LegendFan91

My friend, who is a very intelligent and well-respected engineer, does not believe in evolution. He told me that there is no evidence whatsoever to support it.

What are you guys' takes on evolution?

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slartibartfast

You better tell your friend that there's no evidence for intelligent design, either. What's his theory on fossils?

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LegendFan91

I think he believes that things existed in prehistoric times, just that they did not evolve into the species we have today.

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SuperCoupe93

i totally believe in evolution...i think its hard to go to college and not have your perceptions of the world around you changed

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slartibartfast

And I'll bet his theory of how things came to be today would be humorous to those of us who DO believe that Darwin's Theory of Evolution best fits the available data. Occam's razor and all that...

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Daddymac117

I believe in evolution, and i also believe that this thread is going to go down the tubes before the weekend is over

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WestOffShore

Yeh, our conservative and/or fundamentalist friends have not seen this thread yet.

But I'll start.

I accept evo too. Also, I don't see why the conservative religious folks are so against it. If you really think about it, evolution doesn't really contradict a creation theory. That is, why can't God be behind all the processes of evolution? If he's omnipotent, ominprescient and omnipresent, then it can be argued that God has his hands in everything, including the mutation of cells.

I just don't know what drives them so crazy mad about evolution. Ignorance (not used perjoritively) about the details of the science I guess.

autoxCLS

I believe in Evolution - and I love driving it.

And I also believe in the theory.

I have a hard time believing God created fossil records, etc just to "fool" us. A Malevolant being doesn't do stuff like that IMHO. Evolution holds the possibility of God still creating everything - it was called the "Big Bang".

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IkeRay

i thought it was the bang-bus...

if he doesnt believe in evolution, do he believe in species adapting to their environment. that right there is a quality of evolution. if species didnt adapt, they wouldnt evolve, then you could say there was no evolution. but since we see species evolve to survive in their environment, then the theory of evolution is thus proven.

now where is the proof of intelligent design?

1990Legend_LS_5spd

Evolution believer here too. And who cant forget the classic family guy sketch ...

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Black_Panther

Its evolution baby!

rofl anyone who believes there is 'no evidence' of evolution probably doesn't believe in global warming either - both of these areas of science have strong opposition that makes up a lot of facts and propaganda to fight the truth. I wonder if your friend even understands the basic concept of birth control either.

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I wonder how well a Mitsu called the "Creation" would sell? Assuming, of course, that it's a good car. Wait, that's a lot to assume from Mitsu, forget it.

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ZedStyle

Personally, I believe in evolution too, but there are a lot more factors involved than saying 'we evolved from primates'. fossils exist, showing that those types of creatures existed millions of years ago, but there's actually no proof that they evolved into what exists today (i looked i up once when i was arguing with a guy who believed in creationism, so i had to stop arguing since i found no concrete proof). they havent found fossils showing gradual evolutionary changes, just distinctly different creatures at different points in time. Darwin himself said that that was a problem with his theory, and he hoped that in the future people would find proof of very subtle changes over time. we haven't found them yet, which is why it's called the 'theory' of evolution, and is not a 'law'. it's generally accepted to be true (by me too), but it hasn't been proven yet. it sounds more plausible than 'god made us', but it hasn't been proven, since fossils aren't currently proving that evolution happened, they just prove that millions of years ago different things existed.
if anything, to me, that makes macroevolution more probable, rather than microevolution, which is where it's assumed that there are tiny changes every few generations...
the Coelacanth has existed uncahged from before the time of dinosaurs, and still lives in the ocean unchanged... how come it didn't evolve when everything else in it's environment apparently did?
I believe in evolution, but i can see why your friend doesn't...

Darwin:

"If my theory be true, numberless intermediate varieties, linking most closely all of the species of the same group together must assuredly have existed... Consequently evidence of their former existence could be found only amongst fossil remains.

…Why, if species have descended from other species by fine gradations, do we not everywhere see innumerable transitional forms? Why is not all nature in confusion, instead of the species being, as we see them, well defined?… But, as by this theory innumerable transitional forms must have existed, why do we not find them embedded in countless numbers in the crust of the earth?… But in the intermediate region, having intermediate conditions of life, why do we not now find closely-linking intermediate varieties? This difficulty for a long time quite confounded me."

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Ahhhh...Punctuated Equillibrium. Tastey.

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IkeRay

that brings the point of survival of the fitest. we know that there were neanderthals, homo erectus (upright standing), etc; but what happened to them? well, as humans evolved, and learned new trades, it helped them survive, while the lesser species either was forced to follow the evolution or die off. it still happens today, and that is the basis of X-Men (the war anyways). Xavier wants to co-exist, while magneto feels that history shall continue to repeat and the evolved species kill of the less evolved. i know its a dumb reference, but it will help to understand it.

im sure over time, compassion was formed and that is what made us evolve together and not have linking steps in between.

^^if that doesnt make sense, i have been up since 5:30am, i cant sleep, and i am going into a state of insomnia. i will reread it when i have some sleep, if it sounds stupid then, i shall delete.