Telion VS SR5guy VS Stock ECU - Page 3

Black Type II · 03-19-08, 08:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Forevralegend

yes it does because it recirculates exhaust gas into the engine to help in the combustion process and makes it more efficient however by circulating hot gas it hurts your hp since you want the coldest possible air going into your engine.

really, wow so how do i get a bigger EGR pipe????

Forevralegend · 03-19-08, 06:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Black Type II

really, wow so how do i get a bigger EGR pipe????

lol if you want better fuel economy just make sure its cleaned out and not clogged like most are. if you want more power just leave it clogged or get an egr block plate haha

bboarder711 · 03-19-08, 06:16 PM

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Originally Posted by superstreet4life

well some questions for bboarder. what mods does your car have? is your car an at or mt? egr gone? cat? little things that may differ from person to person. not dissing your hard work. just wondering so we can get a better understanding of what you are working with. thanks for the amazing post

I have listed my mods through out my first post however i will do it again and also edit it to make it clearER.

Engine MODS:
-Injen SHORT ram intake
-Remus legend specific CAT back
-NGK platnum plugs
-Mobil 1 synthetic
-Custom www.legendtunner.com Grounding kit
-I also have Type 1 and a electronically controlled 4 speed auto that was the only option for the SE

Also before you start asking about bigger EGRs go look at ballistic's DIY

Black Type II · 03-19-08, 10:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Forevralegend

lol if you want better fuel economy just make sure its cleaned out and not clogged like most are. if you want more power just leave it clogged or get an egr block plate haha

well i feel like the car is sluggish so egr is not blocked, and my mileage sux so egr could be blocked.....which way could it be....lol j/k . well see once i get my car back

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Originally Posted by bboarder711

-I also have Type 1 and a electronically controlled 4 speed auto that was the only option for the SE

Also before you start asking about bigger EGRs go look at ballistic's DIY

i learn something new about Legends everyday (tranny option)

i was only joking about a bigger EGR but ill take a look if i can find his diy

thein · 04-16-08, 06:03 PM

93 type 2 6 speed. Telion's been great to work with I have both the bayou and telion's chip. I felt that the Telion chip may be a bit stronger at the high end but the bayou feels like it pulls better for everyday driving. Been meaning to get back to you telion do you have sr5guy's stage 3 program? I still need to send back your ecu and my chip since it wasn't programmed for tcs.

I wish we could have that collaborative test like we had back in the old forum days. I think all our cars would be better for it. I'd be willing to throw down a little cash so we could dyno all 4 chips side by side on the same car. How much would four dyno pulls cost? If we could pool some cash together maybe we could get it done.

Edify · 04-16-08, 07:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Black Type II

well i feel like the car is sluggish so egr is not blocked, and my mileage sux so egr could be blocked.....which way could it be....lol j/k . well see once i get my car back

i learn something new about Legends everyday (tranny option)

i was only joking about a bigger EGR but ill take a look if i can find his diy

I just took apart 2 intake manifolds. One probably 120k miles and the other 163k miles, and the 120k mile manifold was 90% blocked, and the 163k miles manifold was 100% blocked. I was wondering why I couldn't tell the difference when I put the Dv8 block plate in.

Additionally, I had to clean out the IM, because of all the gunk that is deposited in the manifold. Totally useless.

-Ed

Dv8 · 04-17-08, 03:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Edify

I just took apart 2 intake manifolds. One probably 120k miles and the other 163k miles, and the 120k mile manifold was 90% blocked, and the 163k miles manifold was 100% blocked. I was wondering why I couldn't tell the difference when I put the Dv8 block plate in.

Additionally, I had to clean out the IM, because of all the gunk that is deposited in the manifold. Totally useless.

-Ed

The EGR block plate should keep the EGR pipe and the bottom of the IM clean once cleaned.

It takes a long time for that gunk to accumulate.

~Dv8

mktng · 04-17-08, 10:41 PM

*sigh

seriously? Telion chip will give me worse mpg?

or is it diff between cars...

bboarder711 · 04-18-08, 11:26 AM

i have only tested these chips on my car and only my car (an auto type 1) another test will confirm my numbers or show something interesting

shtewps · 06-23-08, 11:14 PM

bump

did these dynos ever happen??

DandDEE · 06-23-08, 11:49 PM

hmm... not to thread hijack or anything but i thought cleaning out the egr gives both better fuel economy and power (HP)?

i have had Telions chip for some months now and i think i get more power in the 3k to 5.5k area...more pull i mean does sr5guys chip pull more on the lower end or higher end, dont get me wrong i have won many "drag" races with this chip can anyone with sr5guy's chip tell me wat the feeling of his chip is?

Forevralegend · 06-24-08, 01:30 AM

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Originally Posted by DandDEE

hmm... not to thread hijack or anything but i thought cleaning out the egr gives both better fuel economy and power (HP)?

i have had Telions chip for some months now and i think i get more power in the 3k to 5.5k area...more pull i mean does sr5guys chip pull more on the lower end or higher end, dont get me wrong i have won many "drag" races with this chip can anyone with sr5guy's chip tell me wat the feeling of his chip is?

like i said before.. check out this link 3.2 VS 3.5!!
the dyno's show you exactly where the extra power is added.

Telion · 06-24-08, 01:49 AM

True on your chip in comparison to a stock chip on your car, there is certaily no dispute as to the benefits of advanced timing throught the powerband with your specific mods. I actually have his chip on file. And anyone who may ask no please do not ask I will not provide an SR5guy chip out of respect and to him. I can say on the other hand where there are areas on each the 3.5 and the 3.2 where advanced timing is not the best way to go with the mods that the majority of the forum has. DV8 said it best a car specific tune on the street and a dyno is the best way to go, we are each just providing something that fills the void for those that do not have the time, money, equipment or desire to do so.

Fat Mexican · 06-24-08, 02:23 AM

lets see some dynos!

Telion · 06-24-08, 02:27 AM

Agreed there would be much to gain from this pfovided dynos on the TI were shared and on a vehicle that was closest to the vehicle that is most commonly found for someone who sought such a mod, but I had been asking for this for months, at one point I even offered to socket and chip a car for 50.00 to have this done.