Bait Car (on truTV)

morbo · 03-21-08, 02:12 AM

I just DVr'd this show....

It's fucking entrapment, but I digress....

Anyone who has seen it: 80% of the cars on the show were Acuras (All teg's from what I could tell)

I thought Acuras weren't even on the top 5 of stolen vehicles anymore?

Interesting how the Acks still attract theft aqlmost 10 years after production

samblaze · 03-21-08, 03:18 AM

As of early 07, if I remember correctly, three of the top stolen cars were Honda/Acura (Civic, Accord, Integra)...Nat'l Insurance Crime Bureau (www.nicb.org)

Ken · 03-21-08, 03:43 AM

hella BS, these things don't catch real car thieves. real car thieves take the time to research and track a car down. Just leaving the windows down on a car with the keys in it only catch people that want to go for a joyride or something. now if they had a modded ITR or something and just drive it around town then park it and make it look secure, then it would prolly catch a real thief.

G2BMC · 03-21-08, 07:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Ken

hella BS, these things don't catch real car thieves. real car thieves take the time to research and track a car down. Just leaving the windows down on a car with the keys in it only catch people that want to go for a joyride or something. now if they had a modded ITR or something and just drive it around town then park it and make it look secure, then it would prolly catch a real thief.

+1

*Daddymac117* · 03-21-08, 09:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Ken

hella BS, these things don't catch real car thieves. real car thieves take the time to research and track a car down. Just leaving the windows down on a car with the keys in it only catch people that want to go for a joyride or something. now if they had a modded ITR or something and just drive it around town then park it and make it look secure, then it would prolly catch a real thief.

They've also been shown to give their automotive targets female names...

like Eleanor.

sleeprlegendcp · 03-21-08, 11:25 AM

If someone drops a diamond ring on the street does that make it yours to take? They have a valid case. They provide the opportunity, and the criminal decides what to do. I have watched all "Bait Car" episodes. Some times a good person will just park the car in a lot for them.

I wondered how this would work in NY? In NY it is illegal to leave the keys in the car, but all bait cars have the keys in them.

morbo · 03-21-08, 12:31 PM

Ity's the same here in Texas also. Illegal to leave a running car anywhere....

Don't the police have more proactive ways to catch car thieves? Systems like 'lojack' and increased patrols in theft neighborhoods would be dramatically more effective than arresting random people with no real intentions of theft....

If you find $20 on the street and pick it up, only to find some cops were monitoring that $20 and you just played a role in a drug conspiricy? It's a marked bill! And you have it in your pocket!

Scary shit....

sleeprlegendcp · 03-21-08, 03:18 PM

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Originally Posted by morbo

Ity's the same here in Texas also. Illegal to leave a running car anywhere....

Don't the police have more proactive ways to catch car thieves? Systems like 'lojack' and increased patrols in theft neighborhoods would be dramatically more effective than arresting random people with no real intentions of theft....

If you find $20 on the street and pick it up, only to find some cops were monitoring that $20 and you just played a role in a drug conspiricy? It's a marked bill! And you have it in your pocket!

Scary shit....

Just like the nice guy in last nights eppisode. If you try to do the proper thing with that $20 you are legal. Lets compare it to a purse. If someone accidently leaves a purse you would hope it would be safe. The only way to make it safe is to take the preditors off the street. You can't sit and watch every purse to catch the people that would do such a thing. The type of people that steal cars with the keys in them are opportunist. I hope they never see you stick a wad of cash in you wallet at a convience store.

Acidic · 03-21-08, 04:47 PM

moral of the story dont move soemthing that isnt yours, if they cause problems for " parking" and leaving the keys in the ign. thats their problem, park and walk your happy ass like everyone else.

a mother parks her car to run into a conveniant store for a short time and leaves the keys in to keep the ac/heater on rather than take her child out of the car seat lug the kid inside 4 feet to get a drink and some chips or something for the child
man comes by sees the car running and takes off.... how is that less wrong than busting a window jimmying the lock etc?

getting in a car that isnt your without consent to drive it is stealing.

entrapment is when the law gives you no other choice ( or pushes the odds of you commiting a crime to crimes favor ) but to commit a crime and then bust you for it, ive never seen the show but im assuming nobody put a gun to their heads and fail to see this as entrapment, same could be said if they put a viper on the street locked the doors and set the alarm and watched it, the car was just to damn expensive to pass up.

as far as a 20, i find one i keep it, simple fact is, how many people wouldnt claim found money, even if it werent theirs.

way i see it, if you dont notice you lost it you apparently have plenty to lose and wont suffer at the loss ( not hard to keep track of a few bills )

brynosaur · 03-22-08, 01:47 AM

+1 i found $100 in an unmarked envelope, soaking wet in the rain, in a parking lot awhile ago. i swooped it up and took off. i dont feel bad about it.

morbo · 03-22-08, 06:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Acidic

moral of the story dont move soemthing that isnt yours, if they cause problems for " parking" and leaving the keys in the ign. thats their problem, park and walk your happy ass like everyone else.

a mother parks her car to run into a conveniant store for a short time and leaves the keys in to keep the ac/heater on rather than take her child out of the car seat lug the kid inside 4 feet to get a drink and some chips or something for the child
man comes by sees the car running and takes off.... how is that less wrong than busting a window jimmying the lock etc?

getting in a car that isnt your without consent to drive it is stealing.

entrapment is when the law gives you no other choice ( or pushes the odds of you commiting a crime to crimes favor ) but to commit a crime and then bust you for it, ive never seen the show but im assuming nobody put a gun to their heads and fail to see this as entrapment, same could be said if they put a viper on the street locked the doors and set the alarm and watched it, the car was just to damn expensive to pass up.

as far as a 20, i find one i keep it, simple fact is, how many people wouldnt claim found money, even if it werent theirs.

way i see it, if you dont notice you lost it you apparently have plenty to lose and wont suffer at the loss ( not hard to keep track of a few bills )

I disagree 100%. This is entrapment. The vast majority of people walk by it without committing a crime. Let's just say 20% of the people who see the car would be apt to steal it...

Knowing this, the cops place the car in a high-theft area and watch it for suspicious activity. If the car wasn't left running, or in a crime-ridden neighborhood you'd be right-hard time arguing entrapment.

They're COUNTING on that 20% that would be apt to steal the car. They admit as much on the show. It's fucking garbage and profiling....

bicsintegra · 03-23-08, 08:26 PM

i saw it and thought it was funny i thought it was entrapment also but they have been doing this for along time. i think most of the people are just plain stupid if it looks to good to be true it probably isn't.

G2BMC · 03-24-08, 12:15 AM

Its not entrapment, as to u have a choice to steal it. U know its not urs and u have the option to steal it or decline.

$20 bill on the ground. Its "mine". Reason? Because paper doesnt belong to any of us anyway. Its not something that u take home everyday and put away in ur driveway. U replenish it every few weeks or days or hours depending on how u live.

morbo · 03-24-08, 02:14 AM

^
Sadly; you are way off. The law does not coincide with your statements/assumptions....

sleeprlegendcp · 03-24-08, 02:53 AM

So the day that I leave my fully modded Legend with the keys in it I should not care when you steal it? The reality is the people in this world should be good enough to not take what is not thiers. Those who are not should be caught before they can take from the innocent.

Every Bait car I see makes me happy that person is off the street, even if only for 1 night.

03-21-08, 02:12 AM	#1 (permalink)
morbo Registered User Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Earth Posts: 2,940 Car 1: I35 Sedan Car 2: 2004 Lincoln LS iTrader: (0)	Bait Car (on truTV) I just DVr'd this show.... It's fucking entrapment, but I digress.... Anyone who has seen it: 80% of the cars on the show were Acuras (All teg's from what I could tell) I thought Acuras weren't even on the top 5 of stolen vehicles anymore? Interesting how the Acks still attract theft aqlmost 10 years after production __________________ http://ffejbomb.blogspot.com CODEALARM CAR ALARM W/REMOTE START 4 SALE! PM OR EMAIL ME FOR INFO!!! Keepin it real fo the SA The Internet wasn't designed for ridicule. It was invented so researchers could share common data sets at University. It was I tell you.........it was. --Homer Simpson

03-21-08, 03:18 AM	#2 (permalink)
samblaze Sherwood on Type F Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Lakewood, OH Posts: 2,835 iTrader: (10)	As of early 07, if I remember correctly, three of the top stolen cars were Honda/Acura (Civic, Accord, Integra)...Nat'l Insurance Crime Bureau (www.nicb.org) __________________ 86 Saab 900S Coupe 5MT 94 Acura Legend GS 6MT 04 Subaru Forester XS 4EAT Sig by Double Glow

03-21-08, 03:43 AM	#3 (permalink)
Ken aka desired_speeds Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: The Hella Part of Cali Posts: 8,054 Car 1: 91 Legend LS 5-speed converted Car 2: 91 Legend L - parts Car 3: 96 Honda Saber 32v iTrader: (2)	hella BS, these things don't catch real car thieves. real car thieves take the time to research and track a car down. Just leaving the windows down on a car with the keys in it only catch people that want to go for a joyride or something. now if they had a modded ITR or something and just drive it around town then park it and make it look secure, then it would prolly catch a real thief. __________________ . k e n Parting out a 91 L 5-speed, let me know if you need any parts besides engine and 5-speed parts. The car is Rosewood brown with type E cloth interior.

03-21-08, 11:25 AM	#6 (permalink)
sleeprlegendcp Registered User Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: . Posts: 10,099 Car 1: . iTrader: (0)	If someone drops a diamond ring on the street does that make it yours to take? They have a valid case. They provide the opportunity, and the criminal decides what to do. I have watched all "Bait Car" episodes. Some times a good person will just park the car in a lot for them. I wondered how this would work in NY? In NY it is illegal to leave the keys in the car, but all bait cars have the keys in them. __________________ National Acura Legend Meet 2008 - 4th of July - Chattanooga, TN - Click Here!

03-21-08, 12:31 PM	#7 (permalink)
morbo Registered User Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Earth Posts: 2,940 Car 1: I35 Sedan Car 2: 2004 Lincoln LS iTrader: (0)	Ity's the same here in Texas also. Illegal to leave a running car anywhere.... Don't the police have more proactive ways to catch car thieves? Systems like 'lojack' and increased patrols in theft neighborhoods would be dramatically more effective than arresting random people with no real intentions of theft.... If you find $20 on the street and pick it up, only to find some cops were monitoring that $20 and you just played a role in a drug conspiricy? It's a marked bill! And you have it in your pocket! Scary shit.... __________________ http://ffejbomb.blogspot.com CODEALARM CAR ALARM W/REMOTE START 4 SALE! PM OR EMAIL ME FOR INFO!!! Keepin it real fo the SA The Internet wasn't designed for ridicule. It was invented so researchers could share common data sets at University. It was I tell you.........it was. --Homer Simpson

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03-21-08, 04:47 PM	#9 (permalink)
Acidic Viginti Tres Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Tx. Posts: 795 Car 1: 88 MT Sedan L iTrader: (2)	moral of the story dont move soemthing that isnt yours, if they cause problems for " parking" and leaving the keys in the ign. thats their problem, park and walk your happy ass like everyone else. a mother parks her car to run into a conveniant store for a short time and leaves the keys in to keep the ac/heater on rather than take her child out of the car seat lug the kid inside 4 feet to get a drink and some chips or something for the child man comes by sees the car running and takes off.... how is that less wrong than busting a window jimmying the lock etc? getting in a car that isnt your without consent to drive it is stealing. entrapment is when the law gives you no other choice ( or pushes the odds of you commiting a crime to crimes favor ) but to commit a crime and then bust you for it, ive never seen the show but im assuming nobody put a gun to their heads and fail to see this as entrapment, same could be said if they put a viper on the street locked the doors and set the alarm and watched it, the car was just to damn expensive to pass up. as far as a 20, i find one i keep it, simple fact is, how many people wouldnt claim found money, even if it werent theirs. way i see it, if you dont notice you lost it you apparently have plenty to lose and wont suffer at the loss ( not hard to keep track of a few bills ) __________________

03-22-08, 01:47 AM	#10 (permalink)
brynosaur difficult to kill Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: sacto Posts: 752 Car 1: 1995 L coupe iTrader: (1)	+1 i found $100 in an unmarked envelope, soaking wet in the rain, in a parking lot awhile ago. i swooped it up and took off. i dont feel bad about it. __________________ www.myspace.com/thebestbryan BHG free since 2003 95 L coupe 4AT in cashmere silver 60a urethane mounts FL tie bars (newly installed) sr5guy stage III ecu GB Xdrilled/slotted front n rear rebuilt top end (~20k on it so far) weapon r + cold air extension 5wire 4awg ground kit

03-23-08, 08:26 PM	#12 (permalink)
bicsintegra Registered User Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Ellenwood,GA Posts: 2,391 Car 1: rebuilding '91 coupe, iTrader: (0)	i saw it and thought it was funny i thought it was entrapment also but they have been doing this for along time. i think most of the people are just plain stupid if it looks to good to be true it probably isn't. __________________

03-24-08, 12:15 AM	#13 (permalink)
G2BMC B.K.A Runa Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: G-Boro, North Carolina Posts: 1,220 Car 1: '91 Legend LS Car 2: '91 DA Integra iTrader: (2)	Its not entrapment, as to u have a choice to steal it. U know its not urs and u have the option to steal it or decline. $20 bill on the ground. Its "mine". Reason? Because paper doesnt belong to any of us anyway. Its not something that u take home everyday and put away in ur driveway. U replenish it every few weeks or days or hours depending on how u live. __________________ I also wish I had caught a knee cap with him facing me, just to send a message to faggot ass theives that like 2 steal. "NO EASY TARGET HERE. ATTEMPT THEFT AT UR OWN WAGER, BUT WHEN THE HOUSE WINS U MAY LOSE MORE THAN UR CHIPS. i.e. UR LIFE." G2BMC "It's still Big Iggy... B!+(H"

03-24-08, 02:14 AM	#14 (permalink)
morbo Registered User Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Earth Posts: 2,940 Car 1: I35 Sedan Car 2: 2004 Lincoln LS iTrader: (0)	^ Sadly; you are way off. The law does not coincide with your statements/assumptions.... __________________ http://ffejbomb.blogspot.com CODEALARM CAR ALARM W/REMOTE START 4 SALE! PM OR EMAIL ME FOR INFO!!! Keepin it real fo the SA The Internet wasn't designed for ridicule. It was invented so researchers could share common data sets at University. It was I tell you.........it was. --Homer Simpson

03-24-08, 02:53 AM	#15 (permalink)
sleeprlegendcp Registered User Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: . Posts: 10,099 Car 1: . iTrader: (0)	So the day that I leave my fully modded Legend with the keys in it I should not care when you steal it? The reality is the people in this world should be good enough to not take what is not thiers. Those who are not should be caught before they can take from the innocent. Every Bait car I see makes me happy that person is off the street, even if only for 1 night. __________________ National Acura Legend Meet 2008 - 4th of July - Chattanooga, TN - Click Here!

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