Cheap tires versus expensive tires

Herb · 08-08-05, 11:28 PM

So whats the difference?

Sumitomo HTR+ = $68/ea.

Michelin Pilot Sport A/S = $200+/ea.

I've always put Michelin MXV4+s at $150/ea on my car since day one.

Daddy taught me always to use the best rubber I could.

But really, I'm getting new rims and tires, 215/50/17s, so I'm really wondering if its worth paying so much more for the Michelin's or the Goodyears than the Pirelli P zero neros or the Kumhos or Sumitomos or Yokohamas.

I do think the Eagle F1s look damn sexy.

This post was pretty stupid so I put it in the lounge. I searched though, couldn't find somebody asking what seems like one of those things everybody would be wondering.

aznman007 · 08-08-05, 11:49 PM

Daddy taught me always to use the best rubber I could.

lol i think of condoms

Herb · 08-09-05, 12:04 AM

Hahah, that was the point.

4cruizn · 08-09-05, 12:27 AM

IMO, you get what you pay for. I'll be tire-shopping again in the near future, and for a similar size as well... 215/45/17. I picked up my Falken Z-rated Ziex 512's in May of this year for about $320 for all four (shipped) brand new off Ebay. They are crap. I have had tire bulges and won't put the bulged tires on the front b/c they might blow out (thus I cannot rotate them properly). They wear funny (even after an alignment), have more road noise than I'd like, and after having driven on them for about 15,000 miles, I can tell they're not gonna last much longer. I vote Michelin.

Herb · 08-09-05, 01:00 AM

Hi, I owe you a picture gallery still, coming soon.

I'm shopping for the same size tire you are, BTW, maybe 50s if I can find them. There are new Michelin MVX4s on eBay for $200/Page Ranking.

KINGFABIAN · 08-09-05, 03:02 AM

Ive had Kumho and Ive had the P Zero Neros from Pirelli. Both are really good tires and cheap at that. I recommend them Ive been between these 2 tires for a few years now. The P Zero Neros last longer then the Kumhos but both are almost identical in stickiness to the road and wet weather traction. Both tires are very quiet and smooth ride (considering that I ride on a 40 series low profile its still not gonna be as quiet as factory) I recommend you save $$ and buy the tires from Tirerack ..cheapest prices good quality company. You never know what you gonna get when you score those E-bay deals especially on tires.

LeoLegendATL · 08-09-05, 03:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by arnach

So whats the difference?

Sumitomo HTR+ = $68/ea.

Michelin Pilot Sport A/S = $200+/ea.

I've always put Michelin MXV4+s at $150/ea on my car since day one.

Daddy taught me always to use the best rubber I could.

But really, I'm getting new rims and tires, 215/50/17s, so I'm really wondering if its worth paying so much more for the Michelin's or the Goodyears than the Pirelli P zero neros or the Kumhos or Sumitomos or Yokohamas.

I do think the Eagle F1s look damn sexy.

This post was pretty stupid so I put it in the lounge. I searched though, couldn't find somebody asking what seems like one of those things everybody would be wondering.

You can buy really expensive tires that will perform well, but might not last long. You need to check the season type of tires, tread rating, ie 420AA is good 280 is not, speed rating, etc. All season tires will last longer while ultrahigh performance tires usually won't. get the specs, then decide

**502 MotorSports** · 08-09-05, 07:33 AM

I agree with Guy. You get what you pay for. Sure - they may be cheap, but you may end up buying a set 2x because of issues w/ tire failure. I have learned cheaper is not always better. Get the best you can and cry once

I am running Toyo Proxes T1S and they are awesome. Excellent wet traction (I cannot break them lose in wet unless I do a brake stand w/ DSC off) and awesome dry traction.

245/40 (F) and 275/35 (R)

Also, Leo is right...but you should not skimp on that part of your ride. Its important.

duck · 08-09-05, 10:10 AM

"...because so much is riding on your tires..."

QBoroLegend · 08-09-05, 12:29 PM

Well here's my dilema and my need.

I dont have $400 to $500 dollars to spend on tires. Basically I have $250 to $300 to spend on a set of tires. I need them because I am about to do some traveling. I have used on because I was planning to get some rims and didnt want to get new tires and then have to change them when I get the rims.

I have the OEM size (205/60 R15) what is a decent brand for my money.

PS: I would put the best if you can afford it because tires are an important part of the overall ride and upkeep of the car.

**502 MotorSports** · 08-09-05, 05:26 PM

Reg - I thought I shared with you a few sites that have some really cheap wheel and tire packages? I would say if you absolutely just need some tires to get you to point b and back to a - go to www.treaddepot.com or www.discounttire.com until you have the $$$ to get the right stuff.

QBoroLegend · 08-09-05, 05:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Leon Millette

Reg - I thought I shared with you a few sites that have some really cheap wheel and tire packages? I would say if you absolutely just need some tires to get you to point b and back to a - go to www.treaddepot.com or www.discounttire.com until you have the $$$ to get the right stuff.

I've got no short term memory.

I remember asking tire question before and got some good feedback, but then I forgot everything. I am going to check out these sites, becasue I think I am going to put them on on saturday or maybe in the middle of next week. My first trip is on the 19th.

Smokinfastlegend · 08-09-05, 06:23 PM

hey, i have to say, kumho tires are pretty decent. My friend has exstas on his Turbo Lebaron and they still have alot of tread life on them even after doing some high power manouvors. LOL. And they stick pretty well, if you check i believe tire rack, most of the kumhos have pretty good write ups to them, and they are pretty cheap at the same time.

Ken · 08-09-05, 11:14 PM

kumhos are great and dont kill you wallet

Idrewfelix · 08-09-05, 11:42 PM

Kumho's are by far the best performance + price you can get.

Advan Yokoyamas are next in line, but they can get a tad expensive.

Yay go koreans, they did something right in their lives.

08-08-05, 11:28 PM	#1 (permalink)
Herb Hi Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Antartica Posts: 4,673 iTrader: (0)	Cheap tires versus expensive tires So whats the difference? Sumitomo HTR+ = $68/ea. Michelin Pilot Sport A/S = $200+/ea. I've always put Michelin MXV4+s at $150/ea on my car since day one. Daddy taught me always to use the best rubber I could. But really, I'm getting new rims and tires, 215/50/17s, so I'm really wondering if its worth paying so much more for the Michelin's or the Goodyears than the Pirelli P zero neros or the Kumhos or Sumitomos or Yokohamas. I do think the Eagle F1s look damn sexy. This post was pretty stupid so I put it in the lounge. I searched though, couldn't find somebody asking what seems like one of those things everybody would be wondering. __________________ OBAMA SUCKS

08-08-05, 11:49 PM	#2 (permalink)
aznman007 Legend Whore Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Nashville, Tn Posts: 2,264 Car 1: 1990 Acura Legend L, and 1990 5-spd LS Sedan iTrader: (0)	Daddy taught me always to use the best rubber I could. lol i think of condoms __________________ http://img392.imageshack.us/img392/6018/sepiasig9kf.gif

08-09-05, 12:04 AM	#3 (permalink)
Herb Hi Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Antartica Posts: 4,673 iTrader: (0)	Hahah, that was the point. __________________ OBAMA SUCKS

08-09-05, 12:27 AM	#4 (permalink)
4cruizn Road Trip King Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Phoenix, AZ Posts: 4,597 Car 1: 1994 LS coupe 6-spd Car 2: 1994 GS sedan 6-spd iTrader: (16)	IMO, you get what you pay for. I'll be tire-shopping again in the near future, and for a similar size as well... 215/45/17. I picked up my Falken Z-rated Ziex 512's in May of this year for about $320 for all four (shipped) brand new off Ebay. They are crap. I have had tire bulges and won't put the bulged tires on the front b/c they might blow out (thus I cannot rotate them properly). They wear funny (even after an alignment), have more road noise than I'd like, and after having driven on them for about 15,000 miles, I can tell they're not gonna last much longer. I vote Michelin. __________________ Facebook Me

08-09-05, 01:00 AM	#5 (permalink)
Herb Hi Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Antartica Posts: 4,673 iTrader: (0)	Hi, I owe you a picture gallery still, coming soon. I'm shopping for the same size tire you are, BTW, maybe 50s if I can find them. There are new Michelin MVX4s on eBay for $200/Page Ranking. __________________ OBAMA SUCKS

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08-09-05, 03:02 AM	#6 (permalink)
KINGFABIAN MAN-WHORE Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: FLORIDA Posts: 2,066 Car 1: 1994 Legend Sedan L 2005 Infiniti QX56 iTrader: (0)	Ive had Kumho and Ive had the P Zero Neros from Pirelli. Both are really good tires and cheap at that. I recommend them Ive been between these 2 tires for a few years now. The P Zero Neros last longer then the Kumhos but both are almost identical in stickiness to the road and wet weather traction. Both tires are very quiet and smooth ride (considering that I ride on a 40 series low profile its still not gonna be as quiet as factory) I recommend you save $$ and buy the tires from Tirerack ..cheapest prices good quality company. You never know what you gonna get when you score those E-bay deals especially on tires. __________________ King of the Bling & Lord of the Blang!

08-09-05, 07:33 AM	#8 (permalink)
502 MotorSports 502MotorSports.com Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: ATLVILLE Posts: 9,445 Car 1: e39 540i Car 2: e46 325xi \| e46 330i Car 3: S430 iTrader: (0)	I agree with Guy. You get what you pay for. Sure - they may be cheap, but you may end up buying a set 2x because of issues w/ tire failure. I have learned cheaper is not always better. Get the best you can and cry once I am running Toyo Proxes T1S and they are awesome. Excellent wet traction (I cannot break them lose in wet unless I do a brake stand w/ DSC off) and awesome dry traction. 245/40 (F) and 275/35 (R) Also, Leo is right...but you should not skimp on that part of your ride. Its important. __________________ The Hotness! Elevate Your Standards.... Legend Mod Money! Jasmyn \| Final e39 Pics \| 502MotorSports MySpace

08-09-05, 10:10 AM	#9 (permalink)
duck Victory is fleeting... Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Duck! Posts: 6,125 Car 1: 2007 Honda Ridgeline iTrader: (1)	"...because so much is riding on your tires..."

08-09-05, 12:29 PM	#10 (permalink)
QBoroLegend Son of the Most High Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: In the arms of Queens Posts: 2,375 Car 1: 1994 Acura Legend L Sedan Car 2: 2006 GMC RTS Car 3: 1970 Feet iTrader: (0)	Well here's my dilema and my need. I dont have $400 to $500 dollars to spend on tires. Basically I have $250 to $300 to spend on a set of tires. I need them because I am about to do some traveling. I have used on because I was planning to get some rims and didnt want to get new tires and then have to change them when I get the rims. I have the OEM size (205/60 R15) what is a decent brand for my money. PS: I would put the best if you can afford it because tires are an important part of the overall ride and upkeep of the car. __________________ Jeremiah 29:11 "For I know the plans I have for you," declares the Lord, "plans to prosper you and not to harm you, plans to give you hope and a future." R-Swift, Revolutionary Theme Muzik "Out the dark since the Light sparked when its splittin curtains. Now I live curseless, no longer worthless. Still grippin the mic, but now I just switch purpose."

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502 MotorSports 502MotorSports.com Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: ATLVILLE Posts: 9,445 Car 1: e39 540i Car 2: e46 325xi \| e46 330i Car 3: S430 iTrader: (0)	Reg - I thought I shared with you a few sites that have some really cheap wheel and tire packages? I would say if you absolutely just need some tires to get you to point b and back to a - go to www.treaddepot.com or www.discounttire.com until you have the $$$ to get the right stuff. __________________ The Hotness! Elevate Your Standards.... Legend Mod Money! Jasmyn \| Final e39 Pics \| 502MotorSports MySpace

08-09-05, 11:14 PM	#14 (permalink)
Ken aka desired_speeds Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: The Hella Part of Cali Posts: 8,054 Car 1: 91 Legend LS 5-speed converted Car 2: 91 Legend L - parts Car 3: 96 Honda Saber 32v iTrader: (2)	kumhos are great and dont kill you wallet __________________ . k e n Parting out a 91 L 5-speed, let me know if you need any parts besides engine and 5-speed parts. The car is Rosewood brown with type E cloth interior.

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Idrewfelix Heart of a Supra Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Socal Posts: 760 Car 1: Lexus SC00 GT-T iTrader: (0)	Kumho's are by far the best performance + price you can get. Advan Yokoyamas are next in line, but they can get a tad expensive. Yay go koreans, they did something right in their lives. __________________ Acura Legend 94 LS- rip Lexus SC300 96 Legends never die? Mine sure did.[/size]

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