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Old 01-12-04, 01:19 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Frozen steering in cold weather????

Lately it has been cold for us down in the south (20s, not cold for most, but about as cold as it gets down there.) When I start my car in the morning I have no steering. It is impossible for me to turn the wheel at all. then, I can turn it slightly and it is like having no power steering at all. Then as it gets warmer after about 5min of driving and moving the wheel back and forth it warms up and gets back to normal. I did a search and found one other occurance of this and noone gave a solution. I also found out that the fluid shouldn't freeze up untill about 40below 0.


I cant figure it out. Maybe some moisture has built up in my power steering fluid? Anyone have any ideas? Is anything wrong with my car. I need to get this problem cleared up. If it is moisture in the fluid how i would I go about flushing my system? Any help/expirience/reccomendations would be thankful. Thanks again, Tim
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Old 01-12-04, 02:43 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Ive got the same problem,.....

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no help yet....I think it has something to do with water getting into the system somewhere....
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Did you try changing out your power steering fluid with new stuff? How is the PS fluid level? Have any leaks?
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dont worry man, its normal for an old car, mine does the same, it just takes a while for the fluid to circulate in the cold.
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yeah mine did the same....just warm up your car and you'll be fine
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Mine was doing that last week. I changed out the fluid with new Honda fluid and it has been a little better, but it still happens.
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Take it to one of those places that has that circulating machine that will flush out the whole power steering system. I had a Grand Am that was doing the same thing as it got older. If you checked the fluid it was literally frozen. Only costs like $60-$70 to have done, which is a lot cheaper than burning out a power steering pump.
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yeah, i'm in CT now and yeah, it's FREAKING COLD!! Good thing i have a remote starter so i just start that car up before i even get out there.. but couple times lately i went out and had to rock the steering back and forth to warm it up before it got fully loose.. i was gonna ask but i guess i know why...
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This is the second question I have asked where people have tried to tell me "Oh that is normal" This really irritates me. Its not right and I want to know what to do to go about correcting it. A car shouldn't do this, even if only one, or if 50 of htem do it, its not "normal" I think I am going to try and flush the fluid and replace with fresh stuff, and I will call my local shop and see what they have to say.

Thanks for the help from everyone. Any more ideas on what will fix it or how to flush the steering fluid the best? -Tim
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well the fluid wont warm up instantly and even tho it's not frozen that doesn't mean it'll run just like it was not cold.. when it's cold it maybe a lil thicker cuz of the extra moisture. And cuz this car is say 12yrs old and running that good i don't think it's that big of a problem since you are spose to wait till the engine warms up anyways.. and by then the steering is free...
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Tim92LS,
You are correct - it is NOT normal for the power steering to do this, even if it is 10 years old; but it does happen, for these reasons:

1. failing power steering pump
2. clogged power steering pipes (pressure pipe/hose and the return pipe/hose).
3. clogged and sticky steering gear box/rack.
4. moisture in the PS fluid and/or viscosity breakdown.

Your PS fluid is probably original - Acura does not mention changing it in their normal maintenance schedule. I'm sure that it has deteriorated over these years. Try putting new fluid in it, then bleed all the air out. Is it leaking anywhere where moisture can enter the system?

If you've checked all of the above, the actual problem may lie within the steering rack. The valves and/or o-ring seals are probably getting stuck. It is more common on older cars when it is cold, but the only known cure would be to replace the rack if all else fails.
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This is the second question I have asked where people have tried to tell me "Oh that is normal" This really irritates me. Its not right and I want to know what to do to go about correcting it.
LOOK 2 posts up from yours....AGENTSMITH ANSWERED YOUR QUESTION. People that always want more irritate me.
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