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Old 10-06-03, 11:54 AM   #1 (permalink)
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What's the best Head Gasket?

And why?
I'm finally getting around to replacing the head gaskets and am wondering if there is a gasket that is clearly the best. But if you think one is the best, tell me why also.
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u could try copper. but i hear peeps like dv8 have had problems with that. use the search on the top and bottem of ur screen
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Thanks. I did do a search, and while there was a lot of talk about head gaskets, I didn't find the answer to my question above.
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Most people use OEM. There were some who tried copper head gaskets, but I don't believe that worked out too well.
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Okay, but that gets to the root of my question. Why? There are other aftermarket gaskets out there. Felpro makes them and Ive also seen Beck-Arnley. What makes the OEM so good that they are worth all the money.
The only reason I'm asking this is because Honda historically has had problems with head gaskets (I've owned and worked on many. There have been recalls over head gaskets). So why would the OEM gaskets be better than those from a manufacturer like Felpro?
I'm just asking because I need to buy them and want to make sure that I get the best ones. But I don't universally accept the "OEM is always better" line. Why is it better?
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Okay, but that gets to the root of my question. Why? There are other aftermarket gaskets out there. Felpro makes them and Ive also seen Beck-Arnley. What makes the OEM so good that they are worth all the money.
The only reason I'm asking this is because Honda historically has had problems with head gaskets (I've owned and worked on many. There have been recalls over head gaskets). So why would the OEM gaskets be better than those from a manufacturer like Felpro?
I'm just asking because I need to buy them and want to make sure that I get the best ones. But I don't universally accept the "OEM is always better" line. Why is it better?
I never said that they were better. I said most people use them. I personally did not know that multiple companies made them for the Legend. Do you have any links to websites with information on these other headgaskets because I'm sure other people would like to know.
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That's right, you didn't say they were better. I guess I just assumed if that was what most people buy, then they must think they are better, because they cost more.

I don't have a website, but if you go to Advance Auto Part's website, you can look it up for yourself.

Here's what I found:

Fel Pro - left side p/n 9031PT $59.99
Right side 9032PT $59.99

Beck-Arnley - LT 0351902 $29
RT 0351890 $38

I can tell you that I bought both brands and they looked exactly alike. The BA was in a complete gasket set that I bought on Ebay. The head gaskets were damaged when I received the kit, so I ordered the Fel Pro's from Advance and from what I could tell they were the same gasket, probably made by FelPro and sold to BA.
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That's right, you didn't say they were better. I guess I just assumed if that was what most people buy, then they must think they are better, because they cost more.

I don't have a website, but if you go to Advance Auto Part's website, you can look it up for yourself.

Here's what I found:

Fel Pro - left side p/n 9031PT $59.99
Right side 9032PT $59.99

Beck-Arnley - LT 0351902 $29
RT 0351890 $38

I can tell you that I bought both brands and they looked exactly alike. The BA was in a complete gasket set that I bought on Ebay. The head gaskets were damaged when I received the kit, so I ordered the Fel Pro's from Advance and from what I could tell they were the same gasket, probably made by FelPro and sold to BA.
Well, I just went to their website and found them. I wonder if anybody on this forum has any experience with them. It just seems like when someone has a headgasket problem and someone asks about the process, people always say that they went with OEM.

Anybody else have any insight?
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how much does the stock set cost?
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I think at AOA, its like 400 bucks but you can call them and confirm it.

I recently bought a HG set from www.carmadillo.com for $225.
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Why would anyone get an OEM headgasket set that is known to fail. I can understand we are forced to get weak OEM rear tranny mounts because no one makes a heavy duty aftermarket one. It doesn't make sense go with the Fel-Pro or Beck/Arnley.
Although it's good to be able to predict when the next HG leak will be around on the odometer.
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Sorry (got a nice buzz going), I meant you better off with an aftermarket headgaskets.
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It is not the material of the headgasket that is at fault for failure. It is the design of the engine. The OEM, Fel-Pro, BA and others are likely the same quality. I would say choose 2nd source, but not because OEM is faulty, but because 2nd source is probably nearly as good and much cheaper.

The copper route is not good for our cars because it is not a properly developed product. I think the one that is available is just machined out of copper stock. Thats the way it appeared to me, at least. The copper must actually be a good alloy, not just any material will do.
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If the gaskets are only $60-that could save tons of cash.


I had a corsica and when the gasket went on that they took the engine apart, and had the heads refinished at a machine shop, then reassembled the engine with the new fixed heads. cost me $1200...

I'm assuming if you can buy the head gasket set yourself and get the heads machined only if needed you could save money. Is this a correct assumption to make??
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