First Ever teins on G2 Legend - Page 4

misdeismo · 10-21-06, 12:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Dv8

Tein has the TSX Basic coilovers set at 10/559 6/33 spring rate. would you go softer or harder if you had the opportunity? I know its subjective and all that but, im looking for 60/40 comfort/performance. Im looking to get the adjustability of the shock to make it 50/50.

What do you say?

~Dv8

I think that those spring rates (TSX basics) are fine for the comfort/performance you are looking for. With a good adjustable damper you should be able to dial the suspension in to suit your style. I dont get complaints from passengers and I personally never felt uncomfortable with them on. I think the key is in the damper adjustability though. For performance, I would have gotten higher spring rates, but mostly an adjustable damper would have been a greater help to me. For comfort, I wouldn't change a thing.

misdeismo · 10-21-06, 01:01 AM

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Originally Posted by mrkeith

If KSport would mirror Tein's spring rates by default,
they would potentially satisfy more buyers, as Tien's appeal
greatly to the general enthusiast.

Those who entertain a custom spring rate
should have the option to specify stiffer or smoother.

k.

yes you are correct. well since i commented earlier that my comfort/performance ratio was 45/55 with the teins, I would suggest a spring rate of 8/5 with the dampers set on about 40% of their overall adjustability. this is a rough estimate based on how the tein basics are designed.

**Mike Diaz** · 11-09-06, 08:35 PM

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Originally Posted by misdeismo

Yes, I have switched over to the Accord forks which hold the shocks securely even when the car is lifted completely off the wheels. As for the brakelines, yes they are not secured at the lower shock mount but I dont think there would be any wear on the line being that they are rubber (could be wrong), they are not tangled nor is there any threat of that happening. I will ziptie the lines to the shock body or fork for peice of mind though. Right know that is the only major issue in my eyes.

I definitely would not recommend this modification YET as there are still some unknowns such as wear on the other suspension components and such. But for NOW they are holding up and if they make it till october (1 year mark) I would consider it a worthwhile attempt, although I wouldn't do it again. If they last 36,000 miles or 2-3 years consider me sold

.

If anything major happens, I'll let you guys know.

Update on condition? It's November

Volk Racing · 05-15-07, 11:47 PM

The fork not holding the shock body securely is not good.
I bet that's the reason for the noise that it was making.

When you go over a bump, and back down, the wheel probably drops faster than the shock can extend due to the shock doing it's job trying to slow down the extension of the spring. This process is equivalent to jacking up your car and letting the shock body clunk loosely in the fork.

If you go over a big bump pretty fast, the wheel might drop so much faster than the damper can extend, I bet the fork and the shock will separate since it's held on loosely.

Also, even if it doesn't completely separate, each time you go over a bump, it creates an "impact" on the shock/fork and might ruin both components in the future after so many bangs.

Just my theory.

misdeismo · 05-21-07, 02:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Volk Racing

The fork not holding the shock body securely is not good.
I bet that's the reason for the noise that it was making.

When I first go the kit, the shock would only move when the car was fully jacked, in all other conditions the weight of the car held the shocks in place. However, I changed to the TSX forks about a month after getting the suspension. Probably doesn't make a difference now that the Ksports are out but my suspension is still functioning perfectly. I have gotten so used to them that they feel really comfortable now.

This has been a good investment but I need dampers that are stiffer now since I have gotten used to these. These will be re-valved and used as a back up once I get my upgraded suspension (not Ksports). Not even sure if it makes sense to have a spare suspension but anyway.....

Honestly though, there is no reason to get these anymore with the Ksports being out. With the investment in the coilovers and the TSX forks, the price comes out to around that of the Ksports.

93gold_legend · 05-22-07, 12:09 PM

would it be risky to put teins on a sedan?

badintentions · 05-23-07, 12:02 AM

since coupes and sedans use the same shocks than no it wont be risky but why when there are k sports for legend now

misdeismo · 05-23-07, 11:25 PM

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Originally Posted by badintentions

since coupes and sedans use the same shocks than no it wont be risky but why when there are k sports for legend now

I agree the only advantage would be... wait there is none

.
Seriously though, if you could get the kit and everything required to make it fit safely (ie TSX forks) and be at least $200 cheaper than maybe it would be worth it.

The phase of testing alternate coilovers has come to an end with the release of the ksports. i'm keeping my teins though and going for something else later on.

Volk Racing · 05-24-07, 12:15 AM

Does anyone know if TSX oem struts are shorter than Legend struts?

All I want is shorter struts for the fronts, and don't want to spend $$$ for an entire set of coilovers if I just want shorter fronts.

badintentions · 05-24-07, 08:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Volk Racing

Does anyone know if TSX oem struts are shorter than Legend struts?

All I want is shorter struts for the fronts, and don't want to spend $$$ for an entire set of coilovers if I just want shorter fronts.

ksports and tein basics are about the same price as aftermarket shocks and springs.

Volk Racing · 05-24-07, 09:36 AM

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Originally Posted by badintentions

ksports and tein basics are about the same price as aftermarket shocks and springs.

Yea, but all I want is shorter front struts. Why should I spend $750 on a full set, when I only need something that can cost me only $250?

badintentions · 05-24-07, 10:29 AM

cause i dont think you can use legend springs on tsx/accord shocks.

Volk Racing · 05-24-07, 12:45 PM

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Originally Posted by badintentions

cause i dont think you can use legend springs on tsx/accord shocks.

oh. sad

Ken · 10-18-07, 02:43 AM

if you're goin to use the accord coilover set up, why not use the 01-03 cl-s coilover set up

05-15-07, 11:47 PM	#49 (permalink)
Volk Racing Moderator Join Date: May 2003 Location: here Posts: 2,855 Car 1: Legend GS Car 2: Yamaha YZF iTrader: (2)	The fork not holding the shock body securely is not good. I bet that's the reason for the noise that it was making. When you go over a bump, and back down, the wheel probably drops faster than the shock can extend due to the shock doing it's job trying to slow down the extension of the spring. This process is equivalent to jacking up your car and letting the shock body clunk loosely in the fork. If you go over a big bump pretty fast, the wheel might drop so much faster than the damper can extend, I bet the fork and the shock will separate since it's held on loosely. Also, even if it doesn't completely separate, each time you go over a bump, it creates an "impact" on the shock/fork and might ruin both components in the future after so many bangs. Just my theory. __________________ 1994 GS (18 X 8.0, 18 X 9.0) B===D~(\|)

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93gold_legend Ganja smokes Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: kansas Posts: 741 Car 1: 93 champagne Sedan iTrader: (0)	would it be risky to put teins on a sedan? __________________ http://img201.imageshack.us/img201/861/sigg22qu0.jpg

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badintentions Registered User Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Deltona/miami, FL Posts: 1,138 Car 1: 1994 gold Legend 6spd 2dr. Car 2: 1956 mg td-sold Car 3: 03 RC51 iTrader: (4)	since coupes and sedans use the same shocks than no it wont be risky but why when there are k sports for legend now __________________ 94 l gold 6 spd (sold) -Ranger Joe CAI -obx headers -polished intake manifold -Bayou stage II -FUT's lower tie bar brace -Magnaflow exhaust -MLS strut bar -5spd clutch and flywheel -Ksport coilovers -Addco rear sway -17" Arospeed rs-gt 94 l sedan 5spd.(totaled) SAY NO TO THE COMB OVER 08'

05-24-07, 12:15 AM	#54 (permalink)
Volk Racing Moderator Join Date: May 2003 Location: here Posts: 2,855 Car 1: Legend GS Car 2: Yamaha YZF iTrader: (2)	Does anyone know if TSX oem struts are shorter than Legend struts? All I want is shorter struts for the fronts, and don't want to spend $$$ for an entire set of coilovers if I just want shorter fronts. __________________ 1994 GS (18 X 8.0, 18 X 9.0) B===D~(\|)

05-24-07, 10:29 AM	#57 (permalink)
badintentions Registered User Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Deltona/miami, FL Posts: 1,138 Car 1: 1994 gold Legend 6spd 2dr. Car 2: 1956 mg td-sold Car 3: 03 RC51 iTrader: (4)	cause i dont think you can use legend springs on tsx/accord shocks. __________________ 94 l gold 6 spd (sold) -Ranger Joe CAI -obx headers -polished intake manifold -Bayou stage II -FUT's lower tie bar brace -Magnaflow exhaust -MLS strut bar -5spd clutch and flywheel -Ksport coilovers -Addco rear sway -17" Arospeed rs-gt 94 l sedan 5spd.(totaled) SAY NO TO THE COMB OVER 08'

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10-18-07, 02:43 AM	#59 (permalink)
Ken aka desired_speeds Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: The Hella Part of Cali Posts: 7,829 Car 1: 91 Legend LS - soon to be manual Car 2: 91 Legend L - parts Car 3: 96 Honda Saber 32v iTrader: (2)	if you're goin to use the accord coilover set up, why not use the 01-03 cl-s coilover set up __________________ . k e n Parting out a 91 L 5-speed, let me know if you need any parts besides engine and 5-speed parts. The car is Rosewood brown with type E cloth interior.

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