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There is a 91 sedan that I'm looking at to harvest many parts from it's interior. I too have a 91 sedan. I'd like to get the dash, console, seats, carpet, door panels and steering wheel. I don't think that I want to deal with the ceiling material (don't know how much more work that would be. I have a navy blue interior with a light blue for the ceiling material and the donor vehicle has a dark interior(blackish). So question for all you people (which I need soon ) is as follows:

1. The 91 donor has been fitted with the newer temperature control unit. What all do I need to get it to work with my current setup? wiring harness, etc, etc..
I don't want to forget import parts from the donor like computers and sensors - if any.

2. How hard is it to pull the steering wheel off? How do you replace the horn buttons. (one is taped on)

3. The donor vehicle has a passenger airbag and mine doesn't. What parts do I need to have to make the swap work. (Does this entail a different computer?)

4. My passenger seat is not powered, donor pass. seat is. Do I have the wire there already to make it work? Side note, the donor vehicle is somewhat already torn apart so no power to the seat. Any easy way to power it?

5. Anybody know of a good way to get the vin plate off the dash and tack it on to the donors?

6. My primary D3 light(regular drive mode) is out and also the low fuel warning light. Is this an easy replacement bulb?

If you can think of anything else that I'm sure I have forgot then please mention it.

Thanks for your help

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ari_one

Here are some answers:
1. Search for LS control swap.
2. Not hard but it is a lot easier with an impact wrench, also there are torx screws holding the airbag in place which can be a bit of a pain to get out. Recommend having a reverse threading screw extractor socket.
3. You'll also have to get the controller under the center console armrest along with the complete SRS wire harness, you might also need the clock spring but not sure on that one. (Bad plug here but I've got a good Dash with no airbag if you're interested.)
4. Probably not but easy to check by looking under your seat.
5. Just pop the rivets (with dremel or the like) and use a rivet gun to put your other one on.
6. If the donor car has the instrument cluster, swap that out. Otherwise the lights are really small and you will have to pull the cluster anyways.

good luck.

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Boru

Hi, wow, big swap, but possible! The coupe and sedan dashs are interchangeable, but model specific(L,LS.) The A/C controls vary
with model also. This post attempts to answer the airbag issue.
If you change the dash; the wiring harness dictates the components.
If the new dash has a passenger side airbag, you have a choice: same
harness, no airbag; or, new harness to include airbag. The AC and radio
may also be harness dependent. Staying model specific (L,LS) may be
easier in the long run. Keep posting, there are many details and many who can provide insight, Remember to use search function. You will find the HELM
manual very helpful: get one that matches our model nd year. I will stop at
this point, except to ask if you might have a friend who can help. Keep
researching, obtain HELM, keep posting, plan and just do it! Good luck.
This link may help:
DIY Dash removal writeup (Second Gen.)
Here is a picture of Kenso's dash showing the harness in place (no pass. airbag)
Dashboard replacement-wiring reuse

95LegendGS

Interior swap is CAKE if you've taken it apart before I've taken mine down to bare metal (roof and floor) takes about 8 hours first time dash is a little harder but thats tricks to getting it out faster. Personally I would not add the airbag just put it in and don't plug it in. The bulbs you get from acura. The LS swap if you have the harness you'll need some sensors from the front of the car and some from the HVAC unit. Just plug and play if you have the harness.

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11hopeful

Ari_one – I’ll look for the controller under the arm rest. I’m guessing that same controller controls both the driver and passenger air bags?
I might not pull the steering wheel if it’s going to be an issue although I’d like to get it since I think it matches the rest of the interior.
I don’t want the donor’s instrument cluster since it has many more miles than mine. If it’s possible to replace the bulbs then that may be an option I’ll have to evaluate.

Boru – I’m cautiously optimistic about the swap. One of the main reasons I’d like to do the swap is to get the passenger airbag setup. I don’t want all this to turn out into a bigger headache than planned for. I wonder if I should get all the harnesses I can get so I am not left without the necessary harness.

95LegendGS – I like the legend so I would do all this work, not for another can though. I definitely want to plug the passenger air bag but I’m worried that I won’t get it setup right. I’ll just follow the wires from the air bag and see where that leads me. Is there like a master wire harness that runs under the dash?
So just to be clear, not only am I going from an L to LS, but the donor car I’m harvesting from had had another donor that it got its parts from.

Does the carpet come up pretty easy or is it glued in?

One weird thing about my Legend is that both rear doors do not lock/unlock when I use the lock/unlock switch from both the inside driver and passenger doors? Actuators?

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ari_one

If you pull the instrument cluster you can easily swap the odometers to keep your real mileage. The SRS control box controls the whole setup. The SRS wire harness is easy to see as it is covered with yellow shielding. The carpet is not glued but you will need to remove both front seats, center console, and door sills. The main wire harness is connected to the dash so pull it as a whole, actually there are two wire harnesses, one for the instrument cluster and one for all the rest. Does the main switch unlock and lock the passenger door? If not then your problem is most likely the "lock" button on your main switch.

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11hopeful

ok my Lock switch is bad so that is very likely the culprit.

Do you know if the instrument cluster changed any between the years?

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Feuerstoss

All '91-'95 Legend instrument clusters are completely plug and play with another. If you wanted to get wild, you could even swap the gauges from later Legends.. '93-'95 Type 1 engine cars had a revised cluster face, and the Type 2 cars had a 160mph speedometer as well as a higher-redline tach)for the Type 2 engine; I wouldn't recommend using it on a Type 1 car). You can easily pull gauges/bulbs/etc out of the donor cluster and put it in your current one so you can keep your car's original mileage. As far as the bulbs go, all of 'em are replacable. The cluster's pretty easy to open once you get it out, too... there are four tabs on the bottom and three on the top that will allow you to remove the faceplate, and a bunch of screws on the back... it's pretty easy to do, honestly.

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Future mods:6-disc changer, CAI.

11hopeful

I've started to strip down the donor and things are going pretty smooth thus far. I haven't gotten to the dash yet. From what I've been reading, It sounds like the auto climate control is going to be a little challenge. If I'm reading these post correctly, I will still need to splice wires. So is it the wires into the control module that I'll splicing/matching? Would I have to cut the harness end that plugs into the the climate console and match that with anything?

One sensor I'm concerned is missing is the ambient sensor that is suppose to be near the radiator. Is it located between the bumper and the front of the radiator or is it between the rear of the radiator and the engine block.?

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Feuerstoss

Since you're tearing apart the entire interior for the swap, you might be able to get past most of the wiring issues. The car with the automatic climate control is already wired for it. You could just pull the entire dash(or cabin) wiring harness and swap it in completely with a lot less trouble than rewiring your car's current harness to run the climate control unit. Now, you will still need the sunlight sensor, the mode control motor, and both the temp sensors(the ambient temp sensor at the radiator; (sorry but I'm not sure where it's exactly located) and the coolant temp sensor at the heater core). Everything else should be plug and play from what I can tell.

I'm also unsure where the cabin wiring harness plugs into the main engine wring harness. You may have to find this info on the online service manual or through searching on this forum.

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1991 L Coupe 5-speed: 109K and still ticking.

Mods: '93-'95 Type I gauges, Alpine Type S 6.5" speakers all-around, '97 TL CD/tape HU, Manual woodgrain console.

Future mods:6-disc changer, CAI.

Boru

Wiring harness connects at driver's side kick panel link
Acura Legend Online Service Manual (Page: 0819)

One caution involves the glove box connector and the AC connector;
they are the same shape; but, different voltage. Mis-connect and the
AC control gets fried. That has happened to a couple of forum members.
Just label all conectors with tape to avoid mix-ups. (behind glove box.)

Also, there have been earlier threads about interior swaps with pictures
included. Sorry, I do not have a link. A search might produce some.
The online service manual has a section. There still is some guess work
involved. Sounds like you are underway. The results will make the effort
satisfying.

11hopeful

Thanks for the heads up Boru. I now have my interior almost completely torn out. The SRS harness from the donor car was extremely a pain to get out, but somehow I managed. The SRS conector that plugs into the fuse panel was terrible to get undone. I had to pry a tab like thing in order to get it to unclip. But in order to do that (mostly because I couldn't see why it wouldn't unclip) I had to remove the fuse panel to get a better look. I also took the modules that are under metal plates that are part of the SRS system. I don't know if I really needed the driver's side but I'm pretty sure I need the passengers. Getting the SRS harness is actually one of the worst parts about doing this swap.

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11hopeful

The blue/white wire that is sitting on the wrench. Where should this wire be connected to? It's quite a thick wire.

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11hopeful

alright people I need your help. I have almost everything put back together and have tested some electrical to be sure they work. I'm still having the same problem as before concerning the rear doors not locking/unlocking when I toggle the driver or passengers side switches. What is going on? Could this be actuators in the rear doors or do I need to look at the wiring? The rear doors have power as I'm able to roll both windows up and down and lock and unlock them from the doors themselves. I just can't control them from the front doors. I looked up the manual but I'm not really finding what I'm looking for. Well maybe I just am not looking hard enough!

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11hopeful

Alright guys talk to me cause I feel like I'm talking to myself.

Acura Legend Online Service Manual (Page: 1239)
The manual tells me that I have a disconnected or obstructed door lock rod/linkage. Anyone ever have this issue before? Strange that it is both rear doors and both the knob and switch are not working. Errrggg!!

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