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Old 11-06-08, 06:45 PM   #16 (permalink)
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Hey man, do your caliper pistons have slots (grooves) in them? If they do, then your supposed to put somehting in there and turn them in instead of pressing them in.
Nope, they aren't the screw type. Something is frozen, just don't know if it is a caliper or a line. I've done calipers before, but never replaced a line before. I thought they were all clamped in place at the factory....
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Use the hydraulic pressure to force the piston out. If it was openen, bleed it first. Then push the brake pedal with full force until the piston gets out. Polish it and check for scratches. Remove the sealing rings from the brake cylinder and clean them. Use a Dremel to clean the brake caliper. Replace parts which are damaged.

Special brake grease (DOT4 compatible!) makes the assemblage much easier. It helps to prevent water from coming in, too.

A cheap, safe and effective caliper tool is a heavy-duty bar clamp. It applied pressure centrical so that the brake piston doesn´t jam.
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Old 11-06-08, 07:20 PM   #18 (permalink)
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Sounds like a simple stuck caliper to me. If you really want to know, take the line loose from the caliper (or just open the bleeder), then try and push the piston back. If it's still stuck, you can assume it's the caliper and not the line.
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Old 11-06-08, 08:22 PM   #19 (permalink)
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Hmmmmmm, I dunno, man. I've never had an issue using that, and it has always been all the force I need. I wasn't suggesting it as a method to solve *his* particular problem, more like an addendum to Blackend's post about making sure that the piston is put back into place while exerting equal amounts of pressure across the piston.
Sorry- I was not trying to sound like a wise-a$$. Actually, the piston should go back in easily if not frozen, etc so that tool should be more than adequate
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Sounds like a simple stuck caliper to me. If you really want to know, take the line loose from the caliper (or just open the bleeder), then try and push the piston back. If it's still stuck, you can assume it's the caliper and not the line.
This would be a simple enough way to tell what the issue is
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Sounds like a simple stuck caliper to me. If you really want to know, take the line loose from the caliper (or just open the bleeder), then try and push the piston back. If it's still stuck, you can assume it's the caliper and not the line.


yea, thats a good idea.
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Loosen the bleeder screw to the brake caliper? You mean so that air wil get in the system and then you will have to bleed the system afterwords?

Sounds like a bunch of bullshit. Ive dont lots of brake jobs on abs cars to never have anything go wrong with them and i just took off the master cylinder cap so the fluid wouldnt spill out.

I would like an explanation for your logic on this.
Its the way any shop would do it. Yes you have to bleed the brakes afterwards. That takes all of 45 seconds to do.

Have you ever taken apart an ABS unit? Have you seen how many different valves there are? Forcing that much pressure back on those valves risks destroying them. You don't have to believe me, and the legends ABS might survive just pushing the piston back in, but its not acceptable practice by ASE or any factory standards.
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Nope, they aren't the screw type. Something is frozen, just don't know if it is a caliper or a line. I've done calipers before, but never replaced a line before. I thought they were all clamped in place at the factory....
Again, loosen the caliper bleeder. If you have a collapsed line then opening the bleeder will allow the piston to retract and confirm you have a kinked or clogged line. If the piston still wont retract with the bleeder open, then its siezed.

edit: see Kenso already covered this my bad.
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Its the way any shop would do it. Yes you have to bleed the brakes afterwards. That takes all of 45 seconds to do.

Have you ever taken apart an ABS unit? Have you seen how many different valves there are? Forcing that much pressure back on those valves risks destroying them. You don't have to believe me, and the legends ABS might survive just pushing the piston back in, but its not acceptable practice by ASE or any factory standards.

wow, it sounds like overkill to me especially since ive never damaged a abs unit doing it the way i do it, but i cant argue if thats the "correct" way to do it. No i havent every taken an abs unit apart, ive never had a need to.
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wow, it sounds like overkill to me especially since ive never damaged a abs unit doing it the way i do it, but i cant argue if thats the "correct" way to do it. No i havent every taken an abs unit apart, ive never had a need to.
well it doesnt seem like acks have problems with it really but newer GMS and Fords can be destroyed by it, i just do it on all ABS cars to be safe. It really only takes a few seconds if you used linesman pliers on the line.. You don't really push any air into the system you just push fluid out. Anyway ive seen it destroy $1200 ford abs units, but those are fords and they are junk.
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Leave it to the Acura tech (Kenso) to lay down the wisdom!!!

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newer GMS and Fords can be destroyed by it, fords are junk.

Your right, Gm's and Fords are junk.
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Sorry- I was not trying to sound like a wise-a$$. Actually, the piston should go back in easily if not frozen, etc so that tool should be more than adequate
This would be a simple enough way to tell what the issue is
Don't sweat it, I didn't take it that way *lol* It's all good in the hood
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