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Old 01-27-08, 04:31 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Question bad ignition switch??

95 leg ls 4 dr. ls
turn key to acc position radio works, turn to second position lights should come on at dash ,, but do not come on. turn key a hair farther as if to start but not fully and dash lights come on , turn fully to start, and car runs for a second. does this sound like a bad key switch?

car also has a remote start, remote starts just fine and stays running until i touch brake, then engine shuts down. i disabled the remote start by turning toggle switch to off postion to try to narrow it down. car still wont start.

would appreciate any help
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Sounds like a typical bad ignition switch.
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1994-1995 Acura LegendElectrical Portion.
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is there a way to tell if i need the electrical portion or the key cylinder portion. the key portion has a good amount of play or wobble in it. car has 174,000.
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no u don't need the key cylinder it usually the electrical portion that goes bad. And u can replace it yourself it will take you 5 min.GL
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no u don't need the key cylinder it usually the electrical portion that goes bad. And u can replace it yourself it will take you 5 min.GL
that was going to be my next question, can a novice mechanic change it ,otherwise i have to call a towtruck to tow it to a shop. also i read a realated link here that said the whole steering columb had to come down to change it?
maybe i was reading something from a g1 legend? does anyone have pictures or other info i could refer to as a guide while i'm changing it?

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that was going to be my next question, can a novice mechanic change it ,otherwise i have to call a towtruck to tow it to a shop. also i read a realated link here that said the whole steering columb had to come down to change it?
maybe i was reading something from a g1 legend? does anyone have pictures or other info i could refer to as a guide while i'm changing it?

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Nah, you don't have to drop down the whole steering wheel columb unless you have to, but the deal here the ignition switch's located in a very tight place at the end of key cylinder portion and if you could SSSqueeze your hand in there to unscrew 2 screws that hold the electrical portion then you're half way home.
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no u don't need the key cylinder it usually the electrical portion that goes bad. And u can replace it yourself it will take you 5 min.GL
5 minutes, my ass. Try about an hour at least, maybe 2, particularly if there's an alarm wired into it. Takes longer than 5 minutes to get the goddamn molex plug disconnected from the fuse panel and the screws that hold the switch element in are a bitch to get to because they are at a real awkward angle.

Obviously, you've never done one and have just heard people talk about doing it. I've done 3 of them and they are a major PITA unless you have a real jones for lying on your back in the driver's side footwell looking up into a rat's nest of wiring.

People need to quit giving out garbage advice unless they have first hand experience.
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Yep, been there done that. I feel you Steve. It took me more than 1.5 hours just to remove and put that electrical switch back in place, not to mention about the after market alarm. 5 min is just rediculous insufficient time and impossible to to get it done specially lying on your back in the driver's side footwell looking up into a rat's nest of wiring, yeah: be my guest ... 5 min ...
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I feel ya, my brother. Hell, you can't even get the underdash panel & steering column covers off in 5 minutes!
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I feel ya, my brother. Hell, you can't even get the underdash panel & steering column covers off in 5 minutes!
Haha. +1. it's true. Well, good luck 95lgd and keep us posted.
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Nah, you don't have to drop down the whole steering wheel columb unless you have to, but the deal here the ignition switch's located in a very tight place at the end of key cylinder portion and if you could SSSqueeze your hand in there to unscrew 2 screws that hold the electrical portion then you're half way home.

i knew this wouldnt be easy, i bought the electrical portion from local acura dealer, 65.00 out the door. i got the 2 screws out from key cylinder portion in a few minutes with a short phillips head. now i cannot tell were the other end is/ goes?? it looks like it goes over the top of the steering columb to the left and plugs into a small thin wired connector, (i must be looking at it wrong) because its diff. than the part they gave me. it is extremely difficult looking upside down at that maze of wires (with aftermarket alarm lol!). WERE DOES THE OTHER END GO? does it go to the inside fuse box? or on on the floor, and what did someoe mean by removing steering columb covers? does it plug in there?
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i knew this wouldnt be easy, i bought the electrical portion from local acura dealer, 65.00 out the door. i got the 2 screws out from key cylinder portion in a few minutes with a short phillips head. now i cannot tell were the other end is/ goes?? it looks like it goes over the top of the steering columb to the left and plugs into a small thin wired connector, (i must be looking at it wrong) because its diff. than the part they gave me. it is extremely difficult looking upside down at that maze of wires (with aftermarket alarm lol!). WERE DOES THE OTHER END GO? does it go to the inside fuse box? or on on the floor, and what did someoe mean by removing steering columb covers? does it plug in there?
help!!!!!!!!!!!
That's it, you got it my friend, the other end goes to the fuse box, a flat head screw driver will be easier to help you push down the locking tap while trying pulling the whole ignition wires out. Once you plug the good one in, try to crank the car up and take care the aftermarket alarm later if you have it there (just copy the way the alarm wired to the new ignition switch: cut & slice wires and you're done).
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I've been there last month, and it sucked ass. I would turn the ignition all the way to III for start and it would not hold and go back to II. My dad had to sit in the passenger seat and hold it at III while I carefully drove the few blocks to Acura. It cost bank in labor, due to them having to re-wire the aftermarket Viper alarm.

Good luck with that.
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You'll have to trace the old one back to where it plugs into the fuse box. I think it's up in the top RH side of the box. Removing the steering column garnish just gives you more room to work.

Guess this has taken longer than 5 minutes. God, I'm such a smartass.
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