Telion VS SR5guy VS Stock ECU

bboarder711 · 03-13-08, 11:35 PM

As some may know I have been trading ECUs for the past 6 months and trying everything.

First I bought the Telion type 1 chip. I received another ECU ready to install. I imeediatly installed it and went for a drive. Power was everywhere. Later on I began to notice some strange events. I was filling up more and I stalled 3 times at start up... Telion has agree to send out an updated chip for further testing.

Next I swapped my Stock ECU back in for some control testing... everything went back to normal.

Recently i purchased an SR5guy Stage 3 chip. again imeadiatly installed it and went for a test drive. it was a bit rainy so I was hesitant to put it to the floor. The basis behind the SR5guy chip is orginal software from Dinan then Bayou and finally modified from SR5guy. The Stage 3 requires an intake and exhust. I was worried that this chip would again cause problems with things so i left it in for my trip to south carolina and back (1300 miles) if it can with stand this its good. Success Many got txts and ims tonight about it....

Engine MODS:
-Injen SHORT ram intake
-Remus legend specific CAT back
-NGK platnum plugs
-Mobil 1 synthetic
-Custom www.legendtunner.com Grounding kit
-I also have Type 1 and a electronically controlled 4 speed auto that was the only option for the SE

How they stack up.

Gas Millage: (mind you i have a Type 1 AUTO)
city, Highway, combined (spirited driving)
Stock - 20 23 21
Telion - 17 19 18
SR5guy- 21 26 23
Proof of 26mpg

yup thats 260 miles on a haft a tank. Filling up soon after was 264 miles at 10.11 gallons

Butt Dyno:

Stock....... you have your own test results for this....

Telion - Allot of power coming from the engine. First pedal to the floor left a bit of rubber on the road. The delay from the short ram was eliminated however I feel as if some was taken from the mid and high range.

SR5guy - The power seems to be a bit more refined then the telion chip. whether its less or just more evenly placed across the band. However if you want to be put back in your seat it will deffinatly do this. Also if you like the sound of your engine you will enjoy this.

Dyno tests:

Will be done in a few weeks from now so just hang tight

Final verdict: (subject to change with dyno results)

Stock... isn't if obvious it should be replaced...

Telion... testing of the upgrade will prove its not so rich but powerful.

SR5guy... Economy with some attitude

STAY TUNED!

93LegendSedan · 03-13-08, 11:39 PM

Umm, no Bayou inclusion?

That is the chip I run and the only chip I will run until I see reason to do otherwise. Made by a proven company in Dinan, it seems still the best option to me.

I am not putting down Matt or Telion, just stating my preference.

*Dv8* · 03-14-08, 12:26 AM

I wonder what would happen if they combined forces for the greater good..?

~Dv8

Telion · 03-14-08, 12:42 AM

I would be down but I think SR5guy would object.

Forevralegend · 03-14-08, 03:32 AM

sweet finally a telion vs sr5guy dyno battle haha make sure you do it on a dynojet dyno and print legible graphs with air fuel ratio included. Im excited to see the results! As far as the regular bayou chip goes.. all they did was add a little timing if i remember correctly so just because your chip says "bayou" on it doesn't necessarily mean its better then the other chips.

Telion · 03-14-08, 03:50 AM

Give me till Saturday evening as some refinements will be taking place at that time.

93LegendSedan · 03-14-08, 03:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Forevralegend

sweet finally a telion vs sr5guy dyno battle haha make sure you do it on a dynojet dyno and print legible graphs with air fuel ratio included. Im excited to see the results! As far as the regular bayou chip goes.. all they did was add a little timing if i remember correctly so just because your chip says "bayou" on it doesn't necessarily mean its better then the other chips.

I'm just saying.

When I first joined that was the only chip, and the one to get. I still see no reason to doubt it as THE chip out there.

Telion · 03-14-08, 03:55 AM

I have it and the spoon and I don't run either

but we all have our preferences

93LegendSedan · 03-14-08, 04:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Telion

I have it and the spoon and I don't run either

but we all have our preferences

Well with my upcoming project I might not have use for the Bayou chip being that its for the Type I and not meant to be used with FI I don't think.

So you may be recieving a PM from me in the near future with inquries.

bboarder711 · 03-14-08, 09:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 93LegendSedan

Umm, no Bayou inclusion?

That is the chip I run and the only chip I will run until I see reason to do otherwise. Made by a proven company in Dinan, it seems still the best option to me.

I am not putting down Matt or Telion, just stating my preference.

Im not sure if you read but Matts chip is based off the Dinan / Bayou chip....

Quote:

Originally Posted by Forevralegend

sweet finally a telion vs sr5guy dyno battle haha make sure you do it on a dynojet dyno and print legible graphs with air fuel ratio included. Im excited to see the results! As far as the regular bayou chip goes.. all they did was add a little timing if i remember correctly so just because your chip says "bayou" on it doesn't necessarily mean its better then the other chips.

I will be taking plenty of pictures of the graphs and they will all be posted

CEN2MENTAL95 · 03-14-08, 09:40 AM

do we have links for this SR5guy chip? looking at $4.00+/gallon I need all the fuel savings I can get

divinchi · 03-14-08, 10:09 AM

This is very interesting and I strongly believe that competition is a very powerful thing and it makes the businessmen of these chips step up their game. However, it depends on preference and experience, I love puma and you may like Nike, it depends on what we like our cars to feel like… I am all up for trying SR’s Chip, however, I am having a wonderful experience with T’s chip and that is something that I have expressed to him….

Yes, Gas mileage is an important issue especially with the increase in price, no doubt about it, which I am sure that is something that T will work on, however, you would have to feel what his chip does for the car in order to make your own decision.

I have PM’s SR to see if I am able to purchase a chipped ECU from him to also be able to do a comparison. No matter what, T’s chip is 100 times better then stock, something for which I will bet on….

Again, this is a very interesting thread and would love to know and feel the comparison myself….

bboarder711 · 03-14-08, 11:23 AM

More numbers are on their way

Edify · 03-14-08, 12:19 PM

Step it up Matt!!!! I'm loving your chip. I know you've been through a lot of junk the past year(s). If I do any more mods I'll be looking you up for the stage3.

Nice to know I'm getting better mpg. Unfortunately, I've gone from doing mostly highway to now mostly city. Your results look spot on for what I was getting with the stock chip.

-Ed

Billyjack187 · 03-15-08, 10:58 PM

Someone do a type deuce review! Im still about a month out on getting all my parts together to drive my project Ac! Heh "preferences" is that what gay guys say? LMAO!!! Sorry I has to say something!!!

03-13-08, 11:39 PM	#2 (permalink)
93LegendSedan Thunderstruck Join Date: May 2005 Location: Over the Hills and Far Away Posts: 6,328 Car 1: 1993 SlutRideMobile iTrader: (18)	Umm, no Bayou inclusion? That is the chip I run and the only chip I will run until I see reason to do otherwise. Made by a proven company in Dinan, it seems still the best option to me. I am not putting down Matt or Telion, just stating my preference. __________________

03-14-08, 12:26 AM	#3 (permalink)
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03-14-08, 12:42 AM	#4 (permalink)
Telion Of the Telion Chip Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Hopefully In your ECU ;) Posts: 3,431 Car 1: White 91 KA8 5spd W/3.5, TII Cams & Manifold Car 2: White 91 KA8 JDM TII iTrader: (32)	I would be down but I think SR5guy would object. __________________ \/Provider of The Telion Chip click here\/ http://telionsite.com or search Telion Chip 3.5, TII cams,pnp mani & springs,Telion Chip,HID's,H&R's/Koni's,Addco Sway bars,TII calipers,RH C2's,R.J. shifter,DV8 EGR plate,CAI,OBX headers,2.5" exhaust,hi-flow cat,K2 muffler,Stage III clutch,S&D rotors, KVR pads, blackend damper, a CF hood, AFC NEO, 3.5 Aluminum pulley, & Web cams.

03-14-08, 03:32 AM	#5 (permalink)
Forevralegend Registered User Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Sacramento Posts: 988 Car 1: 94 Legend gs type II iTrader: (11)	sweet finally a telion vs sr5guy dyno battle haha make sure you do it on a dynojet dyno and print legible graphs with air fuel ratio included. Im excited to see the results! As far as the regular bayou chip goes.. all they did was add a little timing if i remember correctly so just because your chip says "bayou" on it doesn't necessarily mean its better then the other chips. __________________ mods- 2.5" mandrel exhaust, deleted cat, cold air intake, web cam regrinds, comp cam valve springs, port & polish heads and manifold, tb bypass, egr block, five speed clutch/flywheel, 80a polyurethane mounts all around, type 1 pulley, headers,re-fabed y-pipe, SR5guy Custom Chip, 6speed swap, Apexi safc II, strut bar, F/R sway bars, FL tie bars, tune 243.3 hp 197.7 ftlb N/A dynapack before manual swap 232.8 hp 204.0 ftlb N/A dynojet 10/19/07 13.737 1/4 mile @ 100.207 mph & 2.012 60' NA

03-14-08, 03:50 AM	#6 (permalink)
Telion Of the Telion Chip Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Hopefully In your ECU ;) Posts: 3,431 Car 1: White 91 KA8 5spd W/3.5, TII Cams & Manifold Car 2: White 91 KA8 JDM TII iTrader: (32)	Give me till Saturday evening as some refinements will be taking place at that time. __________________ \/Provider of The Telion Chip click here\/ http://telionsite.com or search Telion Chip 3.5, TII cams,pnp mani & springs,Telion Chip,HID's,H&R's/Koni's,Addco Sway bars,TII calipers,RH C2's,R.J. shifter,DV8 EGR plate,CAI,OBX headers,2.5" exhaust,hi-flow cat,K2 muffler,Stage III clutch,S&D rotors, KVR pads, blackend damper, a CF hood, AFC NEO, 3.5 Aluminum pulley, & Web cams.

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03-14-08, 03:55 AM	#8 (permalink)
Telion Of the Telion Chip Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Hopefully In your ECU ;) Posts: 3,431 Car 1: White 91 KA8 5spd W/3.5, TII Cams & Manifold Car 2: White 91 KA8 JDM TII iTrader: (32)	I have it and the spoon and I don't run either but we all have our preferences __________________ \/Provider of The Telion Chip click here\/ http://telionsite.com or search Telion Chip 3.5, TII cams,pnp mani & springs,Telion Chip,HID's,H&R's/Koni's,Addco Sway bars,TII calipers,RH C2's,R.J. shifter,DV8 EGR plate,CAI,OBX headers,2.5" exhaust,hi-flow cat,K2 muffler,Stage III clutch,S&D rotors, KVR pads, blackend damper, a CF hood, AFC NEO, 3.5 Aluminum pulley, & Web cams.

03-14-08, 09:40 AM	#11 (permalink)
CEN2MENTAL95 OH HAI Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: where Legends are a plenty Posts: 488 Car 1: 95 Acura Legend L Sedan Car 2: 07 Subaru Legacy LTD Car 3: 01 Infiniti QX4 iTrader: (2)	do we have links for this SR5guy chip? looking at $4.00+/gallon I need all the fuel savings I can get __________________ 95 Taffeta White Acura Legend L Sedan Takin it back to the old skool cuz I'm an old fool who's so cool "This ain't negotiation time. This is Scarface, final scene, fuckin' bazookas under each arm." -Christopher Moltisanti

03-14-08, 10:09 AM	#12 (permalink)
divinchi 93 Legend LS 2.0 Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Bronx, NYC Posts: 402 Car 1: 93' Champagne Gold LS Sedan Car 2: 2000 BMW X5 4.4i iTrader: (3)	This is very interesting and I strongly believe that competition is a very powerful thing and it makes the businessmen of these chips step up their game. However, it depends on preference and experience, I love puma and you may like Nike, it depends on what we like our cars to feel like… I am all up for trying SR’s Chip, however, I am having a wonderful experience with T’s chip and that is something that I have expressed to him…. Yes, Gas mileage is an important issue especially with the increase in price, no doubt about it, which I am sure that is something that T will work on, however, you would have to feel what his chip does for the car in order to make your own decision. I have PM’s SR to see if I am able to purchase a chipped ECU from him to also be able to do a comparison. No matter what, T’s chip is 100 times better then stock, something for which I will bet on…. Again, this is a very interesting thread and would love to know and feel the comparison myself…. __________________ Telion Chipped PIONEER AVIC-D3/REMOTE, BLUETOOTH/IPOD ADAPTER Type 2 Tranny, Type 2 Calipers Koni Red's Front and Rear Secret Weapon R Intake W/Cold Air Box MTX 5 Channel AMP/Kenwood Mono 600 Watt Amp Infinity Kappa’s Front and Rear 12 Inch L5 Solo-Baric Hirschmann 2040 Automatic-Antenna 8000K H.I.D's/Fog Lights By Mac Cross Drilled/Slotted Rotors JDM AC Control Unit *Coming Soon's* 3.5 Swap by "DA MAN" Mike Diaz - In Two Months Time Baby!

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Edify Just Another Guy Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Sarasota, FL Posts: 278 Car 1: '91 Coupe L Car 2: NA Miata Car 3: 96 Tahoe / CBR-F4 iTrader: (2)	Step it up Matt!!!! I'm loving your chip. I know you've been through a lot of junk the past year(s). If I do any more mods I'll be looking you up for the stage3. Nice to know I'm getting better mpg. Unfortunately, I've gone from doing mostly highway to now mostly city. Your results look spot on for what I was getting with the stock chip. -Ed __________________ Custom CAI - sr5guy stage II chip - EGR Block - TB Bypass - Blackend's Damper - Custom 2" Y Pipe - Magnaflow Cat - 2.5" B Pipe - Type II IM - ME 6000k HID. 14.99 @ 94.12 before manifold.

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Billyjack187 Wrench Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Colorado Posts: 164 Car 1: 1995 Chevy K2500 Turbo Diesel Car 2: 1992 Honda Accord LX Car 3: 1993 Acura Legend T2 iTrader: (0)	Someone do a type deuce review! Im still about a month out on getting all my parts together to drive my project Ac! Heh "preferences" is that what gay guys say? LMAO!!! Sorry I has to say something!!!

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