Insight on the "nice guy" - Page 5

Stratoknight · 02-13-04, 02:13 PM

I dunno. I have always been against the "pimp" status. I never liked being called a pimp or anything to that sort. I guess I have too many morals and respect for women? I don't know. I am not the cold hearted kind of person. I usually cannot refer to a girl in a mean/vulgar way. I try to uphold values of a gentleman. From what I read girls aren't into that stuff:p I do it because I like those values plus there aren't very many people left that are like me...

WhenHeartsRunDry · 02-13-04, 03:31 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Stratoknight
I dunno. I have always been against the "pimp" status. I never liked being called a pimp or anything to that sort. I guess I have too many morals and respect for women? I don't know. I am not the cold hearted kind of person. I usually cannot refer to a girl in a mean/vulgar way. I try to uphold values of a gentleman. From what I read girls aren't into that stuff:p I do it because I like those values plus there aren't very many people left that are like me...

Jay-Z said it best.

"plus she can't front just peep how I run mines
ma, our time together is our time together, and uh
our time apart is our time apart
so love Jay with your mind girl and not your heart
and some day I slow down, but for now I get around
like the late Makiavelli or Perelli twenty inches"

"I'm not a one girl's guy, and they know it
when it comes to love, I don't lie, and the girls respect me for it
aint gonna say my nose? can't be over,
but right now it's just too many fine ladies out there to choose one from
I'm tryin girls out, waiting patiently,
just tryin girls out, until I find the one for me"

90Legendman(LS) · 02-14-04, 12:52 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by WhenHeartsRunDry
Jay-Z said it best.

"plus she can't front just peep how I run mines
ma, our time together is our time together, and uh
our time apart is our time apart
so love Jay with your mind girl and not your heart
and some day I slow down, but for now I get around
like the late Makiavelli or Perelli twenty inches"

"I'm not a one girl's guy, and they know it
when it comes to love, I don't lie, and the girls respect me for it
aint gonna say my nose? can't be over,
but right now it's just too many fine ladies out there to choose one from
I'm tryin girls out, waiting patiently,
just tryin girls out, until I find the one for me"

WHAT TRACK IS THAT FROM !!

**B+O** · 02-14-04, 03:43 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Stratoknight
I dunno. I have always been against the "pimp" status. I never liked being called a pimp or anything to that sort. I guess I have too many morals and respect for women? I don't know. I am not the cold hearted kind of person. I usually cannot refer to a girl in a mean/vulgar way. I try to uphold values of a gentleman. From what I read girls aren't into that stuff:p I do it because I like those values plus there aren't very many people left that are like me...

-_-

you'll learn...i got 5 on it yugi is going to be the BIGGEST pimp/playa one day...that one girl is gonna crush his heart and then it's gonna be ON like apot of neck bones. Girls are trecherous too...just like guys...dont get it twisted

*Avarice* · 02-14-04, 04:34 AM

The more you treat a girl like crap the more they want to be with you....believe me its sad but true...

spclv · 02-14-04, 09:54 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Avarice
The more you treat a girl like crap the more they want to be with you....believe me its sad but true...

well i try to be a nice guy but sometimes its hard. girls can be irritating no matter how beautiful they are. so when that happens the asshole comes out. me and my girl treated each other like the last few months that we were together. i know she loves the bad boy, but she left me for some dork/nice guy. i feel sorry for this guy cause he is not her type and he will get his heart crushed when she leaves. the point is girls can be very cruel. its not worth the heart ache to be nice just to please them. they love the bad boy.

Stratoknight · 02-14-04, 03:52 PM

You guys are a bad influence!

EvilPrincess22 · 02-14-04, 11:17 PM

well i must say..
reading the first post that started this all...as long as it was...I have drawn some conclusions.
First of all, if you are TRULY a nice guy, you aren't just trying to get into a chicks pants.
Yes guys have needs, but if thats your one and only goal in your "being nice" little do you know but you are that asshole in disguise and you dont even know it!
Second, not every girl goes for the asshole. I've played that game more than once and now when I find out this person led me to believe they are not who they really are...I dump them. Its that easy.
I rationalize it down to this: If you can't be yourself, then I dont get to know the real you. If I dont know the real you, I dont know you at all. If you hide its because you have something to hide. And the risk just isnt worth it. Personally I want to KNOW my boyfriend. Not pretend I do.
Thirdly, some girls are assholes too. Probably some of you men have been burned. Heck who hasnt right?
My advice is to keep your head up and dont be blinded by some hot thang that you wanna screw and end up rushing into something before you know what this persons really about.
Thats where guys make their mistake. If you are really that nice guy, you'll want to know her better first anyhow. The more you know, the better equipt you are to make a decision on whether she is real or not. Time is your friend not your enemy...
and if during that time she runs off with an asshole...shes not at a point in her life when she can SEE a person for their true worth, and your better off anyhow. Shed probably end up taking advantage of you anyway.
If shes a good person, she'll see you for a good person.

So keep hope all you nice guys ....

RR

**B+O** · 02-15-04, 12:59 AM

nice write up EvilPrincess...that was the answer most of us were probably looking for.and it gives hope to many

and you make good point EvilPrincess. if you are just trying ot get some...it's kinda not even worth it to go that route. i mean even recently i just found out that by llistening this extraordinarily cute chick i was talkin to...may not be the one for me

. i dont know if we have much in common, and it would be justa bunch of heartache if i decided ot pursue it:-/

i just heard something EXTRAORDIANRILY interesting.

i was talkin with some friends of mine about this whole thing...he said EVERY human has a need to create technology (tools to make life easier) or to upgrade/make better whatever they have.

Guys, take acount of what you do. Guys like to fix things...Beit cars, computers,or bikes. We like to make them better, faster, stronger, more reliable.

Most Girls, take account of what you do. Girls like to fix people....Beit herself, her friends, or her mate. She would lke to make them better looking, nicer, and more reliable.

Guys we look for pretty well based platforms to start building on. i for one like building on a pretty good chassis that needs just a bit here and a bit there to make it worth while. Take the legend for example. i love this car it's a pretty well rounded car, interms of a female i look for the human incarnations of the same qualities. She has to be subtle unassuming and a just down right a sweetheart, not easy to make angry but a monster once there. Basically i would like to make a Luxury sports sedan just a lil quicker footed and a little more powerful.

Those girls, you are the quintessencial guy in this case..you want a bare bones race car and want to add full leather interior CDplayer and all the fixin's...not gonna happen. most times they walk past all the lil luxury coupes/sedans (nice guys-though some guys with a lil more back bone get the denomination sport-luxury

) in order to get there. they run to get in these race cars and beat their backs up from the brutal ride. have constant headaches from the lack of sound deadening, but they continuely want to take this abuse cause they think it's what they need to feel good. when you get to time to breathe you go back and jump at the sports luxury cars never really wanting to drive it...just thinking how you race car would be awesome with those traits in it. you look at it and kep dreamin all the while just NOT getting the fact that you can make that Luxury/sports car VERY fast, VERY mean and STILL have it's traits of opulence.

i ounno...im a true to life gear head and i can equate everything with cars

i found out recently that old habits die hard...i'm a diehard nice guy

i cant help but listen to someone when they get excited/upset.

FF Drifter · 02-15-04, 12:30 PM

There's nothing wrong with being a "diehard nice guy." Problems only arise when you start aspiring to be more than that. I was "the nice guy" for pretty much my entire life and I honestly had no problems with it.

Don't be so concerned with falling in love or being in a relationship. As a nice guy, your role is to be there for the girl whenever she needs you. Let her sort out her problems through you or just spend time with you to get away from whatever punk guy she is with. It can be sad sometimes because you still feel "alone" but think of the good sides:

You aren't tied down either. You aren't committed to this confused female and you're not held accountable if she sees you spending time with someone else. You've got a casual friendship with a few extra perks, mebbe you two go way back, mebbe you know her better than her other friends do, etc. The beauty in this is that you know how best to cheer her up when she needs you the most: when she finally gets rid of said punk boyfriend.

I'm not saying you should let her walk all over you or use you as rebound fodder ~ but be true to yourself and be true to her and you may find yourself the object of her affections too. "It's all about the girl."

My story: I was the nice guy and grew up only around girls until about... thirteen? So I had trouble getting across to a girl I was interested in her and not just in being friends with her ~ but that was really fine by me because being friends still meant a lot to me. Anyways I move here to SoCal and became really really close to a friend's girlfriend (Yuka, see pic below

. I have an easier time befriending girls than guys ~ so that's what happened. I was just always there whenever she needed me, on/off for over a year. I expected nothing of it, but after Yuka broke up with him, she and I became even closer and that's where we've been for the past four years. Best friends with some serious perks.

Nice guys don't always finish last.

Stratoknight · 02-15-04, 05:08 PM

Robyn - That is a good piece of writing you have there. It makes a lot of sense. About getting into a girls pants. That isn't what I am after. I actually intend to wait until marriage if I have enough will power.

Ivan - Lovin' those analogies. I still don't agree 100% with what you say but its good stuff.

FF Drifter - You've got valid points. I do feel alone often but I do enjoy that I don't have another commitment. Lets hope I am lucky as you:p

WhenHeartsRunDry · 02-15-04, 07:10 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by 88legendman
WHAT TRACK IS THAT FROM !!

That track is off of Jay-Z's Blueprint album. Its on the last track, you gotta skip all the way to 7:50. Its the girls girls girls remix

EvilPrincess22 · 02-16-04, 12:05 AM

Strato....
I understand where your coming from. You mentioned earlier in this thread how you see a girl,, then you like her, then time goes by and you find someone else to like.
personally Id take that as a sign more than a problem cycle. If she cant hold your attention, you're better off without her.
You also mentioned about how you're looking for a "clean livin girl". There arent too many left if your looking for someone who doesnt touch a drink or smoke, party etc.
Perhaps you should think of envolving yourself in activities or going places that support that kinda life style.
Example, if you're looking for someone whos fit, join a gym.
Know what I mean?
It sounds to me that you're looking for someone very special and unique that doesnt conform to the normal social standards and trends of today....not that there is anything wrong with people who do.
Its just harder to find.
I know one thing...this person will come when you least expect it. And from my experience, they never show up when you're thinking about it or concentrating on it.
Live your life and focus on other details right now. Everything else will just fall into place.
For instance, when I fitness train people I tell them not to focus on their body fat or their image more so then on what they can do to make themselves healthier.
Dont eat that cheeseburger because of the saturated fat thats going to clog their arteries...rather than focusing on the 50-60 grams of fat in it that might go to their butt. Soon they find themselves more concerned about getting their daily intake of vitamins and minerals and eating to fuel the body....before they know it they've lost 10lbs or more. They failed at their previous attempts of weight loss because they focused on their weight/image which led them to feel depressed and end up binging on junk food...this only sabotoged any hard work and honest effort, warping their views on health and fitness.
Its just changing your perspective. It doesnt change the result. It only changes your attitude towards how to get the result.
I know the time of the year doesnt help much. However, I used to feel the way you do. But then I made a conscious decision to become one of those people who focus on my life, my career etc. The things I CAN control.
Im 22 and just spent my first Valentines NOT single! I think back to the previous years and how sad and depressed I got about the holiday...Infact I cursed it to the ground and thought it was so stupid and commercial.
But that just made my first valentines that much more special...and I will NEVER forget it.
Not to mention I spent it with someone who is all I've ever dreamed of and showed up in my life unexpectedly.
Just remember: Special people are hard to find but thats what make them so special.

kingsnakelegend · 02-19-04, 12:44 AM

Getting girls is like trying to merge into traffic. Find an opening, signal, then make your move. Make sure you signal, or else you'll cause an accident. If there's no space to get in, you just gotta be the asshole sometimes and force one open. I mean, we drive legends after all, put that C32 to good use. If that other car doesn't let you in, then you let it pass you up and wait for another opportunity to merge. Check the blind spot too, make sure you're clear. I don't know if I'm making any sense, but I've been traveling on the same path for such a long time. Every time I try to change lanes and merge, I get blocked off and end up back where I am. I guess I'll just cruise along until I find someone. The chick in my sig is what's got me all torn up inside.

johndftc · 02-19-04, 01:39 AM

Wow there a lot of good/smart/honest posts in this thread. I used to be that "nice guy" that kept getting walked over until one day my "best friend" hooked up with this girl i liked. that changed my entire outlook on life. I started not caring about trying to please anyone, and ended up becoming a much happier person. Plus Girls started coming to me!

like its been stated a million times, just stand up for yourself and be yourself. If a girl doesn't like you, f it. shes not meant for you and you wouldnt be happy with her.

But I have to add something in this issue. Guys that are your friends and become "whipped." For instance, There were about 5 of us hanging out at my buddy's house playin pool and watching the avalanche game, drinkin a fe beers and what not. just havin fun you know? well one of the guys that lived there was like "uuhhhh i got a headache, i'm gonna go to the store and get some advil" we had tylenol and advil there, but he still insisted on going to "the store". Well sure enough he calls 10 minute later "sorry guys i stopped by gf's to get a 'neck rub". ditching us AND he was my ride home that night since i was drinking. Man we let him have it. We have all been his friends for years and night after night, he just blows us off to go be attached at the hip to this damn girl. I'm not biased either, because i got a gf too. We love each other, and dont' need to blow off our friends to feel better about ourselves. I just dont see why lifelong friends get tossed aside to do whatever your girlfirend says.

02-13-04, 02:13 PM	#61 (permalink)
Stratoknight Yúgí Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Lakewood WA Posts: 1,736 Car 1: 1991 Black Sedan iTrader: (0)	I dunno. I have always been against the "pimp" status. I never liked being called a pimp or anything to that sort. I guess I have too many morals and respect for women? I don't know. I am not the cold hearted kind of person. I usually cannot refer to a girl in a mean/vulgar way. I try to uphold values of a gentleman. From what I read girls aren't into that stuff:p I do it because I like those values plus there aren't very many people left that are like me... __________________ Miss Greek in support of Fred Hutching Cancer Research Center University of Washington Delts Stage6 Acura Legend Channel

02-14-04, 04:34 AM	#65 (permalink)
Avarice Moderator Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: New York City Posts: 2,876 Car 1: 2001 VW Jetta 1.8T WE Car 2: 2002 Honda S2000 iTrader: (0)	The more you treat a girl like crap the more they want to be with you....believe me its sad but true... __________________ [img] My 1991 Legend (SOLD) http://users.erols.com/annsu/newleg.jpg[/img] Contact me if you need the following: HELM Factory Shop/Electrical Manual Sedan Type-F floor mats Driver Side seat Yakima Roof Mount and Bike Rack Set

02-14-04, 03:52 PM	#67 (permalink)
Stratoknight Yúgí Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Lakewood WA Posts: 1,736 Car 1: 1991 Black Sedan iTrader: (0)	You guys are a bad influence! __________________ Miss Greek in support of Fred Hutching Cancer Research Center University of Washington Delts Stage6 Acura Legend Channel

02-14-04, 11:17 PM	#68 (permalink)
EvilPrincess22 Registered User Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Canada Posts: 179 Car 1: 1991 Black LS coupe iTrader: (0)	well i must say.. reading the first post that started this all...as long as it was...I have drawn some conclusions. First of all, if you are TRULY a nice guy, you aren't just trying to get into a chicks pants. Yes guys have needs, but if thats your one and only goal in your "being nice" little do you know but you are that asshole in disguise and you dont even know it! Second, not every girl goes for the asshole. I've played that game more than once and now when I find out this person led me to believe they are not who they really are...I dump them. Its that easy. I rationalize it down to this: If you can't be yourself, then I dont get to know the real you. If I dont know the real you, I dont know you at all. If you hide its because you have something to hide. And the risk just isnt worth it. Personally I want to KNOW my boyfriend. Not pretend I do. Thirdly, some girls are assholes too. Probably some of you men have been burned. Heck who hasnt right? My advice is to keep your head up and dont be blinded by some hot thang that you wanna screw and end up rushing into something before you know what this persons really about. Thats where guys make their mistake. If you are really that nice guy, you'll want to know her better first anyhow. The more you know, the better equipt you are to make a decision on whether she is real or not. Time is your friend not your enemy... and if during that time she runs off with an asshole...shes not at a point in her life when she can SEE a person for their true worth, and your better off anyhow. Shed probably end up taking advantage of you anyway. If shes a good person, she'll see you for a good person. So keep hope all you nice guys .... RR __________________ http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e2...macyChick1.jpg

02-15-04, 12:59 AM	#69 (permalink)
B+O G2BMC Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: VSC Moderator Posts: 12,089 Car 1: why? iTrader: (1)	nice write up EvilPrincess...that was the answer most of us were probably looking for.and it gives hope to many and you make good point EvilPrincess. if you are just trying ot get some...it's kinda not even worth it to go that route. i mean even recently i just found out that by llistening this extraordinarily cute chick i was talkin to...may not be the one for me. i dont know if we have much in common, and it would be justa bunch of heartache if i decided ot pursue it:-/ i just heard something EXTRAORDIANRILY interesting. i was talkin with some friends of mine about this whole thing...he said EVERY human has a need to create technology (tools to make life easier) or to upgrade/make better whatever they have. Guys, take acount of what you do. Guys like to fix things...Beit cars, computers,or bikes. We like to make them better, faster, stronger, more reliable. Most Girls, take account of what you do. Girls like to fix people....Beit herself, her friends, or her mate. She would lke to make them better looking, nicer, and more reliable. Guys we look for pretty well based platforms to start building on. i for one like building on a pretty good chassis that needs just a bit here and a bit there to make it worth while. Take the legend for example. i love this car it's a pretty well rounded car, interms of a female i look for the human incarnations of the same qualities. She has to be subtle unassuming and a just down right a sweetheart, not easy to make angry but a monster once there. Basically i would like to make a Luxury sports sedan just a lil quicker footed and a little more powerful. Those girls, you are the quintessencial guy in this case..you want a bare bones race car and want to add full leather interior CDplayer and all the fixin's...not gonna happen. most times they walk past all the lil luxury coupes/sedans (nice guys-though some guys with a lil more back bone get the denomination sport-luxury) in order to get there. they run to get in these race cars and beat their backs up from the brutal ride. have constant headaches from the lack of sound deadening, but they continuely want to take this abuse cause they think it's what they need to feel good. when you get to time to breathe you go back and jump at the sports luxury cars never really wanting to drive it...just thinking how you race car would be awesome with those traits in it. you look at it and kep dreamin all the while just NOT getting the fact that you can make that Luxury/sports car VERY fast, VERY mean and STILL have it's traits of opulence. i ounno...im a true to life gear head and i can equate everything with cars i found out recently that old habits die hard...i'm a diehard nice guy i cant help but listen to someone when they get excited/upset. __________________ "Untainted by Concept of Limitation" -BozzSpeed -Reiko my baby -The MAIN person Thank you Leon. Your words help God said it, and it was so. Forum Rules *flossin,* breakin off the intersection crossin RL'in, ackin a iz-ass on them bosses

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02-15-04, 12:30 PM	#70 (permalink)
FF Drifter It's stock, really. Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Atlanta, GA Posts: 2,868 Car 1: KA7 Legend sedan, 5 speed manual iTrader: (1)	There's nothing wrong with being a "diehard nice guy." Problems only arise when you start aspiring to be more than that. I was "the nice guy" for pretty much my entire life and I honestly had no problems with it. Don't be so concerned with falling in love or being in a relationship. As a nice guy, your role is to be there for the girl whenever she needs you. Let her sort out her problems through you or just spend time with you to get away from whatever punk guy she is with. It can be sad sometimes because you still feel "alone" but think of the good sides: You aren't tied down either. You aren't committed to this confused female and you're not held accountable if she sees you spending time with someone else. You've got a casual friendship with a few extra perks, mebbe you two go way back, mebbe you know her better than her other friends do, etc. The beauty in this is that you know how best to cheer her up when she needs you the most: when she finally gets rid of said punk boyfriend. I'm not saying you should let her walk all over you or use you as rebound fodder ~ but be true to yourself and be true to her and you may find yourself the object of her affections too. "It's all about the girl." My story: I was the nice guy and grew up only around girls until about... thirteen? So I had trouble getting across to a girl I was interested in her and not just in being friends with her ~ but that was really fine by me because being friends still meant a lot to me. Anyways I move here to SoCal and became really really close to a friend's girlfriend (Yuka, see pic below . I have an easier time befriending girls than guys ~ so that's what happened. I was just always there whenever she needed me, on/off for over a year. I expected nothing of it, but after Yuka broke up with him, she and I became even closer and that's where we've been for the past four years. Best friends with some serious perks. Nice guys don't always finish last. __________________ -8000K HID low-beams/PIAA Spark 8000 high-beams/PIAA Plasma GT-X corners -Type II brakes/some weight reduction/new tires every 4-6 months -NA1 NSX wheels: Kumho Ecsta SPT 225/50V-16R in front, Kumho Ecsta ASX 205/60V-15R in rear -Custom built six-puck kevlar clutch/Lightened (aluminum) pulleys -[Mugen/Showa] suspension with remote-adjustable dampers -C35A1/C32A1 hybrid swap; smog legal (by GreenLight Auto)

02-15-04, 05:08 PM	#71 (permalink)
Stratoknight Yúgí Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Lakewood WA Posts: 1,736 Car 1: 1991 Black Sedan iTrader: (0)	Robyn - That is a good piece of writing you have there. It makes a lot of sense. About getting into a girls pants. That isn't what I am after. I actually intend to wait until marriage if I have enough will power. Ivan - Lovin' those analogies. I still don't agree 100% with what you say but its good stuff. FF Drifter - You've got valid points. I do feel alone often but I do enjoy that I don't have another commitment. Lets hope I am lucky as you:p __________________ Miss Greek in support of Fred Hutching Cancer Research Center University of Washington Delts Stage6 Acura Legend Channel

02-16-04, 12:05 AM	#73 (permalink)
EvilPrincess22 Registered User Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Canada Posts: 179 Car 1: 1991 Black LS coupe iTrader: (0)	Strato.... I understand where your coming from. You mentioned earlier in this thread how you see a girl,, then you like her, then time goes by and you find someone else to like. personally Id take that as a sign more than a problem cycle. If she cant hold your attention, you're better off without her. You also mentioned about how you're looking for a "clean livin girl". There arent too many left if your looking for someone who doesnt touch a drink or smoke, party etc. Perhaps you should think of envolving yourself in activities or going places that support that kinda life style. Example, if you're looking for someone whos fit, join a gym. Know what I mean? It sounds to me that you're looking for someone very special and unique that doesnt conform to the normal social standards and trends of today....not that there is anything wrong with people who do. Its just harder to find. I know one thing...this person will come when you least expect it. And from my experience, they never show up when you're thinking about it or concentrating on it. Live your life and focus on other details right now. Everything else will just fall into place. For instance, when I fitness train people I tell them not to focus on their body fat or their image more so then on what they can do to make themselves healthier. Dont eat that cheeseburger because of the saturated fat thats going to clog their arteries...rather than focusing on the 50-60 grams of fat in it that might go to their butt. Soon they find themselves more concerned about getting their daily intake of vitamins and minerals and eating to fuel the body....before they know it they've lost 10lbs or more. They failed at their previous attempts of weight loss because they focused on their weight/image which led them to feel depressed and end up binging on junk food...this only sabotoged any hard work and honest effort, warping their views on health and fitness. Its just changing your perspective. It doesnt change the result. It only changes your attitude towards how to get the result. I know the time of the year doesnt help much. However, I used to feel the way you do. But then I made a conscious decision to become one of those people who focus on my life, my career etc. The things I CAN control. Im 22 and just spent my first Valentines NOT single! I think back to the previous years and how sad and depressed I got about the holiday...Infact I cursed it to the ground and thought it was so stupid and commercial. But that just made my first valentines that much more special...and I will NEVER forget it. Not to mention I spent it with someone who is all I've ever dreamed of and showed up in my life unexpectedly. Just remember: Special people are hard to find but thats what make them so special. __________________ http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e2...macyChick1.jpg

02-19-04, 12:44 AM	#74 (permalink)
kingsnakelegend Registered User Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Chicago Posts: 276 Car 1: 1991 L Sedan Gold Edition iTrader: (0)	Getting girls is like trying to merge into traffic. Find an opening, signal, then make your move. Make sure you signal, or else you'll cause an accident. If there's no space to get in, you just gotta be the asshole sometimes and force one open. I mean, we drive legends after all, put that C32 to good use. If that other car doesn't let you in, then you let it pass you up and wait for another opportunity to merge. Check the blind spot too, make sure you're clear. I don't know if I'm making any sense, but I've been traveling on the same path for such a long time. Every time I try to change lanes and merge, I get blocked off and end up back where I am. I guess I'll just cruise along until I find someone. The chick in my sig is what's got me all torn up inside. __________________ http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2...egend2/sig.jpg

02-19-04, 01:39 AM	#75 (permalink)
johndftc LlVlNG LEGEND Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Littleton, CO Posts: 1,633 Car 1: 1994 L Sedan iTrader: (0)	Wow there a lot of good/smart/honest posts in this thread. I used to be that "nice guy" that kept getting walked over until one day my "best friend" hooked up with this girl i liked. that changed my entire outlook on life. I started not caring about trying to please anyone, and ended up becoming a much happier person. Plus Girls started coming to me! like its been stated a million times, just stand up for yourself and be yourself. If a girl doesn't like you, f it. shes not meant for you and you wouldnt be happy with her. But I have to add something in this issue. Guys that are your friends and become "whipped." For instance, There were about 5 of us hanging out at my buddy's house playin pool and watching the avalanche game, drinkin a fe beers and what not. just havin fun you know? well one of the guys that lived there was like "uuhhhh i got a headache, i'm gonna go to the store and get some advil" we had tylenol and advil there, but he still insisted on going to "the store". Well sure enough he calls 10 minute later "sorry guys i stopped by gf's to get a 'neck rub". ditching us AND he was my ride home that night since i was drinking. Man we let him have it. We have all been his friends for years and night after night, he just blows us off to go be attached at the hip to this damn girl. I'm not biased either, because i got a gf too. We love each other, and dont' need to blow off our friends to feel better about ourselves. I just dont see why lifelong friends get tossed aside to do whatever your girlfirend says.

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