stevieray

Kev, you and Mike are Americans at heart. You just weren't born here, that's all.

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"Know this. Being able to purchase a Legend and being able to afford a Legend are two separate things. Realize nothing post-purchase is cheap." - LegendGS

 

Dethred

See I envy you guys. After living in the oldest state in the country all my life I'd rather live in a different country. :p I am not saying you're anything but right when it comes to your desire to live here, but I do have to tell you that every person I know that lived in the U.S. for a few decades and then moved to Germany actually liked Germany better. I guess it all depends on the person. Above all I think its the desire for something new.

I say you guys move over here if you lose reason to be in Germany, but I wouldn't close all ties until you've been over here and had to avoid dark alleyways and car thefts.

enigma

glad you are not pissed anymore

MikeD

Tom, our taxes are basically value added taxes, aka sales tax. The value added tax paid by all private final customers. Here are all type of taxes we have to pay (except several), like...

Einkommenssteuer: Income Tax. Means that what you get (earn) mothly we have to pay the almost the half. I get 2500€ br ./. 1200 Tax !
Vermögenssteuer: Wealth Tax (only for owners of houses, companies...)
Gewinn & Kapitalsteuer: Profit and Pincipal Taxes (? %)
Kirchensteuer: Church Tax (3 %). I must pay 26 €
Grundstücksgewinnsteuer: Property Pofits Tax (only for owners of houses, companies...) (? %)
Erbschaftssteuer: Inheritance Tax (35%)
Verrechnungssteuer: Accounting Tax (5%)
Liegenschaftssteuer: Real Estate Property Tax (only for owners of houses, companies...) (? %)
Personal, Haushaltssteuer: Personal, Household Tax (10%)
Zollsteuer: Customs Clearance Tax (10%)
Tabaksteuer: Tobacco Tax (70%)
Biersteuer: Beer Tax (5%)
Mineralölsteuer: Oil Tax (50%)
Beninsteuer: Gas Tax (70%)
Automobilsteuer: Car Tax (5%)
Spirituosensteuer: Liquor Tax (8%)
Motorfahrzeugssteuer: Motor Vehicle Tax (Extreme high !!! Depending of the liter capacity, like 3.2l. The higher the more we have to pay)
Hundesteuer: Dog Tax (5%)
Vergnügungssteuer: Entertainment Tax (10%)
Reklamesteuer: Advertisement Tax (only for business) (? %)
Lottosteuer: Lotto Tax (If the winner win, then he have to pay 20% of his profit)

Please don´t forget that: Every one have to pay the taxes !!! And all taxes get the f.cking goverment!!!

So please never ask me what I have of netto remaining amount for me to the end of every month! We have to hard work of our bucks here ! Our goverment becomes always enrich and enrich. He throw out our bucks for such insane things like to support more foreigner who are jobless and get money for nothing. Due to that more and more foreigner are coming to Germany the result is, that germany burst out. Since 1989 the wall between east and east Germany has been fallen (you remember that the US president R. Regean was in Berlin at that time?). He got it to create his great thought and realized that dream for so many peoples in east Germany. But no one thought at that time: It was the greatest mistake for us all here. No no, it was not the debt of Mr. Regean. Our politician were guilty !!! They spends so much bucks into the reconstruction of east Germany. And til today (since 10 years) every German has to pay a fraction part (small amount of 10€) every month. It´s called 'Social Contributions'. Everyone say, that the wall should be rebuild immediately. The new wall has to rebuild higher than the old one, much highter. It sounds terrible but that´s the truth.

Now you can understand why we all are here kinda f.cked up here, why we all have no jobs here (almost 7% of 80 millions), why we all are so annoyed about our beloved bro's in east Germany . They have broked our neck. That´s not Germany - it´s the f.ucking Germany. On almost every week we hear or read, that this and this is more expensive. Our gas is soo expensive here. It varies from day to day, like a nightmare.
Now you know why I hate that land and why I hate the f.ucking politicians, esp the f.ucking chancellor. No one is able to lead that in a right way, a way where we all are can live kinda satisfied. But perhaps it´s only possible in the USA !

Just wanted to vent and to tell you the truth. The truth about the F.UCKING DAMN GERMANY! I hope you can understand me why I feel (and Kevin too) sometimes really bad. -Mike

enigma

look at those taxes... even DOGS get taxed (5%)?!??! Personal, Household Tax (10%)!?!?!Church Tax (3 %)!?!?!?Gas Tax (70%)!!!!!!!!!!!!!! WTH!?

do you have to pay those taxes every year?

MikeD

Auhhh, man Kevin. That the best I have ever read. Touch'e. Well said, you spoke me from the soul. And believe me... You´re by fare not stupid. I have the same opinion like you! Vote for Kevin!!! -Mike

BTW: Hör mal Deinen AB ab. Hab mehrmals drauf gesprochen, ok? -Mike

KeithQNguyen

Well that settles it, if i lived in germany I'd be dirt poor.... Cross that off as a place for me to live! --=Keith

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MikeD

Yes Tom, every year and every month we have to pay that! Always ! -Mike

MikeD

Ooh sorry about that stupid say, Cole. But sometimes I feel... naah, it´s ok. Did you ask Mike D about your EDM Valve Covers? They lie behind his desk in his office. Please keep me updated and post some pics, ok? -Mike

stevieray

Ryan, the problem is that you are one state over from DaveC and you get grump vibes from him. You know those are transmitted across state lines, don't you?

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"King of Kleen"

"Know this. Being able to purchase a Legend and being able to afford a Legend are two separate things. Realize nothing post-purchase is cheap." - LegendGS

enigma

how can you live there with all those taxes!?

MikeD

Oh man. Sorry Steve, but sometimes I feel bad if I hear something about Germany and bucks, taxes and so much more. Sometimes it ticks me off, really. Thank you so much about your kind words. It´s really good to read that. Thanks bro ! -Mike

Ohhh YES YES YES. The best meeting ever. Can´t wait til Nopi '05.

BTW: Steve, please PM me your complete home address, bc I forgot to give you something what I promised you. You remember? I will send you a parcel. So I need your home address. Is that possible? -Mike

enigma

it's hard to make and save money after those taxes...

MikeD

It´s the f.cking damn sh.t law. Now you know why Michael Schuhmacher or Boris Becker are gone out of Germany !!! All countries out of Germany are the true paradises. No doubt, it´s true, so true like the 'Amen' in the church. -Mike

enigma

would it be difficult to look for job in the US while you are in Germany?