4 cylinder swap

arrozburner · 03-26-08, 01:56 AM

ive searched and havent really found anything on this topic so hre it goes...i have a 91 ls and i think i might have a bhg...ive already replaced the hoses, thermostat and radiator but it still starts to warm up if im sitting in bumper to bumper traffic for too long...i was thinking that instead of just fixing the hg was it possible to swap out the whole engine out for a smalled 4 cylinder engine from say an odyssey or crv or even an accord? i love the body style of the legend so i just wanted to see if it was possible to go a lil smaller...i know i would be losing hp but those days of making my car faster have come and gone, now i just want high mpg and a good looking comfortabel ride. any help or suggestions would be greatly appreciated

*sam o nela* · 03-26-08, 01:59 AM

Buy a cb7 Accord...

EDIT: Oh my bad itlooks like you already have a 92....either way, there is no easy way to put any other engine besides a c32a into a G2 Legend...

l4zy415 · 03-26-08, 02:02 AM

Are you serious!!! If you put a 4 cylinder in the Legend, thats like moving a tank. Go get a beater car. Just to warn you, your gonna get flamed for asking that question on the G2 section.

*sam o nela* · 03-26-08, 02:23 AM

Naw I dont think he should get flamed...I can see where he's coming from:

~Nice styling
~V6 with a BHG
~Gas Prices in SoCal...

Makes sense to me to at least ask...but yeah again...not too doable man...sorry...

l4zy415 · 03-26-08, 02:25 AM

Its best to go buy a Accord and drive that around. If you have space in the garage or driveway, you could fix the BHG, if you have time.

Ken · 03-26-08, 02:26 AM

swap a D series in. saves gas and you can prolly go from 0-60 in like 30 seconds.

arrozburner · 03-26-08, 02:30 AM

the 91 legend is only like 110lbs more than the 95 odyssey (according to consumer guide auto) so i dont thing it would be "like moving a tank"...i know it wont be as fuun to drive as it is right now, but ive driven an odyssey and it has good pick up...and why should i be flamed for asking a simple question? thanks sam for the response, and yes i do own a 92 accord...well i did until i got t-boned on the freeway hence why i got the legend...

legendfire · 03-26-08, 02:40 AM

it would take a ridiculous amount of modification. get an acura tl 2.5. my brother had one with leather and an alpine head unit and infinity speakers and two infinity 12's with a limo tint and it was an amazing car. good gas mileage and it was comfortable.

l4zy415 · 03-26-08, 02:41 AM

Ouch sorry about the Accord, I'm just saying, I ain't flamin' ya, but it kinda happened before when someone asked that same question. I'm just tryin' to help ya out. But if your planning on doing the swap, look around, I know its possible, but thats gonna be a lot of $$$.

Ken · 03-26-08, 04:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by legendfire

it would take a ridiculous amount of modification. get an acura tl 2.5. my brother had one with leather and an alpine head unit and infinity speakers and two infinity 12's with a limo tint and it was an amazing car. good gas mileage and it was comfortable.

they also require premium and get about the same MPG as the type I motor.

*stevieray* · 03-26-08, 08:02 AM

Gabe had the right answer---CB7 Accord.

**B+O** · 03-26-08, 09:10 AM

^yep

Here's the thing. The more your car weighs the more power it takes to move it. 4 cylinders end up being less efficient as the power required of them increases due to mass and aerodynamics.

inherently you'll hurt the fuel consumption of the 4cylinder by stuffing it into a 3500lbs car.

That said, it's entirely possible to throw a 4 cylinder in there. hell, even turbocharge it if you want. The only thing limiting you is your imagination and your wallet.

samblaze · 03-26-08, 09:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by B+O

That said, it's entirely possible to throw a 4 cylinder in there. hell, even turbocharge it if you want. The only thing limiting you is your imagination and your wallet.

Well said. Like others have already claimed it is possible to put in a 4 banger into the Legend, but there is no way to simply drop one in. The cost of the custom fabrication and powertrain design modification would be far more than the acquisition cost of a gently used 4 cylinder Accord. If you decide to fix the BHG. which I would recommend if the rest of the car is in decent shape, then there is an experimental air induction technology being developed that some of us have been discussing, feel free to jump in:

HHO Kit: Brown's Gas (from water) for fuel combustion efficiency. Any good?

Alperovich · 03-26-08, 10:34 AM

if u want better MPG, goto the junk yard, get yourself a decent typeII motor. do a full rebuild it. back to oem specs, maybe a improved parts here and there.

I get 25-30mpg on my legend and its performance orientated, with only 10k on the motor since the rebuild. i couldn't be happier, its powerful, strong and can get good MPG even if i hit the track on the weeks, i haven't seen under 20mpg yet

bl420 · 03-26-08, 10:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ken

swap a D series in. saves gas and you can prolly go from 0-60 in like 30 seconds.

VTEC that shit too...

SOHC VTEC FTMFW!

03-26-08, 01:56 AM	#1 (permalink)
arrozburner Registered User Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: los angeles Posts: 14 Car 1: '92 accord iTrader: (1)	4 cylinder swap ive searched and havent really found anything on this topic so hre it goes...i have a 91 ls and i think i might have a bhg...ive already replaced the hoses, thermostat and radiator but it still starts to warm up if im sitting in bumper to bumper traffic for too long...i was thinking that instead of just fixing the hg was it possible to swap out the whole engine out for a smalled 4 cylinder engine from say an odyssey or crv or even an accord? i love the body style of the legend so i just wanted to see if it was possible to go a lil smaller...i know i would be losing hp but those days of making my car faster have come and gone, now i just want high mpg and a good looking comfortabel ride. any help or suggestions would be greatly appreciated

03-26-08, 01:59 AM	#2 (permalink)
sam o nela CAP CAP M* F*R! Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: SoCal Posts: 9,116 Car 1: '87L, 5 speed Sedan Car 2: '71 Datsun PL521 iTrader: (10)	Buy a cb7 Accord... EDIT: Oh my bad itlooks like you already have a 92....either way, there is no easy way to put any other engine besides a c32a into a G2 Legend... __________________ <Monocolor Paint Scheme> <JDM Clear Corners> <Cleared out Rear Turn Signals> <Acura Caliper Grill Emblem> <Independent Yellow Fog Mod> <15% Tint> <Iggee Seat Covers> <EL Reverse Glow Gauges> <Dimmer Mod> <Ford Taurus Cupholder Mod> <CC Tunk Light Mod> <Fut Short Throw Shifter> <Custom CAI> <AEM Bypass Valve> <OBX Headers> <Magnaflow High Flow Cat> <Dynomax Super Turbo Muffler> <Drilled/Slotted Rotors> <Painted Calipers> <Axxis Metal Master Pads>

03-26-08, 02:02 AM	#3 (permalink)
l4zy415 FRISCO LEGEND BABY!!!! Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Frisco Cali Posts: 3,260 Car 1: 1988 Acura Legend Sedan iTrader: (4)	Are you serious!!! If you put a 4 cylinder in the Legend, thats like moving a tank. Go get a beater car. Just to warn you, your gonna get flamed for asking that question on the G2 section. __________________ My Legend Is Rising Back From Hell!!!! BEWARE. 18" Limited 341 Chrome Rims Matador Red Paint Weapon R - Secret Weapon Intake LED Bright White Dash Lights/Floor Kenwood KDC-X590 Excelon Mp3 Deck Ford Taurus Coin/Cup Holder 2 12" Kickers 1200 Watt Sony XM-2200GTX 2-Channel Xplod Amp 2 Rockford Fosgate Capacitors Power Acoustic Capacitor Clear Rear Turn Signal Reverse Glow Gauges Soon To Come: Rebuild Motor and 5-MT Swap

03-26-08, 02:23 AM	#4 (permalink)
sam o nela CAP CAP M* F*R! Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: SoCal Posts: 9,116 Car 1: '87L, 5 speed Sedan Car 2: '71 Datsun PL521 iTrader: (10)	Naw I dont think he should get flamed...I can see where he's coming from: ~Nice styling ~V6 with a BHG ~Gas Prices in SoCal... Makes sense to me to at least ask...but yeah again...not too doable man...sorry... __________________ <Monocolor Paint Scheme> <JDM Clear Corners> <Cleared out Rear Turn Signals> <Acura Caliper Grill Emblem> <Independent Yellow Fog Mod> <15% Tint> <Iggee Seat Covers> <EL Reverse Glow Gauges> <Dimmer Mod> <Ford Taurus Cupholder Mod> <CC Tunk Light Mod> <Fut Short Throw Shifter> <Custom CAI> <AEM Bypass Valve> <OBX Headers> <Magnaflow High Flow Cat> <Dynomax Super Turbo Muffler> <Drilled/Slotted Rotors> <Painted Calipers> <Axxis Metal Master Pads>

03-26-08, 02:25 AM	#5 (permalink)
l4zy415 FRISCO LEGEND BABY!!!! Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Frisco Cali Posts: 3,260 Car 1: 1988 Acura Legend Sedan iTrader: (4)	Its best to go buy a Accord and drive that around. If you have space in the garage or driveway, you could fix the BHG, if you have time. __________________ My Legend Is Rising Back From Hell!!!! BEWARE. 18" Limited 341 Chrome Rims Matador Red Paint Weapon R - Secret Weapon Intake LED Bright White Dash Lights/Floor Kenwood KDC-X590 Excelon Mp3 Deck Ford Taurus Coin/Cup Holder 2 12" Kickers 1200 Watt Sony XM-2200GTX 2-Channel Xplod Amp 2 Rockford Fosgate Capacitors Power Acoustic Capacitor Clear Rear Turn Signal Reverse Glow Gauges Soon To Come: Rebuild Motor and 5-MT Swap

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03-26-08, 02:26 AM	#6 (permalink)
Ken aka desired_speeds Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: The Hella Part of Cali Posts: 7,589 Car 1: 91 Legend LS - soon to be manual Car 2: 91 Legend L - parts Car 3: 96 Honda Saber 32v iTrader: (2)	swap a D series in. saves gas and you can prolly go from 0-60 in like 30 seconds. __________________ . k e n Parting out a 91 L 5-speed, let me know if you need any parts besides engine and 5-speed parts. The car is Rosewood brown with type E cloth interior.

03-26-08, 02:30 AM	#7 (permalink)
arrozburner Registered User Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: los angeles Posts: 14 Car 1: '92 accord iTrader: (1)	the 91 legend is only like 110lbs more than the 95 odyssey (according to consumer guide auto) so i dont thing it would be "like moving a tank"...i know it wont be as fuun to drive as it is right now, but ive driven an odyssey and it has good pick up...and why should i be flamed for asking a simple question? thanks sam for the response, and yes i do own a 92 accord...well i did until i got t-boned on the freeway hence why i got the legend...

03-26-08, 02:40 AM	#8 (permalink)
legendfire Registered User Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: santa rosa, norcal Posts: 164 Car 1: 1994 6spd coupe iTrader: (0)	it would take a ridiculous amount of modification. get an acura tl 2.5. my brother had one with leather and an alpine head unit and infinity speakers and two infinity 12's with a limo tint and it was an amazing car. good gas mileage and it was comfortable. __________________ cashmere silver metallic 94 L coupe type2 6spd -5spd clutch and flywheel swap -weapon r sri -zfclubsport.com optimized throttle body

03-26-08, 02:41 AM	#9 (permalink)
l4zy415 FRISCO LEGEND BABY!!!! Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Frisco Cali Posts: 3,260 Car 1: 1988 Acura Legend Sedan iTrader: (4)	Ouch sorry about the Accord, I'm just saying, I ain't flamin' ya, but it kinda happened before when someone asked that same question. I'm just tryin' to help ya out. But if your planning on doing the swap, look around, I know its possible, but thats gonna be a lot of $$$. __________________ My Legend Is Rising Back From Hell!!!! BEWARE. 18" Limited 341 Chrome Rims Matador Red Paint Weapon R - Secret Weapon Intake LED Bright White Dash Lights/Floor Kenwood KDC-X590 Excelon Mp3 Deck Ford Taurus Coin/Cup Holder 2 12" Kickers 1200 Watt Sony XM-2200GTX 2-Channel Xplod Amp 2 Rockford Fosgate Capacitors Power Acoustic Capacitor Clear Rear Turn Signal Reverse Glow Gauges Soon To Come: Rebuild Motor and 5-MT Swap

03-26-08, 08:02 AM	#11 (permalink)
stevieray Swollen Member Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Franklin, TN Posts: 7,435 Car 1: '95 LS Coupe Car 2: '91 LS Coupe Car 3: '89 Prelude Si iTrader: (13)	Gabe had the right answer---CB7 Accord. __________________ *"King of Kleen"* "Know this. Being able to purchase a Legend and being able to afford a Legend are two separate things. Realize nothing post-purchase is cheap." - LegendGS

03-26-08, 09:10 AM	#12 (permalink)
B+O G2BMC Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: VSC Moderator Posts: 12,051 Car 1: why? iTrader: (1)	^yep Here's the thing. The more your car weighs the more power it takes to move it. 4 cylinders end up being less efficient as the power required of them increases due to mass and aerodynamics. inherently you'll hurt the fuel consumption of the 4cylinder by stuffing it into a 3500lbs car. That said, it's entirely possible to throw a 4 cylinder in there. hell, even turbocharge it if you want. The only thing limiting you is your imagination and your wallet.

03-26-08, 10:34 AM	#14 (permalink)
Alperovich I'm the Stig! Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Highland park, il Posts: 13,891 Car 1: 94 DM GS Car 2: 93 Coupe LS 6SPD :( Car 3: 99 2.3CL 5spd iTrader: (19)	if u want better MPG, goto the junk yard, get yourself a decent typeII motor. do a full rebuild it. back to oem specs, maybe a improved parts here and there. I get 25-30mpg on my legend and its performance orientated, with only 10k on the motor since the rebuild. i couldn't be happier, its powerful, strong and can get good MPG even if i hit the track on the weeks, i haven't seen under 20mpg yet __________________ ~Alex \

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