Does your Legend crank but does not start? Here's a DIY diagnostic procedure - Page 3

SuperADHman · 11-12-07, 06:09 PM

So how about a situation where the fuel pump fuse in the kick box has no juice going to it yet the fuse itself is fine. Is this a sure sign that the relay is at fault?

**Mike Diaz** · 11-12-07, 09:25 PM

I believe that is correct. no power at the fuse box = bad main relay.

SuperADHman · 11-13-07, 12:21 AM

Sorry about that, upon closer inspection it is not the fuel pump fuse, but the 'Starter Signal' fuse in the interior fuse panel. It gets no power but the fuse is fine although I replaced it to make sure. Same issue though it cranks but no turn over.

**Mike Diaz** · 11-14-07, 05:50 PM

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Originally Posted by SuperADHman

Sorry about that, upon closer inspection it is not the fuel pump fuse, but the 'Starter Signal' fuse in the interior fuse panel. It gets no power but the fuse is fine although I replaced it to make sure. Same issue though it cranks but no turn over.

I gave you every bit of diagnosis information, please use it.

bryanbuck · 11-26-07, 07:24 PM

This is great info but I'm not sure if this relay is the same as the fuel relay. Is it? Do you know where I can find a detailed diagram of where it is located and how to replace it?

JamLegend · 12-02-07, 08:51 PM

Ok Mike and anyone else who knows this. My friends legend just lost power last Friday. It was almost like the tranny went out....it would rev in gear but would not put any power to the wheels. He got it into a parking lot and it shut off on him. He tried to start it again but it would not. I went to look at it tonight. When you try to start it, you could hear the starter running freely but it does not seem to be turning the engine over. It seem to be two problems, tranny and starter but it seem strange that both would go at the same time. What could cause the starter to just spin freely or give the sound that it is?

scott143 · 12-04-07, 07:11 PM

there is spark on 3 cylinders on one side of motor, no spark at all on the 3 cylinders on the other side.

**Mike Diaz** · 12-11-07, 08:06 AM

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Originally Posted by JamLegend

Ok Mike and anyone else who knows this. My friends legend just lost power last Friday. It was almost like the tranny went out....it would rev in gear but would not put any power to the wheels. He got it into a parking lot and it shut off on him. He tried to start it again but it would not. I went to look at it tonight. When you try to start it, you could hear the starter running freely but it does not seem to be turning the engine over. It seem to be two problems, tranny and starter but it seem strange that both would go at the same time. What could cause the starter to just spin freely or give the sound that it is?

Broken flywheel.

**Mike Diaz** · 12-11-07, 08:06 AM

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Originally Posted by scott143

there is spark on 3 cylinders on one side of motor, no spark at all on the 3 cylinders on the other side.

Either one of the ground wires that needs to be hooked up to the fuel rail, or the ignitor is probably bad.

JamLegend · 12-11-07, 07:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Mike Diaz

Broken flywheel.

I was afraid you'd say that. So is it easier to pull the engine out to fix this or pull the tranny out instead? What on the flywheel could break to cause this? the bolts?

I just cranked over the engine by hand and the cam pulleys turn so the timing belt is fine and I am getting compression while turning also.

Thanks.

superstreet4life · 02-12-08, 08:52 PM

well how bout a no crank and obviously no start i got in adn the car didnt even try to turn over just ....... nothin. so idk whats wrong with it??

**Mike Diaz** · 02-13-08, 04:21 PM

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Originally Posted by superstreet4life

well how bout a no crank and obviously no start i got in adn the car didnt even try to turn over just ....... nothin. so idk whats wrong with it??

1. Do the dash lights and headlights turn on?

2. Is your key hard to turn in the ignition?

3. Try shifting the car to neutral, with the parking brake on,

Try these 3 things and post your results.

cobrahatch · 02-15-08, 10:31 PM

ok thats what is weird my legend gets fire and fuel and starts while cranking until ya let off the key in start position and yes the dash lights come on the car was garaged for last 9 months by this older family and i found a wire chewed in half by a mouse so im trying to narrow down to mouse or relay ?

cobrahatch · 02-15-08, 10:35 PM

alos does anybody know what springs from different years of hondas etc will intechnge with the legend 89 2dr it seems like gen 1's just dont have a lot available and i have heard certain civics interchange etc lol any help will be greatly appreciated

Idol · 02-28-08, 08:51 PM

hi guys,
I've changed head gaskets (both) recently.
And after that I cannot start my car (Legend 91, 3.2).
I' ve checked everything.
When I crank voltage is down to 4-5V, is it normal? And main relay starts to click (after two sec).
Could anybody give me any idea where I should look?
Thanks in advance.

11-12-07, 06:09 PM	#31 (permalink)
SuperADHman Registered User Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Sacramento Posts: 2 Car 1: 1994 Acura Legend iTrader: (0)	Fuses So how about a situation where the fuel pump fuse in the kick box has no juice going to it yet the fuse itself is fine. Is this a sure sign that the relay is at fault?

11-12-07, 09:25 PM	#32 (permalink)
Mike Diaz WHAAAAAH! Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: N Canton, Ohio Posts: 10,983 Car 1: 3.5L 1991 LS Coupe 5 Spd Blk/Blk Car 2: 1994 Civic EG Hatch Car 3: 03 Honda TRX400EX iTrader: (2)	I believe that is correct. no power at the fuse box = bad main relay. __________________ 2nd Gen FAQ \| Newbie FAQ \| Bleeding Coolant DIY \| Manual Trans Flush DIY 3.5L DIY \| Crank-No Start Diagnosis \| How I built My Legend

11-13-07, 12:21 AM	#33 (permalink)
SuperADHman Registered User Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Sacramento Posts: 2 Car 1: 1994 Acura Legend iTrader: (0)	Fuse Sorry about that, upon closer inspection it is not the fuel pump fuse, but the 'Starter Signal' fuse in the interior fuse panel. It gets no power but the fuse is fine although I replaced it to make sure. Same issue though it cranks but no turn over.

11-26-07, 07:24 PM	#35 (permalink)
bryanbuck Registered User Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: USA Posts: 4 iTrader: (0)	Dumb question This is great info but I'm not sure if this relay is the same as the fuel relay. Is it? Do you know where I can find a detailed diagram of where it is located and how to replace it?

12-02-07, 08:51 PM	#36 (permalink)
JamLegend Registered User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Lansing, Michigan Posts: 817 Car 1: 1992 Legend L Sedan Car 2: 2005 Odyssey EX iTrader: (1)	Ok Mike and anyone else who knows this. My friends legend just lost power last Friday. It was almost like the tranny went out....it would rev in gear but would not put any power to the wheels. He got it into a parking lot and it shut off on him. He tried to start it again but it would not. I went to look at it tonight. When you try to start it, you could hear the starter running freely but it does not seem to be turning the engine over. It seem to be two problems, tranny and starter but it seem strange that both would go at the same time. What could cause the starter to just spin freely or give the sound that it is? __________________ 1992 L Sedan - Phantom Gray Pearl (Black/Black) (159K) 2005 Odyssey EX-L - Silver Pearl Metalic (48K) 1991 LS Sedan - Geneva Green on Tan (180k)(sold) 1992 L Sedan - Seattle Silver on Taupe (156k) (sold) 1991 LS Sedan - Geneva Green on Tan (156K)(sold) 1994 GS 6-speed - Sherwood Green on Tan (134K)(sold) 1993 LS 6-speed coupe - Granada Black Pearl on Tan (158K)(sold)

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12-04-07, 07:11 PM	#37 (permalink)
scott143 Registered User Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Seattle WA Posts: 3 Car 1: 1991 legend Coupe iTrader: (0)	spark only on one side of motor there is spark on 3 cylinders on one side of motor, no spark at all on the 3 cylinders on the other side.

02-12-08, 08:52 PM	#41 (permalink)
superstreet4life JDM 4 life Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Massachusetts Posts: 383 Car 1: '93 Legend L Sedan 5 Spd w/ Cloth Inteior iTrader: (3)	well how bout a no crank and obviously no start i got in adn the car didnt even try to turn over just ....... nothin. so idk whats wrong with it?? __________________

02-15-08, 10:31 PM	#43 (permalink)
cobrahatch Registered User Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: linton Posts: 5 Car 1: 96 neon Car 2: 67 ford f100(bagged) Car 3: 89 acura 2dr iTrader: (0)	ok thats what is weird my legend gets fire and fuel and starts while cranking until ya let off the key in start position and yes the dash lights come on the car was garaged for last 9 months by this older family and i found a wire chewed in half by a mouse so im trying to narrow down to mouse or relay ?

02-15-08, 10:35 PM	#44 (permalink)
cobrahatch Registered User Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: linton Posts: 5 Car 1: 96 neon Car 2: 67 ford f100(bagged) Car 3: 89 acura 2dr iTrader: (0)	alos does anybody know what springs from different years of hondas etc will intechnge with the legend 89 2dr it seems like gen 1's just dont have a lot available and i have heard certain civics interchange etc lol any help will be greatly appreciated

02-28-08, 08:51 PM	#45 (permalink)
Idol Registered User Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: CHCH Posts: 3 Car 1: Honda Legend (91) iTrader: (0)	hi guys, I've changed head gaskets (both) recently. And after that I cannot start my car (Legend 91, 3.2). I' ve checked everything. When I crank voltage is down to 4-5V, is it normal? And main relay starts to click (after two sec). Could anybody give me any idea where I should look? Thanks in advance.

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