Left Rear Window won't go up!!!

mystican · 04-02-08, 11:33 PM

My left rear window won't go up and it is stuck in the down position...wife doesn't like it. Friend thinks it is the window switch. The drivers control for the left rear window does not work as well. Are these switches in series? Need help to just get the window up!

ari_one · 04-03-08, 12:03 AM

I'm assuming the other windows work! If neither the master or the door's own switch don't work, it is usually either the motor is gone or there is a problem with the connection either in the door or where it plugs into the main left side wire harness (in the center post).

IvAn_120 · 04-03-08, 12:28 AM

man i have that problem all the time it happed today dont worry just play with both front and the back swatch and it will go up
and it is not the swatches it is the wire connection in the door
if u lessen carefully u will hear the motor working when u bring it down but it does not work when u move it up

phyrexia19 · 04-03-08, 12:42 AM

if you have a volt meter unplug motor pigtail and check for 12v between both wires when switch is depressed. if you have power the motor is at fault. if not wiring/fuses/switches are at fault. track voltage backwards towards source

mystican · 04-03-08, 03:27 AM

the motor is not at fault...I took apart the left rear window panel and using two paper clips, I extended the male connecter for the window motor and flipped it. Using the extended prongs made by the paper clips, I flipped the female connector and connected it to my paper clips and simultaneously pushed down on the window switch. The window went up! So I dont think it is the window motor. I think it is the left rear window switch.

Jetdoc · 04-03-08, 05:43 AM

My problem was in the connector thats in the center post.

mystican · 04-03-08, 01:36 PM

What was wrong with your B pillar connector? I dont think it is the window switch anymore b/c I took the opposite door switch off and tested on the left rear door and it didnt work. The master door switch (only the left rear switch in particular) also doesnt operate correctly. Can you elaborate on your B pillar connector issue?

ari_one · 04-03-08, 02:41 PM

Sometimes you just end up getting water etc over time into the connector (via the rubber piece in pic if it breaks) or one of the pins gets loose. Some have been able to fix by just cleaning and adding some dielectric grease.

mystican · 04-07-08, 07:09 PM

OK so I took apart the B pillar connector and cleaned it. The let rear window will go down, but not back up. The master control switch controlling the left rear window still does not work. I am starting to think the problem lies with the the drivers master control switch. Any ideas?

EDIT

I got a used master switch. I plugged it in and it did not change to situation. The left rear window will go down, but not go up. I have checked the B pillar connector, the left rear window connector, and changed the driver's master power switch. Anybody with some ideas?

Markus · 05-09-08, 04:12 PM

I have the same problem. The window goes down, but not up. My temporary solution was to reverse the up and down wires off the switch on the door. That enabled me to raise the window. Its disconnected now, but if I can't get the switch to work both ways, I am going to replace it.

ari_one · 05-09-08, 06:53 PM

If both of you have done the following:

1. swapped another window switch
2. reversed the wires to the motor can get the motor to go up by reversing wires
3. swapped master switches

and the symptoms are still the same then you must have a problem with either:

a) the wiring between the switch and the b-pillar connector
b) the wiring between the b-pillar and fuse box.

Easy option, pick up a rear door wire harness and test it out without installing inside door to find eliminate that wire harness.

Dethred · 05-31-08, 05:37 PM

Someone needs to explain this better. I hear "reverse wires" with no detail as to the dozen or so wires in the door. Be specific.

ari_one · 05-31-08, 07:26 PM

There are only two wires that go to the motor itself, so if you reverse those two then the switch will work in the opposite direction.

Nekkro-Kvlt · 06-02-08, 12:05 PM

Hi, I've got exactly the same problem. My window roll down, but not up, I checked voltage, I have +12 when rolling down, but -6 when rolling up, which is not enough. I Jumped the wires to get my window up and it works. I'd like to check the wire between door and B Pillar, but I don't know how. Should I Remove the door entirely ? I can't find it in the service manual. Thanks

ari_one · 06-02-08, 12:35 PM

Check out the TSB linked below:

http://www.acuraworld.com/tsb/1993/B93-021.pdf

04-02-08, 11:33 PM	#1 (permalink)
mystican Registered User Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: chicago area Posts: 48 Car 1: 1991 Gold Legend L Car 2: 1991 Gray Legend L iTrader: (0)	Left Rear Window won't go up!!! My left rear window won't go up and it is stuck in the down position...wife doesn't like it. Friend thinks it is the window switch. The drivers control for the left rear window does not work as well. Are these switches in series? Need help to just get the window up!

04-03-08, 12:03 AM	#2 (permalink)
ari_one Registered User Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Phoenix Posts: 1,301 Car 1: 1991 Legend Car 2: 1991 Legend Car 3: 95 ZX-7 iTrader: (27)	I'm assuming the other windows work! If neither the master or the door's own switch don't work, it is usually either the motor is gone or there is a problem with the connection either in the door or where it plugs into the main left side wire harness (in the center post). __________________ Parting out my Red and White 91 L Sedans (mostly type 'F', some type 'E'): http://www.acura-legend.com/vbulleti...nix-az-122896/ or http://phoenix.craigslist.org/pts/692673856.html Parts for sale: http://s265.photobucket.com/albums/i...albumview=grid Controls for sale: http://s265.photobucket.com/albums/i...%20For%20Sale/

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IvAn_120 Registered User Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: canada Posts: 17 Car 1: legend iTrader: (0)	man i have that problem all the time it happed today dont worry just play with both front and the back swatch and it will go up and it is not the swatches it is the wire connection in the door if u lessen carefully u will hear the motor working when u bring it down but it does not work when u move it up __________________ ^^^^ go hart, or go home ^^^^^* IVAN_120 1991 LeGeNd black * 5 speed loving it with 7" tuch screen in dash tv 13 1/2" LCD over head tv 18" (215/35/18r) and other small things ~~~ They all start hating cause you got a Legend but it doesn't matter cause they are just jealous~~~

04-03-08, 05:43 AM	#6 (permalink)
Jetdoc FIXER Join Date: May 2002 Location: Memphis, TN Posts: 1,647 Car 1: 1992 Legend L 265k Black(sold) 1994 Legend LS 175K Green 1967 NOVA SS Bolero Red iTrader: (0)	My problem was in the connector thats in the center post. __________________ People are often reluctant to pay for good advice but rarely follow free advice.

04-03-08, 02:41 PM	#8 (permalink)
ari_one Registered User Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Phoenix Posts: 1,301 Car 1: 1991 Legend Car 2: 1991 Legend Car 3: 95 ZX-7 iTrader: (27)	Sometimes you just end up getting water etc over time into the connector (via the rubber piece in pic if it breaks) or one of the pins gets loose. Some have been able to fix by just cleaning and adding some dielectric grease. __________________ Parting out my Red and White 91 L Sedans (mostly type 'F', some type 'E'): http://www.acura-legend.com/vbulleti...nix-az-122896/ or http://phoenix.craigslist.org/pts/692673856.html Parts for sale: http://s265.photobucket.com/albums/i...albumview=grid Controls for sale: http://s265.photobucket.com/albums/i...%20For%20Sale/

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04-03-08, 12:42 AM	#4 (permalink)
phyrexia19 Registered User Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: greenville, sc Posts: 11 Car 1: 95 Acura Legend Coupe LS Type 2 (currently own 2) Car 2: 89 nissan 240sx HB Car 3: 73 Dodge Charger iTrader: (0)	if you have a volt meter unplug motor pigtail and check for 12v between both wires when switch is depressed. if you have power the motor is at fault. if not wiring/fuses/switches are at fault. track voltage backwards towards source

04-03-08, 03:27 AM	#5 (permalink)
mystican Registered User Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: chicago area Posts: 48 Car 1: 1991 Gold Legend L Car 2: 1991 Gray Legend L iTrader: (0)	the motor is not at fault...I took apart the left rear window panel and using two paper clips, I extended the male connecter for the window motor and flipped it. Using the extended prongs made by the paper clips, I flipped the female connector and connected it to my paper clips and simultaneously pushed down on the window switch. The window went up! So I dont think it is the window motor. I think it is the left rear window switch.

04-03-08, 01:36 PM	#7 (permalink)
mystican Registered User Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: chicago area Posts: 48 Car 1: 1991 Gold Legend L Car 2: 1991 Gray Legend L iTrader: (0)	What was wrong with your B pillar connector? I dont think it is the window switch anymore b/c I took the opposite door switch off and tested on the left rear door and it didnt work. The master door switch (only the left rear switch in particular) also doesnt operate correctly. Can you elaborate on your B pillar connector issue?

04-07-08, 07:09 PM	#9 (permalink)
mystican Registered User Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: chicago area Posts: 48 Car 1: 1991 Gold Legend L Car 2: 1991 Gray Legend L iTrader: (0)	OK so I took apart the B pillar connector and cleaned it. The let rear window will go down, but not back up. The master control switch controlling the left rear window still does not work. I am starting to think the problem lies with the the drivers master control switch. Any ideas? EDIT I got a used master switch. I plugged it in and it did not change to situation. The left rear window will go down, but not go up. I have checked the B pillar connector, the left rear window connector, and changed the driver's master power switch. Anybody with some ideas? Last edited by mystican : 04-16-08 at 12:29 AM. Reason: Update

05-09-08, 04:12 PM	#10 (permalink)
Markus Registered User Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Pittsburgh, PA Posts: 16 Car 1: 1994 White 4 door L sedan iTrader: (0)	short term solution I have the same problem. The window goes down, but not up. My temporary solution was to reverse the up and down wires off the switch on the door. That enabled me to raise the window. Its disconnected now, but if I can't get the switch to work both ways, I am going to replace it.

05-09-08, 06:53 PM	#11 (permalink)
ari_one Registered User Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Phoenix Posts: 1,301 Car 1: 1991 Legend Car 2: 1991 Legend Car 3: 95 ZX-7 iTrader: (27)	If both of you have done the following: 1. swapped another window switch 2. reversed the wires to the motor can get the motor to go up by reversing wires 3. swapped master switches and the symptoms are still the same then you must have a problem with either: a) the wiring between the switch and the b-pillar connector b) the wiring between the b-pillar and fuse box. Easy option, pick up a rear door wire harness and test it out without installing inside door to find eliminate that wire harness. __________________ Parting out my Red and White 91 L Sedans (mostly type 'F', some type 'E'): http://www.acura-legend.com/vbulleti...nix-az-122896/ or http://phoenix.craigslist.org/pts/692673856.html Parts for sale: http://s265.photobucket.com/albums/i...albumview=grid Controls for sale: http://s265.photobucket.com/albums/i...%20For%20Sale/

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Dethred Fall 08' rebirth! Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Yorktown, VA Posts: 3,689 Car 1: 2008 Honda Civic Si Coupe Car 2: 92' Acura Legend SDN iTrader: (2)	Someone needs to explain this better. I hear "reverse wires" with no detail as to the dozen or so wires in the door. Be specific.

05-31-08, 07:26 PM	#13 (permalink)
ari_one Registered User Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Phoenix Posts: 1,301 Car 1: 1991 Legend Car 2: 1991 Legend Car 3: 95 ZX-7 iTrader: (27)	There are only two wires that go to the motor itself, so if you reverse those two then the switch will work in the opposite direction. __________________ Parting out my Red and White 91 L Sedans (mostly type 'F', some type 'E'): http://www.acura-legend.com/vbulleti...nix-az-122896/ or http://phoenix.craigslist.org/pts/692673856.html Parts for sale: http://s265.photobucket.com/albums/i...albumview=grid Controls for sale: http://s265.photobucket.com/albums/i...%20For%20Sale/

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Nekkro-Kvlt Registered User Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: France Posts: 121 Car 1: Honda Legend iTrader: (0)	Hi, I've got exactly the same problem. My window roll down, but not up, I checked voltage, I have +12 when rolling down, but -6 when rolling up, which is not enough. I Jumped the wires to get my window up and it works. I'd like to check the wire between door and B Pillar, but I don't know how. Should I Remove the door entirely ? I can't find it in the service manual. Thanks

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06-02-08, 12:35 PM	#15 (permalink)
ari_one Registered User Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Phoenix Posts: 1,301 Car 1: 1991 Legend Car 2: 1991 Legend Car 3: 95 ZX-7 iTrader: (27)	Check out the TSB linked below: http://www.acuraworld.com/tsb/1993/B93-021.pdf __________________ Parting out my Red and White 91 L Sedans (mostly type 'F', some type 'E'): http://www.acura-legend.com/vbulleti...nix-az-122896/ or http://phoenix.craigslist.org/pts/692673856.html Parts for sale: http://s265.photobucket.com/albums/i...albumview=grid Controls for sale: http://s265.photobucket.com/albums/i...%20For%20Sale/