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Old 02-08-06, 10:28 PM   #1 (permalink)
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effing Acura Dealership!!!! Kinda Funny I guess....

So for those of you who dont lurk around the G1 section, a little background...

My grandfather wants to pick up an 88 sedan parts car (no tranny) to put the 2.7 engine into an 87 2.5 sedan (bad engine/tranny needs a rebuild).

So I posed this question to the Acura "Technicians" at Gold Coast Acura (I'll try to keep it as close to verbatim as possible...cliffs at bottom):

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I have an 87 Sedan with a bad 2.5 engine and I've found a donor 2.7 that I can swap in. I was wondering if the 2.7 will work with the 2.5's transmission?
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Let me check...
Ten Minutes later....TWO "Technicians" return...

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It wont work...The 2.5's engine bay is setup completely different from the 2.7...
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Really how so?
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It was Longitudually mounted and its an inline engine...It may not even bolt up to the tranny...
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W-T-F?? Yeah youre thinking of the 2.5 from the Vigor and TL...I'm talking about the Legend's 2.5
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The Legend never came with the 2.5...it had a 3.2...
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Dude the Legend had the 3.2 from 91-95. Im talking about the 2.5 V6 that was in the Legend in 86 and 87...then from 88 to 90 they had the 2.7...C25a and C27a...
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No man the 2.5 was only availble from 91-98--
I cut him off....

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Yeah the inline 5 cylinder engine from the Vigor and 2.5 TL I know but we are talking about two different engines and two different cars here...Im talking about the 2.5 V6(!!!) from the Legend....
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The Legend and TL both came with the 3.2 but only the TL offered the 2.5 engine....Unless youre talking about the 3.0?? Even if you did get the inline engine into the Legend, youd have some issues with wiring up the Traction Control System and if its a Type "S" Engine you'll have an extra throttle body to worry about...
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(Thinking to myself--I f*ing give up!!! These guys have no idea what the hell they are talking about!!!!) Okay just so you guys know for the future...in 86 and 87, the Legend Sedan had a 2.5 transverse V6 and 87-90 had a 2.7 transverse V6....thanks for all your help
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Hey no problem man anytime....good luck...hope you can get it up and running!
Cliffs: My Acura Dealership doesnt know sh!t about the G1 Legends and MINIMAL stuff about the G2 Legends!! What a sad sad reality....

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Old 02-09-06, 01:04 AM   #2 (permalink)
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so are they like close by so you can stop in for a visit..with the service manager..LMAO
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Old 02-09-06, 01:23 AM   #3 (permalink)
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fill out a "how are we doing" card, and let them have it. "Your Technicians need to learn about the car before they actually start removing pieces by help of a book", cause thats all these new technicians are doing is following directions to something (at least thats what i have seen)
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Old 02-09-06, 01:28 AM   #4 (permalink)
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LOL

Some people are sooooooo stupid. LOL
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Old 02-09-06, 12:45 PM   #5 (permalink)
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lol.. the dealer here thought mine was an integra, the first time i went there
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One thing about dealership technicians, they are generation specific (for lack of a better term). Usually these are guys straight from auto school or something. They dont really know that much about other cars and generations. The work on current models all day that's all they really know. Maybe there is an old dude who has been with Acura long enough to know the other models and such, but these young guys are just newbies, so to speak. I get more info from the shade tree mechs and corner shops guys then from the actual Acura Technicians. There's one Acura dealership here in NYC that wont even give you an appointment if you have an older car - they ask what year you have first and then tell you either they have a time for you or not

I tested them, told them I had a 94Legend - they said they were booked solid for 3 weeks. I had my wife call right after and tell them she has a 03 RL and needed an oil change - they gave her 8AM the next day!!! Then just for the heck of it, I emailed my cousin and asked him to call and say he has the "05 RL" and he hears something funny, they told him to come in SAME DAY at 3pm. Whatttttt?
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One thing about dealership technicians, they are generation specific (for lack of a better term). Usually these are guys straight from auto school or something. They dont really know that much about other cars and generations. The work on current models all day that's all they really know. Maybe there is an old dude who has been with Acura long enough to know the other models and such, but these young guys are just newbies, so to speak. I get more info from the shade tree mechs and corner shops guys then from the actual Acura Technicians. There's one Acura dealership here in NYC that wont even give you an appointment if you have an older car - they ask what year you have first and then tell you either they have a time for you or not

I tested them, told them I had a 94Legend - they said they were booked solid for 3 weeks. I had my wife call right after and tell them she has a 03 RL and needed an oil change - they gave her 8AM the next day!!! Then just for the heck of it, I emailed my cousin and asked him to call and say he has the "05 RL" and he hears something funny, they told him to come in SAME DAY at 3pm. Whatttttt?
Thats total b/s! I would bring it to better bussiness burrow
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^ wanna call in and ask about an 86?
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It's true the dealer isn't the best place to get info. on older models. Hey, what you gonna do? I call and ask them for part numbers to see what can and cannot be exchanged and as for harder questions, I come here. I can't put a price on this communities worth.
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as for harder questions, I come here. I can't put a price on this communities worth.
AMEN TO THAT!!!

LOL I forgot to comment in my priginal post about how I had to bite my lip when the "Tech" said "If you do get the inline engine into the Legend....and if its A TYPE S ENGINE YOULL HAVE AN EXTRA THROTTLE BODY TO WORRY ABOUT....

W-T-F!!?? Even if he IS a generation-specific Tech....youd think that hed know that there was never such a thing as a 2.5 Type S in the engine he was thinking of...NOR was there EVER a 5 cylinder Type S or EVEN THAT THERE WAS NO SUCH THING AS TYPE S PRIOR TO 2000!!??.......ohh the hilariousness of it all....

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So for those of you who dont lurk around the G1 section, a little background...

My grandfather wants to pick up an 88 sedan parts car (no tranny) to put the 2.7 engine into an 87 2.5 sedan (bad engine/tranny needs a rebuild).

So I posed this question to the Acura "Technicians" at Gold Coast Acura (I'll try to keep it as close to verbatim as possible...cliffs at bottom):





Ten Minutes later....TWO "Technicians" return...















I cut him off....









Cliffs: My Acura Dealership doesnt know sh!t about the G1 Legends and MINIMAL stuff about the G2 Legends!! What a sad sad reality....
Thats another dipsh!t that thinks of only G2s when someone says Legend. I own a G2 and when someone says Legend I think of the G1s. I'll admit it, the G2 is just a glorified Accord!
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Someone should print out this post and send it to the manager of that stealership!
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My question is: Do cars have more than one throttle body? I dont think so, but then again I am not a mechanic.

Someone told me that at pepboys and other places like that there is usually 1 or 2 actual SAE Licensed and Certified "Automotive Mechanics". The rest are just Automotive Technicians. Like the difference between a:

Police Officer and a Security Guard
Registered Nurse and a LPN
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Maybe that is what is going on there - maybe you should go there and ask them again in front of their manager (chances are the manager has the same knowledge and then you dont want your car there anyway)
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Well I have a fairly good relationship with the guys in the parts department over there...It is the closeset Acura Dealership to me as it is 10 minutes away and the next one is about 30-45 minutes....so I always go there for my Oil Filters etc. but Ive never once utilized the service department until yesterday....

Frankly I felt a little cheated walking away because the dealership will charge like $70/hour on labor with these two guys working on cars (that are probably worth more than all three of my cars combined) and here I am like a sucker scrounging by at my bullsh!t pay rate counseling real people with real problems...AND I STILL probably have automotive skills at least equal to theirs!! AND I ONLY WORK ON CARS AS A HOBBY!!!....it just didnt leave me with a clean taste in my mouth....[/rant]
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I'll admit it, the G2 is just a glorified Accord!
oh the beating i would get if i said something like that.. not like i have an accord or anything
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