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Old 11-19-03, 12:10 PM   #1 (permalink)
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hydro locked engine...how to fix?

ALRIGHT. I do not want ONE! PERSON! saying, GET A NEW ENGINE. NOT ONE. I want to fix this, not give up. I do not want someone saying, DUDE, YOUR ENGINE IS DEAD! If you do not have some kind of information to help fix the problem, dont talk.

So far, I have changed the oil, to make sure there wasnt water in the crank case or anything like that. Tomorrow I am going to check the spark plugs to see if they have water on them, or just smell like gas.

What else can I do to check things out before taking it to a mechanic.

I have a decent amount of tools, or can get a bunch of tools. I would rather not take the engine apart myself if at all possible. I have a haynes manual...no helms yet, so engine rebuild isnt really possible at this point. I can get access to a lift, and I can get it put on a trailer to a shop or a lift or anything like that.

What can I do to help out the problem. I do not think the engine is gone anyway. I was going less than 20 mph, and my foot was on the clutch so the engine was barely running anyway.

Any ideas besides a new engine I am up to try. So please, help me out so I dont have to get rid of my car.
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ALRIGHT. I do not want ONE! PERSON! saying, GET A NEW ENGINE. NOT ONE. I want to fix this, not give up. I do not want someone saying, DUDE, YOUR ENGINE IS DEAD! If you do not have some kind of information to help fix the problem, dont talk.

So far, I have changed the oil, to make sure there wasnt water in the crank case or anything like that. Tomorrow I am going to check the spark plugs to see if they have water on them, or just smell like gas.

What else can I do to check things out before taking it to a mechanic.

I have a decent amount of tools, or can get a bunch of tools. I would rather not take the engine apart myself if at all possible. I have a haynes manual...no helms yet, so engine rebuild isnt really possible at this point. I can get access to a lift, and I can get it put on a trailer to a shop or a lift or anything like that.

What can I do to help out the problem. I do not think the engine is gone anyway. I was going less than 20 mph, and my foot was on the clutch so the engine was barely running anyway.

Any ideas besides a new engine I am up to try. So please, help me out so I dont have to get rid of my car.
How you hydrolock the engine? Sucked up water with CAI?
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Old 11-19-03, 12:29 PM   #3 (permalink)
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That is what I am assuming, but I didnt even go through standing water. I think it was partially because of the people next to me spraying water all over my car, and the people going the opposite way spraying water all over my car....

once it starts working, AEM bypass, along with a shied to cover up the wheel well lining hole...
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what you could do is remove all your spark plugs and turn the engine a few times. THis is spray the water out through the plug holes.

its an old old trick :p my automechanics teacher told us about it.
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GET A NEW ENGINE!!!

JK man, hope you get it taken care of. Wish I could be of some help but I have no knowlege of internal engine workings. I do have AAA though so if you need a tow let me know.

Good luck man and sorry to hear about it.
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Drain and refill oil (again)...

Drop oil pan, check pump assembly...

Remove plugs, allow some air to get in there... Then like Bang said, crank the engine WITH YOUR INJETOR HARNESSES UNPLUGGED...

Get some Marvel Mystery Oil... Lubricate the engine by dumping some in, then turn your engine over (make sure that you have oil in it...)

Let it stand for a day or so, dry anything that was wet out some more...

Check oil level, if needbe, put some cheapie stuff in, crank the car some more, then drain it back out...

Replace plugs, fill car with better oil, change filter, reinstall coils, fire it up... see what happens...
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This is why I don't drive my baby in the rain.. :p
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yup, your gonna have to open it up(pull plugs and maybe oil pan) and let it dry. sounds like you didnt get that much water in there. if you need help, call me and ill make a run up there, but i wont be free til this weekend, got 3 tests and a project due thursay and friday
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i did not really have a choice. i have a class, and i dont have anyones car to borrow.
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Old 11-20-03, 03:40 AM   #11 (permalink)
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Are you sure your engine is Hydraulic locked? Would it not turn over? It would be very difficult to get water all the way to the cylinders by just driving through water and being splashed. Did the car stall and sit in deep water?

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Are you sure your engine is Hydraulic locked? Would it not turn over? It would be very difficult to get water all the way to the cylinders by just driving through water and being splashed. Did the car stall and sit in deep water?

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Not if you have a CAI that's sucking air/water from under the bumper
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Not if you have a CAI that's sucking air/water from under the bumper
yup, and phillip has a one piece cai, as soon as his filter gets soaked, water gets sucked right up.
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Old 11-20-03, 08:41 AM   #14 (permalink)
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In any motor that I have seen that was truly hydrolocked..... it made the rod look like an "S". Good luck.... Hopefully it just stalled on you, but if the motor wont turn..... its bad.
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ya, it just stalled.

ITS ALIVE THOUGH!!!!. i took out the spark plugs and cranked the engine, and a crapload of water shot out of it.

i cleaned out the spark plug holes, and the plugs, and all that jazz.

its been running for a good 20 minutes fine, im about to go check it again in a second, but it should be fine.

thanks to everyone who helped me out. i lucked out, and a bypass valve will be in the mail ASAP. no more driving in the rain for me, at least until i get that.
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