skate4volcom007

Okay, I would first like to say, that any help is good help.

So I have a few friends at school, we are 16/17. So they start smoking cigarettes every now and then, and now a few of them are addicted. So what happens when cigarettes dont give u the feel you are looking for? They turn to marijuana. So now they are smoking that, and pulling others in. I have friends who bet high every day before school. Now they are starting to get into the gasses. They are inhaling N02 (nitrous without sulfer) and getting the crazy feelings. Now, they just bought some mushrooms and are planning on eating them.

I dont know what to do. I have been friends with these guys for years, and I say I dont want a part of it and they are cool with that. I just dont want anyone to get injured, or die. I know there is always the possibility of getting help from an adult, but then I do not want the blame coming back to me for ratting them out. I have heard stories where a person ratted out others for a party, and their HS life was ruined completely.

If u know what I should do, please let me know. And if you are involved with any of this, please stop, cuz as you can see, it escalates very quickly.

 

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That's how a lot of my friends are here. I am a senior and have a lot going for me right now. I would try talking them out of getting into the drugs so deep. That's the first thing I would try. Then maybe they will stop with so many, limiting what they use. Just don't get really heated about it. And don't confront them while they are on their highs. That will make it that much worse. Hope things go alright for you.

drpharmgs

Wow...this is a tough one.. i personally didn't get involved w/ drugs till college..and thats where they stayed for me. i have seen countless people loose their motivation and stop caring and eventually not succeed in anything. plus i'm a pharmacist so i see drug addicts every day tryin to get their fix/drugs. its tough cuz your in HS and it maybe the "in" thing going on. you obviously have found other things to do...i.e. work on the legend. i would try to talk to them...but you can only do so much. as long as its weed/ and occasionally mushrooms i would chalk it up to experimenting...but anything else above then i would tell someone...just my thoughs..good luck..plus i took a "substance abuse" rotation for school and man..these people lost everything for drugs and did everything for them...so there is always that angle..good luck..scott

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skate4volcom007

Can anyone tell me anything about the N02 and mushrooms?

they said that u eat a half mushroom "to see purple elephants dancing" and if u eat 2, it will kill you.

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damn...that doesnt sound too fun...

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one of my best friends used to smoke weed. i am really against drugs of any kind and i told her that if she kept doing it i would not be friends with her anymore. our friendship meant more to her than drugs so she quit. she started focusing more on school and now realizes how stupid it was to start doing drugs in the first place.

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the next best thing... CALL THE COPS!!!!!

z00m

the pharmacist guy made me think about somethin that he didn't say directly but it is that maybe a new hobby could get their minds off of all of these drugs or something.. like he said you have the legend and you want to put the time they spent thinking about dancing daffadills towards ideas for the car as well as the cash they wasting on that stuff towards ur ideas.. i know a few people in my physical fitness classes that work out and are great runners and athletes but they smoke and i've heard them say before that they really need to quit smokin, they could be so much better in running and the endurance part of working out..

finding something that would cause ur friends to think the same thing would probably be the trick.. then again maybe a nice trip to have a convo with the school's guidance personel or school resource officer for advice could do the trick even better.. they have more training on these types of situations and it might just be the thing to go and do


good luck with ur situation man

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shroom's won't hurt you unless they are the wrong ones check out shrooms.com for fact's.Weed is tn's #1 cash crop i've seen it a lot of stoner's and recreational users .Some people it's a faze and they wise up and see it makes you LAZY!just hang in there and study hard and show them there's better stuff to buy out there than drug's................i've done it all and i turned out ok all i do now is have a beer when i get a chance .... ................DRUG FREE IN TENNESEE!!!!!!!!

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Mushrooms can kill, but not as exact as 2. Depends on the person entirely. I've done them before (years ago, not anymore)and it's a real physical high. The thing about them is that it's poison which is causing the euphoria and hallucinations. That's why many people that do them end up vomiting, the body tries to purge the system of poison. It's not for everyone, and given the situation your friends are in, the best thing to do is not get involved with it yourself. In whatever subtle way you can discourage their use, go for it. But sudden intervention has a real high backfire rate. It can actually worsen the situation. (I've been where your friends are now.) For them to say that things won't escalate it's like drawing lines in the sand. When I quit I had done just about every illicit drug except heroin, never messed with needles. But I had a nasty cocaine, crank, pot, acid, and perscription drug habit, and it left a mark on my day-to-day life, memory and cognitive capacity isn't what it used to be. The true recreational users are almost nonexistent given that 'experimentation' can be used as an excuse in any stage of addiction. I'm not saying don't care. But protect yourself first.

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skate4volcom007

Thanx for all the imput guys.

Anyone ever heard about the N02 thing?

marcdz1

about NO2, I've tried that once and as soon as I tried it, I felt like I could talk faster, walk faster, stronger and invisible it felt like I got drunk on the first inhale, what I noticed is that most people that do this, get stucked to the balloon,bag or whatever they are using to inhale like freaking glue and cant stop usually, its like the hit lasts like a few seconds or couple of minutes, it can stop your heart if used constantly or give some a heart attack and can kill, also for some reason I saw my friends laughing at anything for a long ass time (hours maybe) and then they started taking off their clothes "girls and guys" but they were tore up, I know it gets girls horny but I dont approve of this at all or any other drug not even smokes.
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Honestly? The drug culture in the US is very laid back and pretty much considered the "norm" of the coming of age process. To most of us, this is obviously BS, but people will always find an excuse to be stupid.

I've been down this road before where "friends" of mine were heavily into drugs. They continously begged me to hang around to help them quit, but they never put any of their own effort into kicking it. It got to the point where I was bailing them out from getting killed by dealers and a few others whom they pissed off; all because of drugs.

After about 6 months of living with them and their messed up routines of regular night long coke parties, dealers hanging out at our apt., pissed off people busting into the apt. threatening to cut everyone up, and a load of other bits of horse trail mix, I realised that there was nothing that I could do for them. It was all on them, and as much as I wanted to help them, they didn't want it enough.

I left for the summer with no intention of moving back in with them. Unfortunately, it was barely a month later that I found out that one of them ended up in a halfway house while the other landed up in jail for roaming the streets in nothing but a bath robe, high as a kite.

I felt guilty for leaving them when I found out, and for the longest time wondered if I should have stayed and continued to be their support. However, I came to accept the fact that had I stayed and tried to help them, nothing would have changed, and my life would be messed up by the distraction of baby sitting these guys (who were 5 and 12 years my senior).

I did all I could, but in the end, it was all in vain. They have to want to kick it, they have to do the work.

There is more to this story, but I'll leave it at this.

Bottom line is to do what you think needs to be done to nudge them toward quiting. It's on their shoulders at that point. If they insist on persisting, I suggest you turn and walk away. They choose to mess their own lives up; don't let them mess yours up too. I know that you care for them, but ultimately, you can't control what they do.

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I'd start by getting them some books or info off the net, or pamplets at CVS, some stuff about the effects of the drugs. A good book is "Marijuana Myths/Marijuana Facts", they debunk alot of the "anti-Marijuana" hysteria and tell you facts in an unbiased fashion.
You could just wait for weed to be legal in every state, that will take away some of the "fun" of doing something illegal, or at least get them to realize that most real drugs are not like Marijuana, alot of drugs are illegal for a good reason.

I've heard of people inhaling laughing gas(nitrous), and it does nothing but kill you fast, not instantly like an overdose or sumthin, but it kills the brain, period.

The 'Shrooms are not usually fatal, especially not one or two. I've never personally done mushrooms, but I've known people who have. The fatal part comes from eating other kinds of poison mushrooms being sold as the desirable poison mushrooms.
From what I've heard, you have to eat 1/8-1/4oz of them to get high, and you don't hallucinate from low doses, you just feel 'high'.

I wouldn't stop being friends with them though. If they become 'fiends' for the drugs you'll probably just 'grow apart' after a while.
I damn sure wouldn't call the cops, that would only make things worse for you and them, if they are friends then they know where you/your family live, and they won't get life in prison for a 1st offense drug case. Payback's a mutha. The only possible exception would be Heroin and Crack, in which case you'd be saving a life. You'd have to be crazy to try crack, and a suicidal pain-freak to try Heroin (you get horribly, horribly sick if you stop using once addicted).

Try to get them to see that they are the definition of the Gateway Theory, moving to harder and harder drugs once they get 'used to' the high from one drug.
I smoke weed sometimes, and my determination to avoid the Gateway(as well as my knowlege about real drugs) prevents me from 'moving on' to dangerous drugs. Some claim that weed is a harmful, but doctors disagree, as well as alot of Canadians, who voted to legalize. The prime minister or whatever they have in Ottawa has publicly announced his intentions to smoke Marijuana when he leaves office.
But, in the end, its completely up to them. I wouldn't blame myself if I gave them the info and they choose not to care. As long as the info is correct, then you've done all you can as a friend.

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DO NOT CALL THE COPS...they're gonna do nothing but **** up the situation (no offense to our men in blue) because they have to carry out the law, which dictates that they arrest your friends.


other than that, pot isn't as bad as a lot of people here seem to think it is. Most kids in high school go to school high. I did, I smoked almost every day, and I still pulled a 3.9, a 1480 on my SAT, and am in college (and smoking a hell of a lot less). they key is just knowing when you can and can't do it.

Mushrooms, nothing really wrong with a littel expirementation there, as long as it doesn't escalate. And the thing about 1 mushroom making you see purple elephants, 2 killing you is bull****. Its actually pretty hard to OD on shrooms, I've had friends who've done a quarter ounce and been fine (most people do a 1/16 to an 1/8 of an ounce). It all depends on the person. Its only when people do it a lot does it become a problem.

Doing nitrous is just plain stupid, but its another thing that a lot of people seem to expirement with in high school and college.


You just have to understand that this is a normal thing for teenagers to do. I'm not saying its good, but it doesn't appear to be too out of control as of yet. Its when they start to need the drugs, when it takes away from other things, when they neglect friends, family, school, hobbies, etc. so that they can get high, then it becomes a problem.

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