legendarywhite

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Personally I wouldn't touch it, especially for anything near to 5 grand. Does he know you know its got a salvage title? Only way I'd buy that was if it were cheap and I wanted a project car.

 

Ken

good luck, man, dang thats horrible!

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Dav5049915

it may not be as bad as you think, maybe the first guy that owned it crashed it, but it wasn't a severe total (like the whole front end got ripped off) and he just totaled it to get the money for a new car.

but then again, it is from texas, and i was told that you wanna be careful with cars from texas b/c they have ways to get around titles or something like that.

at least get the car a 120 point (or something like that) inspection. and maybe try to get a hold of the first owner to find out about the car.

i wouldn't jump on the deal yet. plus, 5k for a totaled car? i'd bring that up.

EGlovr

thanks for the help guys, i just realized i posted in the first gen place. thanks for the help though. where could i get a 120 pt. inspection from? carmax?

EGlovr

ive been a member on here for a while, and i have to admit ive learned a lot by just sitting back and watching. but now i need some advice from you guys. i came up on a deal for a 92 legend coupe for $5000 about three months ago. i didnt have the funds together, so dude told me he'd give me 1.5 months to come up with the money and even lowered the price to $4750. i ran a carfax; and it said that it was junked, then salvaged; but after that it passes emissions. now i test drove the car and it seemed like everything was in working order. now that i have the funds ready, i dont want to waste it on something that i cant even register (im in maryland). here's a copy of the carfax....


ALERT! Severe problems (major accidents, fire, flood damage, major odometer problems or lemon history) were reported by a Department of Motor Vehicles (DMV) for this 1992 ACURA LEGEND LS (JH4KA8273NC001520). This vehicle does NOT qualify for the CARFAX Buyback Guarantee.

CARFAX Talking CarTM
The story of this 1992 ACURA LEGEND LS (JH4KA8273NC001520) according to our interpretation of the information reported to CARFAX:
This coupe has had 2 owners and was owned in Texas. The first title for this coupe was reported to CARFAX by a Texas DMV in 1992.
It was severely damaged and issued a Junk and Salvage title by a DMV. It was later issued a Rebuilt title by a Texas DMV, which allows for the vehicle to be repaired and returned to the road.
It has a consistent mileage history with no indication of an odometer rollback. It was driven an average of 12,271 miles per year, which is lower than the industry average of 15,000. The last odometer reading, reported on 01/22/2003, was 129,853 miles.
It was not reported to a DMV as a Manufacturer Buyback (LEMON).

Report Summary
1. ACCIDENT CHECK

Total Loss Check Severe Accident or Total Loss Event Reported to DMV
Other Accident Indicators No Accident Indicators Reported
2. MILEAGE ACCURACY CHECK

Truth-In-Mileage Check No Odometer Problems Reported to DMV
Odometer Rollback Check No Potential Odometer Rollback Found
Mileage Consistency Check No Inconsistent Odometer Reading Found
3. LEMON CHECK®
No Mfr. Buyback Reported to DMV
4. OWNERSHIP CHECK

Number of Owners 2 Estimated Owner(s)
Type of Owners Checked 9 Types of Vehicle Registrations
5. RECALL CHECK
ACURA Does Not Report Recalls to CARFAX
6. WARRANTY CHECK
No Data Reported to CARFAX
DETAILED VEHICLE HISTORY 14 HISTORY RECORDS REPORTED
Tell us what you know about this vehicle

Year/Make/Model: 1992 ACURA LEGEND LS

Body Style: COUPE
Engine: 3.2L V6 SOHC PFI 24V
Fuel: GASOLINE
Driveline: FRONT WHEEL DRIVE
Manufactured in: JAPAN
Safety Equipment: 4 wheel ABS, Dual front air bags/belt system unknown

Standard Equipment: Power Windows, Power Steering, Air Conditioning, AM / FM Cassette, Power Brakes, Power sun / moon roof, Tilt Wheel

Total Loss Check:

ALERT! Severe damage events were reported by a DMV for this 1992 ACURA LEGEND LS (JH4KA8273NC001520). This vehicle does NOT qualify for the CARFAX Buyback Guarantee.

Salvage Title Reported No Loss Due To Fire Title Reported
Junk Title Reported No Flood Damage Title Reported
Rebuilt/Reconstructed Title Reported No Hail Damage Title Reported
No Dismantled Title Reported No Canadian Total Loss Record Reported

Other Accident Indicators:

This 1992 ACURA LEGEND LS (JH4KA8273NC001520) had no accident indicators reported to CARFAX from its sources. This section checks for accidents and/or related damage reported from many public and private sources. Not all accidents are reported to CARFAX. A vehicle inspection completed by your dealer or professional mechanic is recommended.

No Salvage Auction Record Reported No Crash Test Vehicle Record Reported
No Fire Damage Record Reported No Airbag Deployment Record Reported
No Police Accident Record Reported No Damage Disclosure Record Reported

Truth-In-Mileage Check:

None of the following major odometer problems were ever reported by a DMV under the Truth-In-Mileage Act for this 1992 ACURA LEGEND LS (JH4KA8273NC001520).

Not Actual Mileage Title - issued by DMV when the owner discloses mileage fraud or a broken odometer.
Exceeds Mechanical Limits Title - issued by DMV when the owner discloses an odometer rollover.

Odometer Rollback Check:

CARFAX found no odometer rollbacks for this 1992 ACURA LEGEND LS (JH4KA8273NC001520). Rollbacks reported in this section originate from readings collected by a DMV or other verifiable source.

Mileage Consistency Check:

CARFAX found no inconsistent odometer readings in the mileage history of this 1992 ACURA LEGEND LS (JH4KA8273NC001520).

Date: Mileage:
06/26/1992 23
07/20/1996 90,929
01/27/1998 107,722
01/30/1999 115,663
05/06/1999 116,299
07/15/1999 118,246
09/28/1999 118,618
11/01/2000 127,210
01/22/2003 129,853

Average miles driven per year 12,271 CARFAX AdvisorTM Compare this vehicle's average annual mileage to the industry average of 15,000 miles per year. Use this comparison to determine how this vehicle was driven.

Mileage Accuracy Check FAQs:
Mileage Accuracy FAQs | Glossary | CARFAX Help Center

No manufacturer buyback was ever reported by a DMV for this 1992 ACURA LEGEND LS (JH4KA8273NC001520).

Lemon Check FAQs:
Lemon Check FAQs | Glossary | CARFAX Help Center

Ownership History:

CARFAX estimates that this 1992 ACURA LEGEND LS (JH4KA8273NC001520) had 2 owner(s). CARFAX analyzed this vehicle's title history and other supporting events to identify potential ownership transfers. In compliance with the U.S. privacy laws, CARFAX does not collect or report owner names or addresses.

Estimated Owners: Date: Location:
1st owner 06/26/1992 Texas
2nd owner 05/06/1999 Texas

CARFAX AdvisorTM
The cost of ownership varies by vehicle. Go to Edmunds.com to check the recommended service schedule and estimated costs for this vehicle.

Types of Owners:

This 1992 ACURA LEGEND LS (JH4KA8273NC001520) was checked for 9 types of registrations.

No Personal Use Registration Reported No Fleet Registration Reported
No Lease Registration Reported No Commercial Registration Reported
No Rental Registration Reported No Non-Profit Registration Reported
No Government Registration Reported No Built to Non U.S. Standards Record Reported
No Taxi Registration Reported

Recall Check FAQs:
Recall FAQs | Glossary | CARFAX Help Center

CARFAX cannot calculate the remaining coverage for this 1992 ACURA LEGEND LS (JH4KA8273NC001520) because no original manufacturer warranty information was reported to CARFAX by its source.

Estimated start date of warranty: 06/26/1992
Last reading reported on 01/22/2003: 129,853 miles
Today's Date: April 6, 2004

Type of Coverage: Original Warranty:
Basic No data reported to CARFAX
Drivetrain No data reported to CARFAX
Emissions No data reported to CARFAX
Corrosion No data reported to CARFAX
Transferable No data reported to CARFAX
Roadside Assistance No data reported to CARFAX
Safety belt & inflatable restraint No data reported to CARFAX

CARFAX Warranty Check provides an estimate of this vehicle's remaining warranty coverage. It does not take into account some vehicle history events. For example, major accidents resulting in Salvage or Junk titles that may void the original manufacturer warranty or ownership transfers that may decrease warranty coverage. Complete warranty coverage information is available for this vehicle at the at the ACURA web site.

Warranty Calculator FAQs:
Warranty FAQs | Glossary | CARFAX Help Center

CARFAX searched more than 2.7 billion records from over 5,300 sources and found 14 record(s) for this 1992 ACURA LEGEND LS (JH4KA8273NC001520).

Date:
Mileage Reading:
Source:
General Comments:

06/26/1992 23 Texas
Motor Vehicle Dept.
Corpus Christi, TX
Title #35281635
Title or registration issued
First owner reported

07/20/1996 90,929 Texas
Motor Vehicle Dept.
Dallas, TX
Title #00022200050739116
Title or registration issued
Loan or lien reported

07/20/1996 Texas
Motor Vehicle Dept.
Dallas, TX
Title #00022200050739116
Title or registration issued
Loan or lien reported

07/20/1996 Texas
Motor Vehicle Dept.
Dallas, TX
Title #00022200050739116
Title or registration issued
Loan or lien reported

01/30/1997 Texas
Inspection Station
Dallas, TX
Passed emissions inspection

01/27/1998 107,722 Texas
Inspection Station
Dallas, TX
Passed emissions inspection

01/30/1999 115,663 Texas
Inspection Station
Dallas, TX
Passed emissions inspection

05/06/1999 116,299 Texas
Motor Vehicle Dept.
Irving, TX
Title #04332836275162255
Title or registration issued
New owner reported
Loan or lien reported

07/15/1999 118,246 Texas
Motor Vehicle Dept.
Grand Prairie, TX
Title #29729036354124719
JUNK TITLE/CERTIFICATE ISSUED

07/15/1999 Texas
Motor Vehicle Dept.
Grand Prairie, TX
Title #29729036354124719
JUNK TITLE/CERTIFICATE ISSUED

09/28/1999 118,618 Texas
Inspection Station
Dallas, TX
Passed emissions inspection

10/22/1999 Texas
Motor Vehicle Dept.
Plano, TX
Title #05733336445105049
SALVAGE TITLE/CERTIFICATE ISSUED
REBUILT TITLE ISSUED

11/01/2000 127,210 Texas
Inspection Station
Dallas, TX
Passed emissions inspection

01/22/2003 129,853 Texas
Inspection Station
Dallas, TX
Passed emissions inspection

duck

If it were me, I'd pass. For that kind of money here in the Metro area, you'll be able to find another Legend with similar specs, if you can wait.

BUT

If the title was rebuilt properly, it may still be a good car. I'd be curious to know what the heck happened to the car to have a junk title issued. I'd want to have the car checked out by Rosenthal or Radley Acura (should cost you <$100) and see what they think of it. And I'd be curious to know what the owner knows of it.

I know people who own cars whose titles were at one time junked--The biggest issue (assuming you can title it) is selling it later if the buyer runs a carfax.

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duck

See your other post--Any local Acura dealer will do an 80-120 point "pre-sales" inspection...Rosenthal does one for $85, I think...

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92L Coupe

that carfax report indicated fire as the reason for total loss....i dunno about you, but thats a red flag to me. I'm not wholly against buying a ride w. a salvage title, but A- the price is too high for a salvage w/ those miles and B - for that price you can find a coupe that hasnt been ummm on fire.....

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Chauffeur First

Real simple... PASS ON IT... .Don't even bother anymore with it... Look some more, you will be happy you did

Jason

misdeismo

yeah id say pass. i got a '92 ls coupe with 112,000 miles for $4450 at a dealer in NJ. If you decide to buy that car dont pay more than ~2000 tops.

Hotstartup

definately pass dude. dont waist ur money on it

Hotstartup

it sucks though that u told the guy you would buy it, and kept the car for over a month, and now ur just giving it back. i would be kinda pissed if i were him

EGlovr

thanks for all the advice guys. yeah, i would be pretty pissed if i were him too. believe me i was pissed when i saw that carfax! im gonna try to make him understand the severity of what i found, and have rosenthal check it out. if everything checks out at rosenthal, then should i take him up on his offer? i just dont want to throw away all my hard earned money on something that i cant even title. he told me that its his girls car; she just moved up here from tx. ima email him the carfax and spell out for him all that needs to take place for me to still consider buying the car.

Hotstartup

if you can get it for 2500 go for it. if not i would pass, maybe take him out to lunch or something

Chauffeur First

i wouldn't even worry bout him being mad at you, the car is crap.. its a ALERT! Severe problems (major accidents, fire, flood damage, major odometer problems or lemon history) were reported by a Department of Motor Vehicles (DMV) for this 1992 ACURA LEGEND LS (JH4KA8273NC001520). This vehicle does NOT qualify for the CARFAX Buyback Guarantee..
to me that would be all you need to tell him, he is tryin to sell you crap... Just pass and tell him that you ran a carfax on it, and that he could have told you, that is a major deal..

Jason