control, the lateral force which decides revolving ability (transverse power) it is necessary also for control to do simultaneously. HONDA established the method of thinking the new control vis-a-vis this, the finishing formed in the world as a system for the FF car for the first time.
In the tire which is in the midst of travelling, the ‚é where driving force in order to accelerate and decelerate and the lateral force in order to revolve every single two powers occur, when it strengthens on the one hand, is a relationship that between these two powers another side becomes weak. Because of this, in the former traction control system, when emphasis is put on driving force control, in the circumstance whose side power when and the like revolving is necessary not be able to show the ability of the tire in the maximum, in addition, conversely with lateral force control concern type, when accelerating, the way there was a thing which cannot pull out the ability of the tire effectively in the circumstance whose driving force is necessary. The ‚Ü is, with rough road such as graveling road the tire racing feeling can make driving force large somewhat, but there was also a thing where with conventional type densely function is not considered.
HONDA, in order to solve these problems, looking back angular velocity of the vehicle (ƒˆ - rate) controls driving force and the lateral force "easy operation characteristic control" and provided rough road detection function simultaneously by the fact that it detects in addition to former driving force control, the finishing it is something which is formed the revolving quality which constructs the new control theory "associated control rough road" of, parallels to the will of the acceleration of maximum efficiency and operator in the various road surfaces as the one for FF car TCS which it is compatible at high level.
It made high acceleration efficiency, revolving efficiency and rough road running the whole distance efficiency actualize with HONDA TCS, although sensor and ECU of 2 types of 4 wheel speed sensors and steering wheel position of a vessel's helm sensor (Electronic Control Unit) being quite the simple constitution which consists of, the aforementioned way. In addition, this ƒV stem when the engine is started, automatically becomes operation possible state, but we have become the way which it can operate can cancel excluding during TCS operating, with the will of the operator, it guarantees degree of freedom of driving.
Or more HONDA TCS is the epoch-making mechanism which brings evolution to virtuous work characteristic of the FF car which was developed by control theory and the individual technology whose HONDA is completely new, this technology, is one of the same variable technology as the variable wing turbo and variable valve tie ƒ~ƒ“ƒO lift mechanism etc., in a manner of speaking even intelligence conversion of the car you can say.

* It is the mechanism which TCS, holds down wasteful racing of the driving wheel which occurs when departing and acceleration in the road surface and the like which it is easy to slide, makes the ability of tie ƒ„ show effectively. In other words adding fast efficiency and cornering efficiency of maximum efficiency it is the system which anyone can actualize easily in various road surface circumstances.

Other additional equipment. - Seat sliding & tilt adjustment function and height adjustment function of driver's seat electromotive power conversion. Fine control possibility being with the stepless floor adjustment, it reached the point where more precise driving position it can be obtained easily. (V6Gi exclusive and V6Ti exclusive)
- You lighten the belt tension at the time of seat belt installing and installing tension ƒŠƒf�c[ƒT[ attaching sea ƒgƒxƒ‹ƒg which cancels the oppressive feeling in the front. (V6Gi exclusive and V6Ti exclusive)
- In 2 door hardtops color addition of ƒtƒ[ƒŒƒ“ƒXƒuƒ‹[ƒƒ^ƒŠƒbƒN.

I'll post the 2nd link after this one.

D0NNY · 12-29-03, 04:31 PM

and http://www.honda.co.jp/news/1988/4881013.html

Quote:

HONDA "legend" the new development HONDA variable wing turbo substantial improvement and the internal equipment and equipment of on-board basic efficiency to be complete in the minor change 2. 0l V type 6 cylinder engine, sale

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Honda Motor Co., Ltd. (Inc.), reliability it is high with high quality, adopting the HONDA variable wing turbo which was developed with individual technology for 2. 0lV type 6 cylinder - 24 valve engines of HONDA "legend".
ƒ_ƒuƒ‹ƒEƒCƒbƒV�cƒ{[ƒ“ƒTƒXƒyƒ“ƒVƒ‡ƒ“ was adopted anew even on the rear of 4 door sedans, all the ƒVƒŠ[ ƒY became 4 wheel ƒ_ƒuƒ‹ƒEƒCƒbƒV�cƒ{[ƒ“ƒTƒXƒyƒ“ƒVƒ‡ƒ“ with this.
In addition, adopting large-sized ƒƒ“ƒs[ƒXƒtƒƒ“ƒgƒOƒŠ ƒ‹ of bonnet one body which has character and tone to 4 door sedans. In addition, besides the fact that numerous new technical new mechanism was introduced, efficiency, functional substantial improvement and appearance and interior it was complete to a greater extent e.g., it loads for the first time as a domestic car, it adopts the tilt feature attaching steering wheel for the SRS ƒGƒAƒoƒbƒOƒV stem which obtains already high appraisal, anew.
Furthermore, from the ƒNƒŠƒI store of entire country it sells this HONDA "legend" series, from October 14th.

The engine, the HONDA V6 - 24 valve engine which high efficiency is compatible with Takaide power in the base, to develop the HONDA original wing turbo in 2.0 l engines, loading.
It is the system where this around the turbine blade of the turbocharger provides the variable wing respectively in 4 fixed wings, by the fact that it changes the angle of the variable wing minutely according to the operational circumstance of the engine, controls the speed of exhaust, controls supercharging pressure variably. As for this, there is a general turbo system, it is something which is based on the method of thinking, ‚é which (* 1)) makes the way strike gate unnecessary and utilizes exhaust energy effectively.

- Sales planning (domestic monthly schedule)
2 and 500 unit series total
- Sale day
October 14th

As for this variable wing, PGM which has high operational ability - with the computer which is the high function which can combine FI and turbo ECU, according to various operational circumstances optimum wing opening instantaneously decision. When accelerating, as for the variable wing it became the full closing and it acquired high supercharging pressure by the fact that flux of the exhaust is raised with the opening of of the little of the fixed wing, (* 2)) also the intercept point 2, made below 000rpm possible, also the response and low-speed torque efficiency when accelerating which does not make turbo lag feel improved substantially.
Furthermore, when engine rpm rises, the variable wing opening gradually, in order to be able to obtain best torque, by the fact that supercharging pressure is controlled, low profit, also super wide conversion of the torque band actualizing high torque from the rotary limits to the high rotary limits. As a result, with the former turbo low compatibility of Takaide power conversion in intercept which is made difficult conversion and the high-speed limits was achieved in the higher-order origin.
This wing turbo, as supercharging pressure is made to control more finely, as a turbo engine for the car achieving 9.0 high pressure reduction ratio conversions which so far do not look at example. To be strong high quality the running and fuel economy it is the turbocharger system which balance well it is compatible.
* 1) With the usual turbo, is supercharging pressure above necessity when, without applying the exhaust to the turbo turbine, it puts out outside and it is the gate which holds down the output of the turbo.
* 2) Engine rpm of the point in time when it reaches to the HONDA set supercharging pressure = in throttle full opening state 450mmHg.

Suspension, the ƒ_ƒuƒ‹ƒEƒCƒbƒV�cƒ{[ƒ“ suspension where you can obtain the balance of high level in maneuverability and riding comfort 4 wheels you adopt entirely. Going hand in hand the new compound engine mount which improves vibrating absorption efficiency, can obtain, more pliant riding comfort it became something where.
The brake, ƒ^ƒ“ƒfƒ€ƒ}ƒXƒ^[ƒpƒ of 9 + 8 inches where you can obtain certain effectiveness taste with anew light foot pressure - (you exclude Mi Zi Gi exclusive) you install. Adopting the foot type parking brake which is superior in operativity to the hand brake of the automatic car.
In addition, in domestic car first SRS air bag system, new adoption tilt feature attaching steering wheel. You could obtain appropriate angle according to the physique and operational circumstance of the dry bar, from reliability plus became something which is done.
As for exterior, high material feeling and existence impression furthermore pursuit. Adopting the die-cast make ƒO rill which is unified to the bonnet, being profound, it pushes out and has the impression.
In addition, the wide impression sporty impression furthermore was pursued the extensive colored bumper of new design (before & after), with the rear combination light/write and the light functional attaching rear end panel garnish etc..
You use the interior and, for selfish improvement, the front seat large-sized center armrest attaching 2 step type console (the automatic car), the rear seat seat belt housing box, furthermore Ti, from adopting the bucket type which has the hold impression to Ti exclusive, as a private seat. Furthermore, it became something where you can obtain comfortable arrival seat feeling electromotive ƒnƒCƒgƒAƒWƒƒ strike mechanism (2 door hardtops, by adding 2 door hardtop exclusive Xi exclusive).

- Equipment in addition The ƒC ƒO ƒj ƒbƒVƒ‡ƒ“ƒL[ enclosing prevention system which prevents the door key less lock of driver's seat side in a state where the ignition key has been inserted adoption (Mi is excluded).
Adopting the fog lamp built-in 2 light type halogen headlight.
Adoption of ƒqƒhƒ“ƒEƒHƒbƒVƒƒ[ƒmƒYƒ‹ which produces the bonnet surface which will be been clear.
15 inch aluminum wheel which produces the beautiful footwork and 195/65R1590H ƒXƒ`[ ƒ‹ƒ‰ƒWƒAƒ‹ƒ^ƒCƒ„ (Ti, equipping Ti exclusive Xi exclusive)

Basically, They don't mention a 2.7L turbo, or not that I glanced at, and it seems we'll be hard pressed to find one. Also searching around, some 2.0 Turbos are for sale in russia (whole cars), and aren't that expensive (assuming the rubbel or whatever they have now is ****ty), and you may be able to scoop up a whole car for cheap, minus getting it shipped (that'd be a pain in the ass).

Hope someone here enjoys the read.

The two links have some pics, and sales figures for the car.

Just bored and showin some love

LEGENDCanadian · 12-29-03, 04:59 PM

i have seen many of these in tokyo japan but couldnt get my camera out in time to take pics. if i go again soon i will do my best to take pics of car and hopefully engine if the owners will let me

Eric F · 12-30-03, 11:52 AM

There was a guy from austrailia that had a Turbo G1. He posted pics of the engine bay. I can't remember if it was on these forums or the old ones.

D0NNY · 01-07-04, 06:13 AM

A turbo G1 did exist, just not with the 2.7L from what I've read. I'll do some scrounging for engine bay pics. I found a ****load of images for the cars, just not the engine bays

12-29-03, 04:59 PM	#3 (permalink)
LEGENDCanadian S*preme Legend Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: San Diego Posts: 405 Car 1: 1987 Blue Acura Legend 2 door 5 spd iTrader: (0)	i have seen many of these in tokyo japan but couldnt get my camera out in time to take pics. if i go again soon i will do my best to take pics of car and hopefully engine if the owners will let me __________________ <img src="http://www3.sympatico.ca/buchler/signature.jpg"> http://groups.msn.com/Orenandfriends Performance mods: custom 2.25 cat back exhaust with vibrant muffler weapon r intake KVR cross drilled rotors custom ceramic clutch and tranny (San Diego transmission) custom strut bars (front and rear) Bayou/Dinan stage 2 chip 17 inch rims Interior mods: momo shift knob custom real leather seats brown tan 2 tone Stereo mods: Alpine head unit Alpine in dash screen 2 12" pioneer subs Rockford fosgate bd 500.1 Rockford fosgate 400.4 2 ferad capacitor alpine 6.5" dddrive japanese rear speakers AVI component 6.5" front speakers 12 disk alpine changer Exterior mods: JDM clear corners 90 tail lights road boy fog lights bmw side markers

12-30-03, 11:52 AM	#4 (permalink)
Eric F Registered User Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Salt Lake City, Utah Posts: 703 Car 1: 1987 Bahama Gold L Coupe iTrader: (0)	There was a guy from austrailia that had a Turbo G1. He posted pics of the engine bay. I can't remember if it was on these forums or the old ones. __________________ '87 5 speed L coupe '90 5 speed base coupe (sold) '88 5 speed L coupe RIP (tranny) - parts car '87 5 speed L coupe (sold)

01-07-04, 06:13 AM	#5 (permalink)
D0NNY A*ra-Legend.om's POS Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Louisiana Posts: 451 Car 1: Green 89 L Legend Coupe iTrader: (0)	A turbo G1 did exist, just not with the 2.7L from what I've read. I'll do some scrounging for engine bay pics. I found a ****load of images for the cars, just not the engine bays __________________ Fuel cut, missing gears, stuck hood. 0-60 in 10 seconds of fun 1989 Acura Legend L Coupe 107,XXX 1997 Honda Accord EX V6 47,XXX

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