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Old 05-14-07, 01:37 PM   #16 (permalink)
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mrkeith - do you have aftermarket ball joints to adjust your camber?

i tried to get my car aligned, and they said that the ride hight directly effects the camber, so with where my car sits right now, i have about -2.5 degrees in the front, and -1.75 in the rear.

i HATE it b/c i am eating up tires....so i need to find a solution soon. any help would be awesosme.

if you want to take the conversation to PM thats fine, or u can just post back here.
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Old 05-17-07, 02:12 AM   #17 (permalink)
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Ohhh, you won't be able to sensibly corner-balance your car without adjustable spring rates

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The kSport coilovers are designed in such a way that the spring rate doesn't change when height adjusted, correct?
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The kSport coilovers are designed in such a way that the spring rate doesn't change when height adjusted, correct?
That's actually how it is with most coilovers. Especially the cheap ones like the sleeved Ground Control, Skunks... etc.
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That's actually how it is with most coilovers. Especially the cheap ones like the sleeved Ground Control, Skunks... etc.
Except for the JIC's for some reason. Their height adjustment compresses the spring. In looking at the Ksports, it's pretty easy to leave the spring alone - not sure why JIC engineered theirs that way.
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Except for the JIC's for some reason. Their height adjustment compresses the spring. In looking at the Ksports, it's pretty easy to leave the spring alone - not sure why JIC engineered theirs that way.
Ground Controls are not true coil-overs, and they do affect the spring pre-load as the height moves. I have not seen a shock-body adjustable Skunk either.

Most coil-overs do not adjust at the shock body; that's a relatively new design. JICs are the older style coil-overs; they've been out for years.

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Don't waste your money on the JICs unless you're just into having the stiffest riding Legend on Earth. The Ksports offer much more adjustability, the dampeners are softer, and handling doesn't seem adversely affected by either of these things. The only difference, and Brian thinks it may be tire-related, was that Brian's Ksport coupe understeers and I oversteer with JICs.

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keith you need some lighter wheels bro.
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I dunno. Ground controls, stock assemblies, Ksport... etc. They are all still "true" coilovers.

Definition of coilovers are coil springs over struts. So if you combine Skunk2 sleeves/springs with the struts, it's considered coilovers as a whole unit.
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keith you need some lighter wheels bro.
The wheels I've got now weigh 21 lbs. ea. which isn't too bad for two-piece forged 18x8"s. Or, do you mean light like 9lb. Spoon rims? I'm stuck with 17"s at the smallest because of the big brakes.
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I dunno. Ground controls, stock assemblies, Ksport... etc. They are all still "true" coilovers.

Definition of coilovers are coil springs over struts. So if you combine Skunk2 sleeves/springs with the struts, it's considered coilovers as a whole unit.
I think of the Ground Controls as sleeved springs, but I see your point too. Regardless, Skunk Coilovers = shit ;P
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The wheels I've got now weigh 21 lbs. ea. which isn't too bad for two-piece forged 18x8"s. Or, do you mean light like 9lb. Spoon rims? I'm stuck with 17"s at the smallest because of the big brakes.
if you get 9lb wheels you wont have good traction till end of 2 begining of 3rd. which kinda sounds cool, but your track time will rise a cupple milli seconds.

but good research on the suspention! :

also btw the rims Dv8 has are like 15lbs (volks) and probably 13lbs (slicks)
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if you get 9lb wheels you wont have good traction till end of 2 begining of 3rd. which kinda sounds cool, but your track time will rise a cupple milli seconds.

but good research on the suspention! :

also btw the rims Dv8 has are like 15lbs (volks) and probably 13lbs (slicks)
Dv8's rims are forged monoblocks; mine are two-piece forged. Both of our rims are Volks, but just about any monoblock is lighter than a two-piece. I bought my rims because they're the fucking tits, not because of their performance
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Dv8's rims are forged monoblocks; mine are two-piece forged. Both of our rims are Volks, but just about any monoblock is lighter than a two-piece. I bought my rims because they're the fucking tits, not because of their performance
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+1 Same here.
Bro, I'm not trying to brag, but I'm not going to lie either. Our wheels are possibly the nicest set of rims ever manufactured on Planet Earth. I don't care if they weighed 30lbs. each, I'd still rock 'em (albeit with a lighter set for track use ;P)

By the way, don't you have two spare barrels for sale? Your new signature is beautiful.
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Dv8's rims are forged monoblocks; mine are two-piece forged. Both of our rims are Volks, but just about any monoblock is lighter than a two-piece. I bought my rims because they're the fucking tits, not because of their performance
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Bro, I'm not trying to brag, but I'm not going to lie either. Our wheels are possibly the nicest set of rims ever manufactured on Planet Earth. I don't care if they weighed 30lbs. each, I'd still rock 'em (albeit with a lighter set for track use ;P)

By the way, don't you have two spare barrels?

yea a set off konigs lightweights with slicks would make a major difference on the track
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