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Old 10-09-07, 11:00 PM   #16 (permalink)
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who r u and why arent you banned again yet?

PS-anybody that is into performance on this site knows well enough to seperate BS from the rest....
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Old 10-12-07, 09:46 AM   #17 (permalink)
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I 'm thinking about maybe using a procharger...Which is basically a compressor from a turbo with a pulley on it to drive the turbine fan......The great thing about it is that it requires no oil or coolant lines..It has it's own self contained oil to keep it lubricated and cool......after a specific period of time you just change it....There's a universal kit you can buy and they can build a procharger to whatever specs you need zThe plumbing for that is a whole nother thing along with mounting would all be custom but that's the fun part
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Old 10-12-07, 06:25 PM   #18 (permalink)
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Hey now fellas, I used the search function. Maybe somebody else will come across it and not be so mislead.
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I'm glad you've brought up the old thread and written the information you have. I have a G1 at present but will one day be making an upgrade to a G2 or RL. I don't know a lot about turbocharging and reading your points was useful. It's hard for us non-mechanical types to discern BS from the truth so it's good to have guys on here who impart knowledge without condescending or looking down on other people like this sort of info should be known by everyone. Thanks again for writing the info, screw what some others might say
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Old 10-12-07, 08:33 PM   #19 (permalink)
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who r u and why arent you banned again yet?

PS-anybody that is into performance on this site knows well enough to seperate BS from the rest....
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Old 10-13-07, 03:43 AM   #21 (permalink)
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IN FACT a turbo on an automatic car can be especially exciting because you can power-brake the car and generate boost at launch...which in an optimal setup effectively beats a crankshaft driven blower in all respects at the drag strip.

That is until the ECU detects load being put on the engine and retards the timing....
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Old 10-16-07, 05:50 PM   #22 (permalink)
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Damn steelman is that your RL? Thats clean! Post up a pics thread sometime...
Yes sir, that is her (she's still under 50k miles). I'll make sure to post a pic thread shortly.

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That is until the ECU detects load being put on the engine and retards the timing....
retarded ignition timing increases EGTs and therefore lowers the boost threshold...which increases the amount of boost available at launch.

OBVIOUSLY you didn't know that.
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Old 10-22-07, 11:11 PM   #23 (permalink)
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Yes sir, that is her (she's still under 50k miles). I'll make sure to post a pic thread shortly.



retarded ignition timing increases EGTs and therefore lowers the boost threshold...which increases the amount of boost available at launch.

OBVIOUSLY you didn't know that.
beyond the point of beneficial retardation.

But he was speaking specifically of the Legend. That's been the biggest issue with Legends and RLs. Managing the ECU. Home Brew Hacks don't work too well since the car is full of redundancy systems that make up for a lot of the hacks people do. Problem is the engine is flooded with fuel and timing is pretty much all but cut off.
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then you throw in the ems...... where the heck is the OP???
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ahh your wrong. a turbo will kill a auto tranny. why do you think most supercharged cars are auto except the cobalt. because autos have traction control, manuals dont. a turbo is good for a manual, because it takes time to spool up turbos so you dont have a jumpy car off the line. all gtp pontiacs are auto and supercharged and are really fast.
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ah but a manual that had a controlable bypass valve electronically could assist in this department, you cold possibly even control it like the high or low VIS solenoids hmmm
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ah but a manual that had a controlable bypass valve electronically could assist in this department, you cold possibly even control it like the high or low VIS solenoids hmmm
still wouldnt it be all jumpy off the line because its at full boost already?
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still wouldnt it be all jumpy off the line because its at full boost already?
No, because the bypass valve reduces the amount of psi by bypassing the rotors (roots style) it really allows the engine to suck in a portion of the air from the intake before it gets to the rotors reducing the psi. It is however designed to reduce the pressure under deceleratin or less need for boost conditions but I have a different agenda for it.
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you can just supercharge your RL ....Turbocharging it doesn't make any sense becaues turbo are best useful for manual cars (stick) and supercharge is for automatics you can put a turbo if you want but you'll get better performance by getting a supercharge
wait so ur telling me a Automatic 94 TT supra is not useful???
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ahh your wrong. a turbo will kill a auto tranny. why do you think most supercharged cars are auto except the cobalt. because autos have traction control, manuals dont. a turbo is good for a manual, because it takes time to spool up turbos so you dont have a jumpy car off the line. all gtp pontiacs are auto and supercharged and are really fast.

if that's the case a Grand National is utter retardation...

I haven't heard bull like that in a while. Sorry bro, but research is your best friend...

A turbo is best suited to automatics because you can spool it up on the line. Have you ever launched a turbo car before? Hell i have an Automatic Turbocharged car what kinda stuff are you on?

Automatics with traction control?! Tell that to the Lexus IS300 5spd. I'm almost positive the M3 manual has Traction control too, it's a manual transmission car....hell the Legend had TCS as a manual transmission what kinda stuff are you on about???

The fastest Turbocharged Drag Racers are Automatics...i just don't get your reasoning.
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