Dv8

a 15.2!? i dont get it. 300hp allwheel drive?

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You, of all people, should know quartermile runs are not all about horsepower. you dont need horsepower like that in quartmile. you need torque, and the RL doesn't have Ubob gobs of torque (about 270ftlbs) and it also weighs 3940 lbs with driver with AWD that transfers power to more wheels. and more drivetrain loss..

15.2 is damn good for that car fully loaded as it is. let us not forget that it DOES handle much better than just about everything in it's class.

i'd be willing to put money on it being a mid 14second car if acura had thrown the 6spd in it.

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I would also say it is mostly the weight and large drivetrain loss. I have a feeling it looses more than conventional AWD systems. Either way, while I am somewhat dissapointed that it is not a sub 15 second car out of the box, 15.2 I can surely live with since I'm more interested in the electronic features of this car. From all the manufacturers speculated performance data, this car is still equal to or a few tenths faster than the upcoming AWD GS300 from Lexus, so I would say it is okay for now. Hopefully Honda gives it an upgrade in 2 years with either more HP and torque, or a 6-Speed trans.

KindBuddy

I'm also dissapointed with 15.2. I like the electronics, but I like the mechanical engineering better. If I had the car, I'd try to lighten it up a bit and of course open up intake and exhaust. That should yield some 14's. Even that sounds slow because I had my fingers crossed for low 14's stock, but oh well.

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It's heavy, more drivetrain loss as mentioned. It's not meant to be a super fast car, just a quick car with some luxuries. Sorta like the Legend when it was released in its' time. By no means a sportscar but quick enough.

The RL seems to be engineered more towards track performance, not drag racing (straight line racing). I'd bet it would hold its' own very very well on the track.

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C'mon guys, the RL is not designed for the track, it is the top-of-the-line luxury vehicle from Acura. If I were looking for a track car and purely focused on performance it wouldn't be anywhere near my list.

Let's face it, the chances of getting a significant number of aftermarket parts for the RL is likely going to be small, not many will want to put twin turbos, superchargers, cat-backs or hard racing suspensions on their nice luxury vehicle. As for reducing the weight, I'm not sure what you would/could strip out, but remember that you are starting off with a real heavy car.

I used to go to the track (1/4 mile and open track at Laguna Seca) with my old car...now the Mustang is made for mods and made for the track

Just my $0.02

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ChrisK

I agree, but I think you are wrong about the aftermarket. At least that is my guess. Since the new RL now uses the J series engine minor modifications and tuning will need to be done to adapt the Accord/TL/CL performance parts. The only thing the old Legend and RL were really missing were bolt on FI kits and headers. These are all parts offered on the other J series equiped cars. I'm holding out hope that Japan tuning companies are/will recieve the new Legend/RL with open arms and develop some nice aftermarket parts. I'm hoping the aftermarket will even come out with some sort of SH-AWD controller similar to what they have for OEM air suspensions. Anyway, another magazine (I don't know which one as it was just posted by someone else) got a 0-60 of 15.0 for the new RL so I'm willing to bet that once broken in the car will be a high 14 second car which is great.

petemc

ChrisK,

The I guess it remains to be seen whether there will be interest in creating aftermarket parts for the new RL. I agree that the best bet will be via the TL 'cos I still don't believe that there will be any significant demand from the RL. Looking under the hood, there ain't much room to fit a supercharger in there

As for times, high 14s just wouldn't be fast enough for me to get interested in doing any modding, but I must admit that it would be cool to try the paddle shifters on a 1/4 mile...not sure if they would be faster than a real stick and power shifts.

SH-AWD on the track would also be interesting, but I would probably swap out the springs first. I think it would have been great for the new RL to offer adjustable suspension, where it could offer multiple modes...softer for normal driving and harder for agressive driving...ah well...

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Pete

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If you want more power buy a muscle car.

If you want more speed, build yourself a hot rod.

If you want a fully equipped luxury car at a reasonable cost, one that has a quick response to meet normal city demands, buy an Acura RL.

Don't expect an RL to compete with the thundering herd.

1SICKLEX

No torque and it does weigh 4000lbs and the gearing is just not aggresive. The RL is not a performance car.

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I guess the GS300 and GS300AWD are in the same boat, right? Nah of course not since you are the Lexus whoring troll and will refuse to look at the facts....

BTW there is more to performance than acceleration....but yeah, it isn't a performance car. Performance cars are things like the Lotus Elise and other cars like that. The RL is a luxury sports sedan designed to be quick enough while you drive in sweet luxury.

1SICKLEX

Hey Rob, here is the question in the thread.
Why is the new RL so slow?
So I answered his question. And quite frankly, 0-60 in 6.7-7.0 seconds is not slow.
Then you add your usual Lexus comment which is getting at this point.

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ChrisK

One thing to note is the original poster of this topic (Dv8) is a true performance guy. He has a hybrid Legend with a 3.5 RL bottom end and TYPE II heads running lots of other engine upgrades as well as nitrous. To him, 0-60 in 6.7 and 15.0 flat is slow

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1sicklex, why are you on every freakin acura board?

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