README: Corner Balancing and Alignment - Page 2

lgnd4u2nv · 05-14-07, 01:37 PM

mrkeith - do you have aftermarket ball joints to adjust your camber?

i tried to get my car aligned, and they said that the ride hight directly effects the camber, so with where my car sits right now, i have about -2.5 degrees in the front, and -1.75 in the rear.

i HATE it b/c i am eating up tires....so i need to find a solution soon. any help would be awesosme.

if you want to take the conversation to PM thats fine, or u can just post back here.

G Rahn · 05-17-07, 02:12 AM

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Originally Posted by mrkeith

Ohhh, you won't be able to sensibly corner-balance your car without adjustable spring rates

k.

The kSport coilovers are designed in such a way that the spring rate doesn't change when height adjusted, correct?

Volk Racing · 05-17-07, 10:33 AM

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Originally Posted by U Thant

The kSport coilovers are designed in such a way that the spring rate doesn't change when height adjusted, correct?

That's actually how it is with most coilovers. Especially the cheap ones like the sleeved Ground Control, Skunks... etc.

Blackend · 05-17-07, 10:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Volk Racing

That's actually how it is with most coilovers. Especially the cheap ones like the sleeved Ground Control, Skunks... etc.

Except for the JIC's for some reason. Their height adjustment compresses the spring. In looking at the Ksports, it's pretty easy to leave the spring alone - not sure why JIC engineered theirs that way.

mrkeith · 05-17-07, 01:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Blackend

Except for the JIC's for some reason. Their height adjustment compresses the spring. In looking at the Ksports, it's pretty easy to leave the spring alone - not sure why JIC engineered theirs that way.

Ground Controls are not true coil-overs, and they do affect the spring pre-load as the height moves. I have not seen a shock-body adjustable Skunk either.

Most coil-overs do not adjust at the shock body; that's a relatively new design. JICs are the older style coil-overs; they've been out for years.

Side note:
Don't waste your money on the JICs unless you're just into having the stiffest riding Legend on Earth. The Ksports offer much more adjustability, the dampeners are softer, and handling doesn't seem adversely affected by either of these things. The only difference, and Brian thinks it may be tire-related, was that Brian's Ksport coupe understeers and I oversteer with JICs.

k.

aww-shiet · 05-17-07, 01:29 PM

keith you need some lighter wheels bro.

Volk Racing · 05-17-07, 01:33 PM

I dunno. Ground controls, stock assemblies, Ksport... etc. They are all still "true" coilovers.

Definition of coilovers are coil springs over struts. So if you combine Skunk2 sleeves/springs with the struts, it's considered coilovers as a whole unit.

mrkeith · 05-17-07, 01:35 PM

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Originally Posted by NoWuse

keith you need some lighter wheels bro.

The wheels I've got now weigh 21 lbs. ea. which isn't too bad for two-piece forged 18x8"s. Or, do you mean light like 9lb. Spoon rims?

I'm stuck with 17"s at the smallest because of the big brakes.

mrkeith · 05-17-07, 01:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Volk Racing

I dunno. Ground controls, stock assemblies, Ksport... etc. They are all still "true" coilovers.

Definition of coilovers are coil springs over struts. So if you combine Skunk2 sleeves/springs with the struts, it's considered coilovers as a whole unit.

I think of the Ground Controls as sleeved springs, but I see your point too. Regardless, Skunk Coilovers = shit ;P

aww-shiet · 05-18-07, 12:53 PM

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Originally Posted by mrkeith

The wheels I've got now weigh 21 lbs. ea. which isn't too bad for two-piece forged 18x8"s. Or, do you mean light like 9lb. Spoon rims?

I'm stuck with 17"s at the smallest because of the big brakes.

if you get 9lb wheels you wont have good traction till end of 2 begining of 3rd. which kinda sounds cool, but your track time will rise a cupple milli seconds.

but good research on the suspention! :

also btw the rims Dv8 has are like 15lbs (volks) and probably 13lbs (slicks)

mrkeith · 05-18-07, 01:02 PM

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Originally Posted by NoWuse

if you get 9lb wheels you wont have good traction till end of 2 begining of 3rd. which kinda sounds cool, but your track time will rise a cupple milli seconds.

but good research on the suspention! :

also btw the rims Dv8 has are like 15lbs (volks) and probably 13lbs (slicks)

Dv8's rims are forged monoblocks; mine are two-piece forged. Both of our rims are Volks, but just about any monoblock is lighter than a two-piece. I bought my rims because they're the fucking tits, not because of their performance

Volk Racing · 05-18-07, 01:03 PM

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Originally Posted by mrkeith

Dv8's rims are forged monoblocks; mine are two-piece forged. Both of our rims are Volks, but just about any monoblock is lighter than a two-piece. I bought my rims because they're the fucking tits, not because of their performance

+1 Same here.

mrkeith · 05-18-07, 01:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Volk Racing

+1 Same here.

Bro, I'm not trying to brag, but I'm not going to lie either. Our wheels are possibly the nicest set of rims ever manufactured on Planet Earth. I don't care if they weighed 30lbs. each, I'd still rock 'em (albeit with a lighter set for track use ;P)

By the way, don't you have two spare barrels for sale? Your new signature is beautiful.

aww-shiet · 05-18-07, 01:08 PM

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Originally Posted by mrkeith

Dv8's rims are forged monoblocks; mine are two-piece forged. Both of our rims are Volks, but just about any monoblock is lighter than a two-piece. I bought my rims because they're the fucking tits, not because of their performance

aww-shiet · 05-18-07, 01:09 PM

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Originally Posted by mrkeith

Bro, I'm not trying to brag, but I'm not going to lie either. Our wheels are possibly the nicest set of rims ever manufactured on Planet Earth. I don't care if they weighed 30lbs. each, I'd still rock 'em (albeit with a lighter set for track use ;P)

By the way, don't you have two spare barrels?

yea a set off konigs lightweights with slicks would make a major difference on the track

05-14-07, 01:37 PM	#16 (permalink)
lgnd4u2nv Registered User Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Charlotte, NC Posts: 1,008 Car 1: 1991 Acura Legend iTrader: (2)	mrkeith - do you have aftermarket ball joints to adjust your camber? i tried to get my car aligned, and they said that the ride hight directly effects the camber, so with where my car sits right now, i have about -2.5 degrees in the front, and -1.75 in the rear. i HATE it b/c i am eating up tires....so i need to find a solution soon. any help would be awesosme. if you want to take the conversation to PM thats fine, or u can just post back here. __________________ The Performance Handling Sedan Ksport Coilovers, MLS strut bar, Fut's rear tie bars, ADDCO rear sway bar MAY 10TH CHARLOTTE NC LEGEND MEET! CLICK HERE Winter NC meet picture and discussion thread!

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aww-shiet Tristate Committee Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Northeastern PA Posts: 2,250 Car 1: 94 Acura Legend L Sedan Car 2: 93 CB7 Turbo Car 3: 1988 Acura Legend L iTrader: (1)	keith you need some lighter wheels bro. __________________

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Volk Racing Moderator Join Date: May 2003 Location: here Posts: 2,855 Car 1: Legend GS Car 2: Yamaha YZF iTrader: (2)	I dunno. Ground controls, stock assemblies, Ksport... etc. They are all still "true" coilovers. Definition of coilovers are coil springs over struts. So if you combine Skunk2 sleeves/springs with the struts, it's considered coilovers as a whole unit. __________________ 1994 GS (18 X 8.0, 18 X 9.0) B===D~(\|)

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