Volk Racing

Yea, I got two barrels for sale. If you were to put your rim spokes on them, they would be +40mm offset. It looks as if your coupe has even flushness with the front and rears, so I'm not sure if you would like to have the rears out more.

For some reason, the sedans seems to have the fronts stick out more than the rear, so I had to make the rears poke more, and it still seems the front poke more than the rear. Hmm..

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mrkeith

My front sit slightly more flush than the rear too, even thought they've got more negative camber than the rear. My rear has toe-in, though. I used to think that was why?

What are you asking for the barrels? Any curb rash, dings, or bends?

k.

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Volk Racing

No curb rashes, and they are straight. There are tiny ... dinks? I think from some small rocks. I'll try to take some super close up shots of all the imperfections I can find. I haven't figured a price yet..

I still have to get the tires removed, so I'll have to install the brand new higher disk spokes to have the shop remove the old tires.

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kotetu

Tire pressure differences front to rear as little as 1 psi can change the handling characteristics substantially. Brian also does not have the front sway, so there must have been a pretty big difference. What are the JIC spring rates?

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mrkeith

The JIC spring rates are 14/8, and the dampeners are much stiffer than the Ksports, even compared to the Ksports dialed all the way to stiff. Do the Ksports have a progressive-rate spring?

My car definitely oversteers and Brian's understeers like a typical Legend. Since our tires aren't staggered, the difference should be suspension-related.

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Blackend

I think my tires are the major reason for my understeer, even though I do oversteer quite a bit, the first reaction of my car is to push through the turn like a semi on ice at full lock.

Keith was running BFG's against my Kuhmo's and I'd warrant a bet that had we switched rims/tires we'd have switched handling characteristics as well.

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I drove my car on the factory 16s and it still oversteers.

k.

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misdeismo

Having adjustment of ride height separate from the spring pre-load adjustment is really a value added design consideration, and as such is is a marketable feature and thus generally increases the price of the coilovers.

The fact that cheaper coilovers systems have one or all the features of a higher end system usually means there are compromises made somewhere to achieve the price target, I would think this would reflect in certain R&D and construction elements.

I hear a lot of complaints about the JICs from other car owners about reliability and price/value considerations but many of these people don't understand that coilovers, like brake pads, is an example where performance targets can render a product completely or ill suited to daily driving. Just like you can't use race pads on the street because they won't perform in their optimal range, with coilovers, specifically the JIC's their performance target is highly track biased which means perceived compromises in reliability and comfort.

I would agree with Keith in his statement that the JICs are probably more stiff than the Ksports at their highest setting because the JICs were tuned specifically for track use. I would also conclude that this particular notion should make the Ksports more reliable for street use all things being equal.

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mrkeith

Well written, misdeismo The JICs are _not_ reliable, especially being driven over public roads; they're designed to be used on the track, and have wicked high compression dampeners that are known to start leaking through the seals. I've got ~2 years on mine and don't expect them to last another two. Road turbulence and potholes murder the JICs.

Look at these:
http://www.evasivemotorsports.com/me...de=KA7FLTA2VIP
The more comfortable JICs... (comfortable is relative) I might look into those once I bust the dampeners on mine, but will most likely just get the Ksports.

k.

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DSL

just contacted Darren at this alignment place. There is a 1-2 week wait time to make an appt. WOW. anyways, i think im going soon. right after i change my rear shocks

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Artillery129

get a center mounted engine for neutral steering!! maybe thats a bit too extreme, but it would be much better for your handling.

FF Drifter

The engine is already pretty centrally mounted for a FWD...?

So Aaron, any other track experiences you'll be looking for soon? =)

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DSL

just came back from west end alignment.

This guy is good. if youre in the area and need to get an alignment/cornerbalance. check him out...

dont be surprised if he doesnt use those computerized alignment machines.. all manual( if you know what you are doing.. its just as good or better.)

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ground control, koni, addco-front & rear, mls copy, 18" volk III
rm racing intake, gasket match ported exhaust manifold, light weight pulleys, telion chip, tranny cooler

and a bunch of door dings ~from haters

drewLegend

Glad to see some other Legend owners getting their cars corner-balanced. When I had my Legend with Ksports, I too got it corner-balanced. Really felt even better afterwards.

If anyone in the Atlanta area is looking for a place to get their cars aligned/cornerbalanced by people who actually care and know what they're doing, go to Gran Turismo East or an independent german/euro repair shop called RWL. I'm friends with one of the guys over at RWL and he cornerbalanced my old Legend. And GTE is top notch, we take all our cars from work there to get aligned.