HELP! What is this antique gun worth??!! I NEED TO KNOW FAST!!

guyad · 05-10-08, 11:14 AM

A guy i know has this antique gun that he's about to sell in a yard sale and we have NO clue what it's worth. It's a 1871 Hopkins and Allen XL NO.3 5 shot revolver. I've been looking around online and found others similar that are worth well over a grand. I haven't found the exact one i have here though.. this is what it looks like.

Anybody that knows anything about antique guns PLEASE respond ASAP and let me know what this thing is worth.

guyad · 05-10-08, 11:22 AM

BUMP! Anyone know anything about this before this guy sells it dirt cheap

WhtCastle · 05-10-08, 11:44 AM

I came across this answer, someone asking something similar:

Coy- Hopkins and Allen made inexpensive handguns under a variety of names (both their own, and "trade names" for various retailers) in Norwich, Conn. beginning about 1867. The XL series (numbers 1 through 8) were most common in the 1870s and 1880s. The model number was related to the caliber, but I could not find precise identification of the "No. 3" but suspect it was probably .32 or .38 rimfire. Good vest pocket guns or to keep by the bed for shooting burglars, wild animals or wild people. Certainly not expensive guns, but comparable the inexpensive guns many people buy for protection now. Little collector interest, but a wonderful family heirloom. I hope you can pass it on to your grandchildren.

Aug 1997 Questions And Answers

Kinda hard to find info on the no.3 it would appear. Best of luck to you....

guyad · 05-10-08, 11:51 AM

yeah..it isn't mine..it's my buddies..he was gonna sell it in a yard sale but told me if i wanted it i could make him an offer on it. I wasn't sure what to give him, but if it isn't worth anything i was gonna let him sell it off...if it's worth somethin then i was gonna buy it and hang on to it for a while then maybe sell it....i can't find it anymore but i just located a antique gun forum where a guy was asking about the same one...apparently depending on the shape of the gun they are worth between 55 and $160

ZrenutAruca · 05-10-08, 11:57 AM

I would make the offer between $100-$160 because as old as that gun is and what it is it isn't going to be as low as $50 IMO, go for it, if its worth nothing you have a nice toy to play with! Who can say that they have a 1871 revolver to shoot?

dasficktauf · 05-10-08, 11:59 AM

offer him ten bucks. i'd pay ten just to put that sucker in a frame

ATLfoKuS · 05-10-08, 05:25 PM

I'd laugh at anyone who pointed that thing at me...

and then I'd be dead

GrumpySteelMan · 05-10-08, 08:39 PM

Shit if I point a gun at you, and you laugh, I might change my mind.

guyad · 05-11-08, 01:38 AM

I ended up giving it back to him and telling him what i was able to find online. I told him if he could get something out of it then go ahead and sell it, if not then i'd take it off his hands. I think something is wrong with it though b/c when you squeeze the trigger the chamber is suppose to spin and it doesn't for some reason.

GrumpySteelMan · 05-11-08, 01:51 AM

Are you sure it isn't a single action that requires thumb-cocking each time?

guyad · 05-11-08, 03:35 AM

I believe it is a single shot, but when you cock it, the chamber is suppose to rotate, and it doesn't.

GrumpySteelMan · 05-11-08, 03:37 AM

Well then I'd say it's shit.

guyad · 05-11-08, 03:40 AM

yeah, that's what i was thinking...if someone that knows how to work on them buys it, then it'd be fine..i don't know shit about fixing guns..especially one made in 1871

GrumpySteelMan · 05-11-08, 03:43 AM

I'm sure they're all broken that have been used at all.

brynosaur · 05-11-08, 04:35 PM

save it and use it for "that one time" when you need to kill someone and get away with it. those guns were never registered. fat chance any ballistics guy is gonna figure anything out except "this a really unusual gun"

thats worth well over a grand itself...

05-10-08, 11:14 AM	#1 (permalink)
guyad Aguy Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Leesburg, Florida Posts: 1,040 Car 1: 92 LS coupe 5spd Car 2: 04 Silverado Z71 Car 3: 88 Lcoupe (sold) iTrader: (2)	HELP! What is this antique gun worth??!! I NEED TO KNOW FAST!! A guy i know has this antique gun that he's about to sell in a yard sale and we have NO clue what it's worth. It's a 1871 Hopkins and Allen XL NO.3 5 shot revolver. I've been looking around online and found others similar that are worth well over a grand. I haven't found the exact one i have here though.. this is what it looks like. Anybody that knows anything about antique guns PLEASE respond ASAP and let me know what this thing is worth. __________________ http://i112.photobucket.com/albums/n...92/truck-1.jpg

05-10-08, 11:22 AM	#2 (permalink)
guyad Aguy Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Leesburg, Florida Posts: 1,040 Car 1: 92 LS coupe 5spd Car 2: 04 Silverado Z71 Car 3: 88 Lcoupe (sold) iTrader: (2)	BUMP! Anyone know anything about this before this guy sells it dirt cheap __________________ http://i112.photobucket.com/albums/n...92/truck-1.jpg

05-10-08, 11:51 AM	#4 (permalink)
guyad Aguy Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Leesburg, Florida Posts: 1,040 Car 1: 92 LS coupe 5spd Car 2: 04 Silverado Z71 Car 3: 88 Lcoupe (sold) iTrader: (2)	yeah..it isn't mine..it's my buddies..he was gonna sell it in a yard sale but told me if i wanted it i could make him an offer on it. I wasn't sure what to give him, but if it isn't worth anything i was gonna let him sell it off...if it's worth somethin then i was gonna buy it and hang on to it for a while then maybe sell it....i can't find it anymore but i just located a antique gun forum where a guy was asking about the same one...apparently depending on the shape of the gun they are worth between 55 and $160 __________________ http://i112.photobucket.com/albums/n...92/truck-1.jpg

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dasficktauf Registered User Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Simi Valley, CA Posts: 869 Car 1: 1992 ka7 auto with 250k miles Car 2: 1985 nissan sentra iTrader: (1)	offer him ten bucks. i'd pay ten just to put that sucker in a frame __________________ Multi-Forum Huntington Beach Meet Aug. 23 www.myspace.com/californiakillz

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ATLfoKuS Conflicted Felon Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Atlanta Posts: 2,804 Car 1: kA8 iTrader: (9)	I'd laugh at anyone who pointed that thing at me... and then I'd be dead __________________

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05-10-08, 11:44 AM	#3 (permalink)
WhtCastle What you crave. Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Utah Posts: 565 Car 1: 1990 Acura Legend LS Coupe 5-Speed, 2001 Jeep Grand Cherokee Limited iTrader: (0)	I came across this answer, someone asking something similar: Coy- Hopkins and Allen made inexpensive handguns under a variety of names (both their own, and "trade names" for various retailers) in Norwich, Conn. beginning about 1867. The XL series (numbers 1 through 8) were most common in the 1870s and 1880s. The model number was related to the caliber, but I could not find precise identification of the "No. 3" but suspect it was probably .32 or .38 rimfire. Good vest pocket guns or to keep by the bed for shooting burglars, wild animals or wild people. Certainly not expensive guns, but comparable the inexpensive guns many people buy for protection now. Little collector interest, but a wonderful family heirloom. I hope you can pass it on to your grandchildren. Aug 1997 Questions And Answers Kinda hard to find info on the no.3 it would appear. Best of luck to you....

05-11-08, 01:38 AM	#9 (permalink)
guyad Aguy Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Leesburg, Florida Posts: 1,040 Car 1: 92 LS coupe 5spd Car 2: 04 Silverado Z71 Car 3: 88 Lcoupe (sold) iTrader: (2)	I ended up giving it back to him and telling him what i was able to find online. I told him if he could get something out of it then go ahead and sell it, if not then i'd take it off his hands. I think something is wrong with it though b/c when you squeeze the trigger the chamber is suppose to spin and it doesn't for some reason. __________________ http://i112.photobucket.com/albums/n...92/truck-1.jpg

05-11-08, 03:35 AM	#11 (permalink)
guyad Aguy Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Leesburg, Florida Posts: 1,040 Car 1: 92 LS coupe 5spd Car 2: 04 Silverado Z71 Car 3: 88 Lcoupe (sold) iTrader: (2)	I believe it is a single shot, but when you cock it, the chamber is suppose to rotate, and it doesn't. __________________ http://i112.photobucket.com/albums/n...92/truck-1.jpg

05-11-08, 03:40 AM	#13 (permalink)
guyad Aguy Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Leesburg, Florida Posts: 1,040 Car 1: 92 LS coupe 5spd Car 2: 04 Silverado Z71 Car 3: 88 Lcoupe (sold) iTrader: (2)	yeah, that's what i was thinking...if someone that knows how to work on them buys it, then it'd be fine..i don't know shit about fixing guns..especially one made in 1871 __________________ http://i112.photobucket.com/albums/n...92/truck-1.jpg

05-11-08, 04:35 PM	#15 (permalink)
brynosaur difficult to kill Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: sacto Posts: 678 Car 1: 1995 L coupe iTrader: (1)	save it and use it for "that one time" when you need to kill someone and get away with it. those guns were never registered. fat chance any ballistics guy is gonna figure anything out except "this a really unusual gun" thats worth well over a grand itself... __________________ www.myspace.com/thebestbryan BHG free since 2003 95 L coupe 4AT in cashmere silver 60a urethane mounts FL tie bars (newly installed) sr5guy stage III ecu GB Xdrilled/slotted front n rear rebuilt top end (~15k on it so far) weapon r

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