Sub questions

sourdiesel · 07-08-08, 03:51 PM

I am going to be installing two Eclipse SW6210 12" subs. I am going to run these off of an Alpine PDX 1000.1 amp. So I have a few questions before I do this to make sure this will all work out. I already have a 400w 4 channel running my 4 internal infinity speakers and a distribution block with 4 guage wire going into it. Ok so now that you have the background here are my questions....

1.) Will this setup work / sound good?
2.) Will I need a capacitor / how many farads?
3.) What type of sub enclosure should I get / where?
4.) What type of sub enclosure will fit good in my 94 Legend sedan?
5.) Am I missing anything else?

Thank you guys. You are always a big help!

Edit: Heres a link to the subs: ECLIPSE Subwoofers SW6210/SW6010 | Fujitsu Ten

Ophidian · 07-08-08, 04:15 PM

Type of sub enclosure depends on if you're going for Sound Quality or SPL (loudness)..SPL gets louder but you lose sound quality..sealed box for sound quality and ported for SPL...usually you can find recommended specs by the sub manu on their website...they recommend either ported or sealed boxes and sometimes the dimensions (size per chamber)...Custom built box to the specs for your trunk will sound best...am in this process too, lol...I am going for SQ, not entering any competitions and I am not trying to impress anybody, so SQ for me....sealed box. G'luck.

sourdiesel · 07-08-08, 04:17 PM

I would like to go for sound quality also. I have a feeling that this setup will be plenty loud without going to SPL haha.

Ophidian · 07-08-08, 04:32 PM

Good call.

sourdiesel · 07-10-08, 12:04 PM

any advice from anyone else??

-=DBS=- · 07-11-08, 03:10 PM

I would put a minimum of a 1 Farad cap in.

but from what it looks like, the best would prob be a 1.5 farad cap or a 2.0 cap..

Cranberry_Legend · 07-11-08, 03:19 PM

for everything to sound good..in my opinion..you need to have great installation...a lot of ppl look pass that when its very important...so is the enclosure....so dont go cheap on the enclosure...they can make or break your system.....use as much sound deadning as you can afford....proper tuning of amps is important as well....if you do use the cap..then get rid of the dist. block...dont need to much resistance...and you should be fine..

sourdiesel · 07-14-08, 12:16 PM

Going to dynamat the trunk after everything is installed. I am having all of the components installed professionally because I am worried about everything being tuned properly and a good solid ground and especially the enclosure. I am having it all done by the same car audio shop who did my HU, internal speakers, and 4 channel amp and that sounds great so I trust them to do the same this time. Thanks for the advice guys. Any suggestions on specific caps?

Cranberry_Legend · 07-14-08, 02:43 PM

you know what can set this system off..if you had 2 jl audio 500.1 amps..1 to each sub...man it will deff push them subs hard..

sourdiesel · 07-14-08, 02:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cranberry_Legend

you know what can set this system off..if you had 2 jl audio 500.1 amps..1 to each sub...man it will deff push them subs hard..

My distro block only has 1 open socket so i would have to buy another distro and I already have the RCA cable ran back for only 1 amp. I think the 1000 watt alpine should push them both pretty hard.

DevanTheDude · 07-14-08, 04:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cranberry_Legend

you know what can set this system off..if you had 2 jl audio 500.1 amps..1 to each sub...man it will deff push them subs hard..

+1. Of course I have 3 amps running my front speakers, so I definately believe in headroom.

sourdiesel · 07-14-08, 04:46 PM

why push 2 JL 500.1 when I can push 1 Alpine pdx 1000.1 and save room? won't they still bump real hard?

DevanTheDude · 07-14-08, 05:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sourdiesel

why push 2 JL 500.1 when I can push 1 Alpine pdx 1000.1 and save room? won't they still bump real hard?

Absolutely. You won't be disappointed.
The advantage of running multiple amps is that you can keep the gains much lower. Lower gains means the amps will run cleaner, more efficiently, and stay nice and cool. Plus the power is there to blast those subs if you ever wanted to.

The Alpine PDX is a class D though so your power draw will be less, and your system will be easier to set up. Multiple amp setups are more for SQ and SPL competition. May be a little more than you were trying to get into....

What kind of box are you going with?

sourdiesel · 07-14-08, 06:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DevanTheDude

Absolutely. You won't be disappointed.
The advantage of running multiple amps is that you can keep the gains much lower. Lower gains means the amps will run cleaner, more efficiently, and stay nice and cool. Plus the power is there to blast those subs if you ever wanted to.

The Alpine PDX is a class D though so your power draw will be less, and your system will be easier to set up. Multiple amp setups are more for SQ and SPL competition. May be a little more than you were trying to get into....

What kind of box are you going with?

I actually have no idea I was hoping to hear from everyone on that subject specifically... I am pretty clueless on that issue. Suggestions please???

Ophidian · 07-15-08, 06:16 AM

I say go sealed!

07-08-08, 03:51 PM	#1 (permalink)
sourdiesel Registered User Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: PA Posts: 295 Car 1: 94 Acura Legend iTrader: (0)	Sub questions I am going to be installing two Eclipse SW6210 12" subs. I am going to run these off of an Alpine PDX 1000.1 amp. So I have a few questions before I do this to make sure this will all work out. I already have a 400w 4 channel running my 4 internal infinity speakers and a distribution block with 4 guage wire going into it. Ok so now that you have the background here are my questions.... 1.) Will this setup work / sound good? 2.) Will I need a capacitor / how many farads? 3.) What type of sub enclosure should I get / where? 4.) What type of sub enclosure will fit good in my 94 Legend sedan? 5.) Am I missing anything else? Thank you guys. You are always a big help! Edit: Heres a link to the subs: ECLIPSE Subwoofers SW6210/SW6010 \| Fujitsu Ten __________________ “I feel sorry for people who don't drink. When they wake up in the morning, that's as good as they're going to feel all day.” - Frank Sinatra “Oh, you hate your job? Why didn't you say so? There's a support group for that. It's called EVERYBODY, and they meet at the bar.” - Drew Carey 94 Gold Acura Legend L Mods - 6 1/2 Infinity Kappa perfects,6x9 Infinity Kappa perfects, Alpine 4 channel V12 amp, Alpine CDA-9883 HU, Alpine pdx 1.1000 amp, Eclipse SW6210 subs, Quantum Cap, 12,000k HID's Last edited by sourdiesel : 07-08-08 at 04:15 PM.

07-08-08, 04:15 PM	#2 (permalink)
Ophidian Registered User Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Everett, WA. USA Posts: 1,133 Car 1: 90 LS Coupe 5speed iTrader: (9)	Type of sub enclosure depends on if you're going for Sound Quality or SPL (loudness)..SPL gets louder but you lose sound quality..sealed box for sound quality and ported for SPL...usually you can find recommended specs by the sub manu on their website...they recommend either ported or sealed boxes and sometimes the dimensions (size per chamber)...Custom built box to the specs for your trunk will sound best...am in this process too, lol...I am going for SQ, not entering any competitions and I am not trying to impress anybody, so SQ for me....sealed box. G'luck. __________________ 35% Tint New Paint MA 6.5" front Cold Air Intake H.O. Alternator Eclipse AVN6610 JL Audio A4300 amp Focal Access 6x9's rear Stromung muffler from GB Clifford Matrix 50.5x alarm Waiting to be installed: Front strut tower bar 2 Orion HCCA 2100 amps 2 12" Cadence Daytona competition subs

07-08-08, 04:17 PM	#3 (permalink)
sourdiesel Registered User Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: PA Posts: 295 Car 1: 94 Acura Legend iTrader: (0)	I would like to go for sound quality also. I have a feeling that this setup will be plenty loud without going to SPL haha. __________________ “I feel sorry for people who don't drink. When they wake up in the morning, that's as good as they're going to feel all day.” - Frank Sinatra “Oh, you hate your job? Why didn't you say so? There's a support group for that. It's called EVERYBODY, and they meet at the bar.” - Drew Carey 94 Gold Acura Legend L Mods - 6 1/2 Infinity Kappa perfects,6x9 Infinity Kappa perfects, Alpine 4 channel V12 amp, Alpine CDA-9883 HU, Alpine pdx 1.1000 amp, Eclipse SW6210 subs, Quantum Cap, 12,000k HID's

07-08-08, 04:32 PM	#4 (permalink)
Ophidian Registered User Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Everett, WA. USA Posts: 1,133 Car 1: 90 LS Coupe 5speed iTrader: (9)	Good call. __________________ 35% Tint New Paint MA 6.5" front Cold Air Intake H.O. Alternator Eclipse AVN6610 JL Audio A4300 amp Focal Access 6x9's rear Stromung muffler from GB Clifford Matrix 50.5x alarm Waiting to be installed: Front strut tower bar 2 Orion HCCA 2100 amps 2 12" Cadence Daytona competition subs

07-10-08, 12:04 PM	#5 (permalink)
sourdiesel Registered User Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: PA Posts: 295 Car 1: 94 Acura Legend iTrader: (0)	any advice from anyone else?? __________________ “I feel sorry for people who don't drink. When they wake up in the morning, that's as good as they're going to feel all day.” - Frank Sinatra “Oh, you hate your job? Why didn't you say so? There's a support group for that. It's called EVERYBODY, and they meet at the bar.” - Drew Carey 94 Gold Acura Legend L Mods - 6 1/2 Infinity Kappa perfects,6x9 Infinity Kappa perfects, Alpine 4 channel V12 amp, Alpine CDA-9883 HU, Alpine pdx 1.1000 amp, Eclipse SW6210 subs, Quantum Cap, 12,000k HID's

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07-11-08, 03:10 PM	#6 (permalink)
-=DBS=- Why So Serious??? Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Toronto Posts: 489 Car 1: 1988 Acura Legend Coupe (BMW Alpine White) 5pd Car 2: 91 Legend Coupe iTrader: (0)	I would put a minimum of a 1 Farad cap in. but from what it looks like, the best would prob be a 1.5 farad cap or a 2.0 cap.. __________________ The White Knight - The Machine, the Myth, the F'n LEGEND!

07-11-08, 03:19 PM	#7 (permalink)
Cranberry_Legend Registered User Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: New Jersey Posts: 1,414 Car 1: 1991 Legend iTrader: (9)	for everything to sound good..in my opinion..you need to have great installation...a lot of ppl look pass that when its very important...so is the enclosure....so dont go cheap on the enclosure...they can make or break your system.....use as much sound deadning as you can afford....proper tuning of amps is important as well....if you do use the cap..then get rid of the dist. block...dont need to much resistance...and you should be fine.. __________________ rims in my pic for sale...20 inch chrome rims...$700...with tires...

07-14-08, 12:16 PM	#8 (permalink)
sourdiesel Registered User Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: PA Posts: 295 Car 1: 94 Acura Legend iTrader: (0)	Going to dynamat the trunk after everything is installed. I am having all of the components installed professionally because I am worried about everything being tuned properly and a good solid ground and especially the enclosure. I am having it all done by the same car audio shop who did my HU, internal speakers, and 4 channel amp and that sounds great so I trust them to do the same this time. Thanks for the advice guys. Any suggestions on specific caps? __________________ “I feel sorry for people who don't drink. When they wake up in the morning, that's as good as they're going to feel all day.” - Frank Sinatra “Oh, you hate your job? Why didn't you say so? There's a support group for that. It's called EVERYBODY, and they meet at the bar.” - Drew Carey 94 Gold Acura Legend L Mods - 6 1/2 Infinity Kappa perfects,6x9 Infinity Kappa perfects, Alpine 4 channel V12 amp, Alpine CDA-9883 HU, Alpine pdx 1.1000 amp, Eclipse SW6210 subs, Quantum Cap, 12,000k HID's

07-14-08, 02:43 PM	#9 (permalink)
Cranberry_Legend Registered User Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: New Jersey Posts: 1,414 Car 1: 1991 Legend iTrader: (9)	you know what can set this system off..if you had 2 jl audio 500.1 amps..1 to each sub...man it will deff push them subs hard.. __________________ rims in my pic for sale...20 inch chrome rims...$700...with tires...

07-14-08, 04:46 PM	#12 (permalink)
sourdiesel Registered User Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: PA Posts: 295 Car 1: 94 Acura Legend iTrader: (0)	why push 2 JL 500.1 when I can push 1 Alpine pdx 1000.1 and save room? won't they still bump real hard? __________________ “I feel sorry for people who don't drink. When they wake up in the morning, that's as good as they're going to feel all day.” - Frank Sinatra “Oh, you hate your job? Why didn't you say so? There's a support group for that. It's called EVERYBODY, and they meet at the bar.” - Drew Carey 94 Gold Acura Legend L Mods - 6 1/2 Infinity Kappa perfects,6x9 Infinity Kappa perfects, Alpine 4 channel V12 amp, Alpine CDA-9883 HU, Alpine pdx 1.1000 amp, Eclipse SW6210 subs, Quantum Cap, 12,000k HID's

07-15-08, 06:16 AM	#15 (permalink)
Ophidian Registered User Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Everett, WA. USA Posts: 1,133 Car 1: 90 LS Coupe 5speed iTrader: (9)	I say go sealed! __________________ 35% Tint New Paint MA 6.5" front Cold Air Intake H.O. Alternator Eclipse AVN6610 JL Audio A4300 amp Focal Access 6x9's rear Stromung muffler from GB Clifford Matrix 50.5x alarm Waiting to be installed: Front strut tower bar 2 Orion HCCA 2100 amps 2 12" Cadence Daytona competition subs

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