I am not a MASTER MECHANIC but a pretty good one for hobby sakes I used to work for acura in Connecticut..
ANyways I just bought a 1994 Legend and I am having problems with the over heating, example: I changed the coolant today,went all around looking for the sensor that is plugged in the bottom of the radiator because I belived it to be faulty due to both fans ALWAYS COME ON wheater the A/C is on or not,when there should at times be one fan to do a certain cool and both fans for a certain cool but all the time when the engine needs to be cooled it always turn both fans on,I have NEVER seen 1 fan cut on alone since I have had the car "1 month" ok being a saturday and the sensor needed to be ordered I just changed the fluid. After doing that I took the car up and down the road it was perfect,but me and my fiance went to see a 2hour movie "fantastic 4" and got in my car didn't even drive a quater of a mile and the tac ran alll the way to Hot......Got home and bleed the air out,for some other strange reason it always spits the coolant out of the radiator in to the resevior and sometimes never sucks it back into the radiator and some how air gets back into the system.
My father is an Engineer but he has a Diesel Mechanic background and was figuring it could be the thermostat sticking or something,I am completley lost I don't even feel safe driving the car because the gage goes up and down up and down,when I drive the gage will go to hot and when I sit it will stay hot and sometimes when I drive it will creep back down to lets say half way and merge right back up to hot..
Can one of you Acura Legend Experts help me out with this problem I know it was alot to read but I need your help BADLY...
No!!!!!!!!! Deth do you really think so man,jeez i really hope not I think I should go get it checked out because the used car dealership i got it from I belive they know whats wrong but they keep sayin,it didn't over heat since the 3 days we kept it,bull man.....I might get another shop to look at it and bring them the paper and have them fix it from where I bought it from because I have a feeling there trying to hold me off until the warranty runs out.
No!!!!!!!!! Deth do you really think so man,jeez i really hope not I think I should go get it checked out because the used car dealership i got it from I belive they know whats wrong but they keep sayin,it didn't over heat since the 3 days we kept it,bull man.....I might get another shop to look at it and bring them the paper and have them fix it from where I bought it from because I have a feeling there trying to hold me off until the warranty runs out.
If you have a warranty from a local car sale location you immediately need to go and get a leak down and/or hydrocarbon test. If either of those show up positive you might be a luck SOB if they'll cover it under warranty!
Now that I'm just about ready to "turn the key", let me ask you what is your theory as to why the Legend is having this problem. I've tried to figure it out every way imagineable, my theory is that for whatever reason, almost every car will overheat at some point in time. Busted waterhoses, radiator leaks, heater core leaks, sticking thermostat and etc., I think once the legend gets hit with one of these situations, it goes straight at he hg. The answer may be that Acura does not use a higher torque spec on the heads in the first place. 56 lbs does not seem to be enough torque imo , especially for a 24 valve engine. The heads are aluminum like 99% of todays cars, so it can't be the metal. I'm willing to bet it's all in the torque, and/or the stretch bolts. This car have a very low tolerance for heat. There is one flaw that I've noticed however, and that is the metal bracket that holds the two accelerator cables that is STUPIDLY bolted to the PLASTIC radiator top tank, I mean how utterly ridiculous is that? It doesn't take much for a crack to develop in the radiator due to the weight of this thing. This could be the achilles heel that starts the car on the road to the BHG. What's your take. TIA.
Now that I'm just about ready to "turn the key", let me ask you what is your theory as to why the Legend is having this problem. I've tried to figure it out every way imagineable, my theory is that for whatever reason, almost every car will overheat at some point in time. Busted waterhoses, radiator leaks, heater core leaks, sticking thermostat and etc., I think once the legend gets hit with one of these situations, it goes straight at he hg. The answer may be that Acura does not use a higher torque spec on the heads in the first place. 56 lbs does not seem to be enough torque imo , especially for a 24 valve engine. The heads are aluminum like 99% of todays cars, so it can't be the metal. I'm willing to bet it's all in the torque, and/or the stretch bolts. This car have a very low tolerance for heat. What's your take. TIA.
BHGGUY
From what I can tell most of them fail between the firing ring and the coolant channel on the rear right cylinder. It might be a technical flaw coupled with the fact that when the metals heat they slightly expand and contract. Over time the gasket could become weak in that area and begin to crack. I haven't heard of many gasket failures after the original fix (except those with the copper gaskets that bombed and those that had bigger problems).
There is one flaw that I've noticed however, and that is the metal bracket that holds the two accelerator cables that is STUPIDLY bolted to the PLASTIC radiator top tank, I mean how utterly ridiculous is that? It doesn't take much for a crack to develop in the radiator due to the weight of this thing. This could be the achilles heel that starts the car on the road to the BHG. What's your take. TIA.
BHGGUY
Its possible, but in several cars I have noticed much worse items bolted to the radiator. Our radiators seem to last longer than most of the cars I have heard about.
Car 1: 1991 Legend LS coupe
Car 2: 1997 Acura TL
Car 3: S13 240sx coupe
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My legend blew a haed gasket this weekend and smoking threw the exhaust badly. Is this common among the legends? Because im getting a new legend today and i dont want to have to deal with the same problems. I've only had my legend for about 2 months then problems. Hopefully this doesnt happen again to my new one.
-Dennis
My legend blew a haed gasket this weekend and smoking threw the exhaust badly. Is this common among the legends? Because im getting a new legend today and i dont want to have to deal with the same problems. I've only had my legend for about 2 months then problems. Hopefully this doesnt happen again to my new one.
-Dennis
"Think before you ink."
Stop being the jackass of this forum.
Of late, all of your comments are negative,
insulting forum members, their cars, and Legends in general.
Why don't you pack your bags and move off this forum?
No one but yourself wants to read the negativity.
Get out of here.
My legend blew a haed gasket this weekend and smoking threw the exhaust badly. Is this common among the legends? Because im getting a new legend today and i dont want to have to deal with the same problems. I've only had my legend for about 2 months then problems. Hopefully this doesnt happen again to my new one.
-Dennis
All these are methods you can use to test for a bad headgasket:
have the stealership conduct a drip test for you, check the exhaust for white smoke, inspect the coolant for oil deposits, check for a low coolant level, etc.
Most of your questions can be answered within this thread,
as many forum members have experienced a bad head gasket.
Many people believe the Legend's head gasket is a product of poor engineering, but I beg to differ.
I owned a properly maintained Legend with 250,000+ miles on the original motor and transmission.
Currently, I have near 140,000 on the Legend in my signature--no problems.
Many Legends on this forum are NOT properly maintained:
radiators aren't replaced when they should be, coolant is not flushed, etc.
Be sure to take care of your Legend, and it should last.
"Think before you ink."
Stop being the jackass of this forum.
Of late, all of your comments are negative,
insulting forum members, their cars, and Legends in general.
Why don't you pack your bags and move off this forum?
No one but yourself wants to read the negativity.
Get out of here.
k.h.
Oh I get it jackass, you follow me around and give me negativity from my logical advice that you find offensive since it doesn't praise the legend. Please kill yourself. I beg you. The guy bought a legend for 2 months, and is planning on selling it. He wants to know if that would be smart to buy another or if there would be a risk of getting the same problem. If he's worried about that then he needs to buy a different car all together. So STFU you moronic piece of pig crap.
My legend blew a haed gasket this weekend and smoking threw the exhaust badly. Is this common among the legends? Because im getting a new legend today and i dont want to have to deal with the same problems. I've only had my legend for about 2 months then problems. Hopefully this doesnt happen again to my new one.
-Dennis
To further reiterate my point about just moving on. There is no tell tale way to avoid or prevent the gasket failure. If you read through all 44 pages of this thread you'll read about tons of people saying the same thing as the jackass above, about maintaining their cooling system 100%. Sometimes its just pure bad luck if you get one, others its from neglect. Before my gasket failure my engine heat never went above about 1/2 heat because my dad and I always watched it knowing the legend's tendency to overheat with age. It has nothing to do with using Honda brand coolant, or making sure you do everything 100%, as PSA (previously an Acura Shop Foreman and Master Mechanic) said, it just happens to the motors and usually in the same place. When the main topic on the forum is overheating and BHG there is definitely a flaw with the motor. You can look at any other car forum with cars primarily 150k+ miles in age and none, that I know of, will have hundreds upon hundreds of members with the same overheating problem.
If you seriously don't want to run into this problem again the only reasonable and logical thing to say is to avoid the Acura Legend, unless you get one with <90,000 miles.
"Think before you ink."
Stop being the jackass of this forum.
Of late, all of your comments are negative,
insulting forum members, their cars, and Legends in general.
Why don't you pack your bags and move off this forum?
No one but yourself wants to read the negativity.
Get out of here.
k.h.
I totally disagree with you, you obviously have not thoroughly read Deth's posts have you. He's made a tremendous contribution to this board, we come here to learn about other's experiences with the Legend. I appreciate any ideas or knowledge that people are willing to take the time to share. Your comment about Deth was very much misinformed and misplaced.
I've just "turned the key" on my "NEW" '93 Legend and she's purring like a kitten after nearly 2 months of doing battle in the trenches, I was determined to see this thing thru. You two guys have helped me tremendously, thanks again.
Car 1: 1991 Legend LS coupe
Car 2: 1997 Acura TL
Car 3: S13 240sx coupe
iTrader Score: 0 reviews
Sorry for causing this big argument. I am a newbie and was curious thats all.Anyways the legend i bought today is a 91 ls coupe and the previous owner treated this car like a baby. I have records for every service done to the car since new and it has about 120k miles on it. Runs beautifully. BUT i made sure to buy extended warranty just in case of cooling issues later on
Thank you all,
-Dennis
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